Biden 2021 - A Mediocre Middle Ground

Yes, we have a voter roll.

People registering to vote via the lawful process in State of Maine.

You must at minimum present a utility bill with someone’s name and address on it. It could be your name, that would mean no duplicates. The duplicates you’re thinking of would be someone trying to register twice. That will also not be found because people can have the same name often enough. Who is to say that Bob Smith in Portland is the same or different Bob Smith in New Gloucester?

How could you begin to check something like that without Voter ID?

If Bob Smith tries to register twice in his same jurisdiction at the same address, that would be found and likely questioned. That’s about the only case I can think of where fraud of that sort could be pre-empted by the system in place right now.

His Made in America plan. More jobs in America, for Americans. Less dependence upon China. You’re welcome.

Thanks @zecarlo. If it’s called the Made in America Plan, count me on-board.

Yes it’s the massive problem that is constantly talked about that no one can find evidence of happening at a significant level anywhere. Republicans are assured it happens as they won’t allow themselves to believe any of them could lose. But they can’t find it. So we should make a bunch of changes because of invisible fraud. Maybe not enough to get struck down by supreme courts (again). But if those changes just happen to keep some people from voting that’s not that bad. After all just because you can’t ever find something doesn’t mean you shouldn’t spend a bunch of time and resources fighting it. Even though we already do. And if some people don’t turn out because of those changes that just happen to be people who were more likely to vote for the opposing party? Well that’s just too bad. We were ALWAYS just trying to fight fraud after all.

It’s like they just absolutely can’t believe a really unpopular candidate who won a close election to an extremely disliked politician happened to lose a close election to a politician that wasn’t extremely disliked. The shocker to end all shockers. Anyone could look at Trump’s historical favorability ratings and see he was going to be at risk.

I don’t know why everyone wants to make all these complicated arguments. Trump losing wasn’t even remotely shocking.

Made in America by legions of newly minted Americans streaming into Texas daily.

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The failed Canadian comedian? Yeah, he’s trustworthy. What’s next? We’ll put detective Paris Hilton on the case?

Or someone pretending to be someone else using someone’s stolen mail.

The address is also required. So we should be able to tell the different Bob Smith’s apart.

He election stream had more viewers than any news networks during election night. He’s built his own media outlet and employs dozens of people.

I’m not sure how that’s a failure, but you also thought Candace Owens was stupid for some reason you were never able to explain.

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Only if those jobs don’t require being literate.

Which is sad.

Considering he wanted to be a comedian.

Her lack of education is obvious. She offers nothing that Fox news hasn’t already stated.

Only in the same jurisdiction. If Bob Smith has a camp in Rangely and a house in Portland, he could easily vote twice by presenting the electric bill for both properties.

Are you done arguing that the Maine election system is in any way secure yet? Really now, this is getting kind of ridiculous.

So why doesn’t he?

I’m off to jiu jitsu, @zecarlo. You can argue in circles with someone else while saying absolutely nothing of substance whatsoever.

Remember the first rule of internet arguing. You can never be proved wrong if you never say anything in the first place.

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I used to vote straight GoP. When I voted for them I thought they were better than the DEMs morally, but I saw through the justifications of the antics they pulled to have advantages (I thought they were sort of a good Machiavellian party). IMO, many GoP supporters are similar to how I used to be. Some do in fact believe that things like more election security is needed, but I have a hard time thinking people are blind to the tactics.

A lot of Trump fans with kids or without aren’t going to be denying the Biden bucks coming their way.

But he didn’t put his name on them like Trump. Trump will probably tell Fox News he’s responsible for them and they will believe it since Biden’s signature is on them.

Lots of states have increased minimum wage and changed their marijuana laws lately. Democrat ideas are often popular. Democrat politicians not so much. They have the opposite problem of Republicans on the whole.

No. The problem is you picked a tribe, I haven’t. You want me to argue for what you are against. I think both sides are con artists. You assume that if I think Trump is crap it follows that I must love Biden. That’s why your whatabout arguments are meaningless to me.

Probably because people with multiple properties (or really most people) aren’t willing to go to prison for voter fraud to get one more vote in.

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It’s the preacher effect. Less educated people are more impressed by how you speak rather than what you say.

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It’s amazing how simply making something illegal is enough to keep most people from doing it.

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Another of their problems is that they don’t seem to understand that almost all people who vote are going to vote for the DEM or the GoP candidate. For some damn reason they are off trying to appeal to the far left. It isn’t like the far left is going to vote for Trump. They do risk people staying home, but I think that is not a justifiable fear in comparison to scaring away moderates. That fear (of the far left staying home) didn’t play out with Biden either.

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