Big D*ck Inferiority Complex

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
And yet I know a beautiful, high-earning 23-year-old girl who just became engaged to a broke ass, underweight, dorky 24-year-old PhD candidate she met in college. How did Da Game miss them?

Edit: high earning relative to her age, that is. [/quote]
well he has two things confirmed to be going for him (potentially three)[/quote]

My guesses

  1. He is an honest, caring dude

  2. massive, massive penis

  3. career/goal focused, committed/able to commit[/quote]

  4. Yes, and she is the same.

  5. No idea!

  6. Yes, and also true of her

They are also both a lot of fun. It’s true that nice things happen to nice people.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
And yet I know a beautiful, high-earning 23-year-old girl who just became engaged to a broke ass, underweight, dorky 24-year-old PhD candidate she met in college. How did Da Game miss them?

Edit: high earning relative to her age, that is. [/quote]
well he has two things confirmed to be going for him (potentially three)[/quote]

My guesses

  1. He is an honest, caring dude

  2. massive, massive penis

  3. career/goal focused, committed/able to commit[/quote]

  4. Yes, and she is the same.

  5. No idea!

  6. Yes, and also true of her

They are also both a lot of fun. It’s true that nice things happen to nice people.

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Yeah, relationships that work tend to have a couple fairly simple things in common. The massive penis part was a joke, for the most part. But you can pretty much nail any relationship that works down to a few key aspects, and people willing to work at them.

It isn’t rocket science. It is rather simple, not easy by any means, but simple just the same.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
And yet I know a beautiful, high-earning 23-year-old girl who just became engaged to a broke ass, underweight, dorky 24-year-old PhD candidate she met in college. How did Da Game miss them?

Edit: high earning relative to her age, that is. [/quote]

I still no more about bedding women in this day and age than you, because I try to and you dont. [/quote]

If I did try I am certain that I’d make a better job of it than you have!

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
They are also both a lot of fun. It’s true that nice things happen to nice people.
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Nice things can happen to nice people.

[quote]nephorm wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
They are also both a lot of fun. It’s true that nice things happen to nice people.
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Nice things can happen to nice people.[/quote]

Yes. Terrible, unbearable things can also happen to nice people.

I do think that the odds of nice things happening, at least nice things of this sort, are more likely for nice people.

On the other hand, maybe this nice young couple is being set up to take some sort of cosmic fall. I hope not.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
And yet I know a beautiful, high-earning 23-year-old girl who just became engaged to a broke ass, underweight, dorky 24-year-old PhD candidate she met in college. How did Da Game miss them?

Edit: high earning relative to her age, that is. [/quote]

PhD candidate = chance to be pretty Alpha in the right social setting

He could be quite confident and dominant with her as well. There’s more to it than just ā€œhe’s skinny and has no money,ā€ especially considering that she’s only 23.

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
And yet I know a beautiful, high-earning 23-year-old girl who just became engaged to a broke ass, underweight, dorky 24-year-old PhD candidate she met in college. How did Da Game miss them?

Edit: high earning relative to her age, that is. [/quote]

PhD candidate = chance to be pretty Alpha in the right social setting

He could be quite confident and dominant with her as well. There’s more to it than just ā€œhe’s skinny and has no money,ā€ especially considering that she’s only 23.[/quote]

Yes indeed! That he’s got sexy qualities is my working assumption, along with that she has the depth to appreciate them. He’s in economics, but not the kind that will likely bring power and money. She’ll probably out earn him if she continues on her current course.

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I’m not your mom, orion, charming though I’m sure she must be. I don’t get by on the chivalry of another era, I pay my own way on dates and limit myself to ongoing involvement with the ones who shine with decency. I’d like to think they’re undergoing the same evaluative process with me.

And P.S. If anything my SMV has risen since my teens and early twenties. The embittered ā€œpro-maleā€ writings are - my god, what a surprise - not necessarily accurate outside of the context of the meat market, where aging people, both men and women, are highly suspect. And for good reason. If by the time you hit your mid twenties you’re still behaving in any realm of functioning as you did at age eighteen, there is something wrong with you.[/quote]

No, you are not my Mom, but you are years older than me.

Meaning, you do not get why in the late 80s, early 90s, Da Game developed.

You are pretty much 5 years too old.

You understand, I tried to play it the way you think it should be played and what I got out of it was this:

ā€œYou are like a brother to me, quasi asexualā€

ā€œWell, it was nice so far, but now I no longer need youā€ —that was me being a Beta orbiter , providing emotional intimacy until she got someone to fuck her for realz.

ā€œOhh, right now you might not be too interesting but by the time women will look for a RELATIONSHIPā€¦ā€

All of this I heard.

All of this I got by playing by the rules you apparently still seem to live by.

WHAT THE FUCK IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE FACT THAT THESE REFORMED SLUTS ARE NOT, NOT, AND I REPEAT NOT, Q U A L I T Y, WOMEN!?!

You want me to forget what I have seen and wife them up?

Iz I crazy?

They would want me for the exact same qualities they rejected me for not so long ago, and the expect me to pay a high price for what they gave away for a smike in their prime.

Fuck them, no?
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One can only conclude that you shop in the wrong stores.[/quote]

With all due respeczt. fuck you, I shopped in the most exlusive stores.

Turns out, they churn out the same merchandise as anyone else. [/quote]

Serious question: Have you had much experience with women outside your own culture / country?

As for fucking me, well, you’ll have to fight my wife for that privilege.

My money is on her.[/quote]

Yeah, she would but only because she would be more motivated.

I am being optimistic here.

To your other question, it seems like it sinks in that the women I have to deal with are broken?

Am I to wife up the lady of the thousand cocks?

Am I to wife up some gal that practiced rotating polyandry, I am sorry, serial monogamy, demonstrating over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again that at the first sign of relationship trouble that little dopamine junky will bail?

With marriage laws as they are?

Iz I demented?

Haz I been lobotomized while I was not looking?

Haz I lost any amount of self respect, pride, basic instincts of self preservation?

If it finally REALLY sinks in that women around here are trash I am gonna import some girl that knows hoe it was meant to be played or I am going to leave this trash heap of a country and live like a king on a pittance somewhere where men are valued.

People can call me a loser who could not cut it here all they want, because the reality is I have no desire to cut it here at all, even though I do make more than 90% of those overpaying for pussy manginas.

If you would like to know what I REALLY think, please ask.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
And yet I know a beautiful, high-earning 23-year-old girl who just became engaged to a broke ass, underweight, dorky 24-year-old PhD candidate she met in college. How did Da Game miss them?

Edit: high earning relative to her age, that is. [/quote]

I still no more about bedding women in this day and age than you, because I try to and you dont. [/quote]

If I did try I am certain that I’d make a better job of it than you have![/quote]

Interestingly enough, there is a book out from a lesbian woman who lived a year as a man and what she reported was this:

Not only were average working class American men not the racist, misogynist monsters she imagined, oh no, she was suprised at the haughty arrogance heterosexual women displayed while dating what they believed to be a heterosexual man.

I dare you to try, please report back to us.

And good luck, you are going to need it.

Though skin too…

For these women, men as a subspecies - not the particular men with whom they had been involved - were to blame for the wreck of a relationship and the psychic damage it had done them. It’s hardly surprising, then, that in this atmosphere, as a single man dating women, I often felt attacked, judged, on the defensive.

Many of my dates - even the more passive ones - did most of the talking. I listened to them talk literally for hours about the most minute, mind-numbing details of their personal lives; men they were still in love with, men they had divorced, roommates and co-workers they hated, childhoods they were loath to remember yet somehow found the energy to recount ad nauseam. Listening to them was like undergoing a slow frontal lobotomy.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Yes. Terrible, unbearable things can also happen to nice people.

I do think that the odds of nice things happening, at least nice things of this sort, are more likely for nice people.

On the other hand, maybe this nice young couple is being set up to take some sort of cosmic fall. I hope not.[/quote]

The general question is older than Socratic philosophy.

For the specific question of attraction, I don’t think being ā€œniceā€ has much to do with anything, to be honest, except in rare and extreme cases.

My point is just that concentrating on the ā€œniceā€ quality isn’t helpful, other than to rebut the extreme view that being a decent human being precludes a man from attracting women.

[quote]nephorm wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Yes. Terrible, unbearable things can also happen to nice people.

I do think that the odds of nice things happening, at least nice things of this sort, are more likely for nice people.

On the other hand, maybe this nice young couple is being set up to take some sort of cosmic fall. I hope not.[/quote]

The general question is older than Socratic philosophy.

For the specific question of attraction, I don’t think being ā€œniceā€ has much to do with anything, to be honest, except in rare and extreme cases.

My point is just that concentrating on the ā€œniceā€ quality isn’t helpful, other than to rebut the extreme view that being a decent human being precludes a man from attracting women.[/quote]

Look, you cannot outbeta your alpha.

That is the reason so many guys go for utter asshole game, because they have no discernable qualities they could outalpha.

Lowest common denominator really.

If that is any consolation, you cannot land even a semi decent woman that way, the ones you can deserve it.

You can be really, really, really nice, but it better be a velvet glove over a fist of steel.

Or, to put it another way, your pimp hand better be strong.

First one to insinuate that I propose violence against women is a mangina.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
And yet I know a beautiful, high-earning 23-year-old girl who just became engaged to a broke ass, underweight, dorky 24-year-old PhD candidate she met in college. How did Da Game miss them?

Edit: high earning relative to her age, that is. [/quote]

I still no more about bedding women in this day and age than you, because I try to and you dont. [/quote]

If I did try I am certain that I’d make a better job of it than you have![/quote]

Interestingly enough, there is a book out from a lesbian woman who lived a year as a man and what she reported was this:

Not only were average working class American men not the racist, misogynist monsters she imagined, oh no…[/quote]

Hmm. Sounds like a nice, level girl, there. WHAT?! ALL MEN ARE NOT DISGUSTING PIGS?! THE HELL YOU SAY!!

I mean, do we take her seriously? Or do we garner from the above that she’s an asshole who makes sweeping asshole assumptions about people? Because frankly, I’m not sure how either insulated, misguided, or just plain nasty you have to be to be surprised that the average working class American man is not a racist, misogynist monster. WHO KNEW.

I mean really, orion. Seriously? Why does everyone have to be categorized as all good or all bad?

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
And yet I know a beautiful, high-earning 23-year-old girl who just became engaged to a broke ass, underweight, dorky 24-year-old PhD candidate she met in college. How did Da Game miss them?

Edit: high earning relative to her age, that is. [/quote]

I still no more about bedding women in this day and age than you, because I try to and you dont. [/quote]

If I did try I am certain that I’d make a better job of it than you have![/quote]

Interestingly enough, there is a book out from a lesbian woman who lived a year as a man and what she reported was this:

Not only were average working class American men not the racist, misogynist monsters she imagined, oh no…[/quote]

Hmm. Sounds like a nice, level girl, there. WHAT?! ALL MEN ARE NOT DISGUSTING PIGS?! THE HELL YOU SAY!!

I mean, do we take her seriously? Or do we garner from the above that she’s an asshole who makes sweeping asshole assumptions about people? Because frankly, I’m not sure how either insulated, misguided, or just plain nasty you have to be to be surprised that the average working class American man is not a racist, misogynist monster. WHO KNEW.

I mean really, orion. Seriously? Why does everyone have to be categorized as all good or all bad?
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Read her book, she was genuinely surprised.

Am I to defend her preconceived notions?

Got to say though, I liked it because it was genuinely fair.

Seriously, a lesbian woman trying to find out what it is like to be a man and she does not arrive with a clusterfuck of conclusions, she tells it like it is, the good, the bad and the ugly.

Such an unbiased view is rare and welcome these days.

[quote]orion wrote:
Got to say though, I liked it because it was genuinely fair.

Seriously, a lesbian woman trying to find out what it is like to be a man and she does not arrive with a clusterfuck of conclusions, she tells it like it is, the good, the bad and the ugly.

Such an unbiased view is rare and welcome these days. [/quote]

I don’t see how anyone who believed that the average working class American man is a racist, misogynist monster while living among them can be considered unbiased or trustworthy. Stupid and prone to sweeping assumptions, I would say. She doesn’t like the other side no matter which side of the aisle she occupies. But whatever, it confirms your own biases, so rock on.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Got to say though, I liked it because it was genuinely fair.

Seriously, a lesbian woman trying to find out what it is like to be a man and she does not arrive with a clusterfuck of conclusions, she tells it like it is, the good, the bad and the ugly.

Such an unbiased view is rare and welcome these days. [/quote]

I don’t see how anyone who believed that the average working class American man is a racist, misogynist monster while living among them can be considered unbiased or trustworthy. Stupid and prone to sweeping assumptions, I would say. She doesn’t like the other side no matter which side of the aisle she occupies. But whatever, it confirms your own biases, so rock on.

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Oh, that is a commonly held view of the cliterati.

Dumb brutes that need to be educated by their betters.

Plus, you have not read it and yet you have an opinion.

No.