Biden 2021 - A Mediocre Middle Ground

I’m not sure I approve of really any restrictions for buying a gun aside from being old enough.

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You do know, that varies by state. In my state you need to take a class in order to apply for a permit. Imagine if that applied to voting and was for every state. You would eliminate almost every voter in Alabama. On the bright side, they couldn’t own guns either.

And if we had New Jersey’s standards for gun ownership, no one could vote.

Ok. But if election fraud is so easy, then why aren’t Republicans taking advantage of that fact? Are we supposed to believe they are above that ?

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe a few were prosecuted for such, so some are definitely trying to do so, even if failing.

Of course not, but it’s a separate question as to whether photo ID requirements at polling booths are bad per se. Northern Ireland is as white as milk and requires it.

The poll is dated, but it seems like a majority of the US supports such measures too.

Is the GOP support for such measures cynical? Sure. But does that make voter ID requirements unjustifiable? Not necessarily.

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Here’s the thing, you still need to prove who you are in order to vote. I don’t know how Americans got this idea that any random person can just walk into any random booth and vote. Then again, I do know: they’re imbeciles.

And all of this fraud talk doesn’t dismiss the questions of why now and, why one side? The supporters can say it’s all about election integrity but that’s just American naïveté, if they really believe that, or straight up lying. Are we really supposed to believe that politicians pushing this don’t have some other motive in mind?

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Because democrats positions are aligned with the position of people that are in power to organize, finance and carry out the election fraud. There is also republicans who are in this fraud.

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And that’s my point, really.

Just how sacred are our rights when it’s not one of our favorites. Right to vote. Right to both keep and bear arms. What if both had the same infringement as the other. As minimal or onerous. Both sides would take pause.

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How is this currently done? Do you provide name and address, or is there a polling card you bring?

The same could be said of the proposals in HR1, correct? Though, given its length, I’d need a few weeks to read the bill to know for sure.

I don’t know enough about voting in the US to have a dog in this fight either way.

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Twelve years ago in Tulsa, wife and l walked into voting place, told our name, and were informed that showing id was not required. Perhaps not random, but pretty lax.

Once you’re registered in Maine the only check is to see if the name you say you are exists on the voter roll in your precinct. Then they cross your name off of the list.

Combined with the stringent requirement of presenting a utility bill to register, this system is so secure I can’t understand why the banking industry doesn’t adopt a similar way of working.

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You can’t pay utility bills online so easily. Why in the world does that need to be at all secure? “Your damn company let this guy pay my bill for me. I’m boycotting your services.” Is this an actual issue for people?

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Goodfellas, her legs, yowza!

I understand your point, but math is a bigger issue with your right to vote than your right to keep and bear arms. Voter fraud infringes on another citizens rights by nullifying their vote. Buying 7 guns vs voting 7 times.
Again, I know what you meant but I felt like adding.

Same in NY. Sign the book when you get there. They dont even verify the signatures.

It is, since no one has proven fraud.

Which would mean, if someone wanted to commit fraud, he would need to know what names are registered and, hope that person doesn’t show up to vote. I can just picture all of those illegals showing up and claiming they’re someone whose name they can’t even pronounce.

I believe you.

Last year 90k arrested in Rio Grande Valley district coming into US illegally.

Already 110k arrested this year in 2 months.

There are several other districts in Texas alone.

Yeah, that doesn’t sound good.

Agree.

I think that the Border has the potential to become Biden’s “Vietnam”.

My only hesitation is that with all of the competent individuals he has in place, that he will approach the problem with the same focus and resolve he has had with Vaccine Distribution and Administration.

Much different problems and issues?

Sure. We’ll see.