Biden 2021 - A Mediocre Middle Ground

We could always turn MLK holiday into the national day that everyone votes.
It would honor King far more than a cookout.

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I feel like the stage is being set for California Uber Alles. Probably not quite the way Jello Biafra imagined, but pretty damn close.

The borders are open but the schools are closed. “Vaccine ID” is being advanced and might be mandatory, but Voter ID is somehow racist and harmful. The cities can burn, street cops can get bricked in the head and livelihoods can be snuffed out on a whim, but the safety of our lawmakers is important enough to immediately deploy two divisions of US soldiers behind fortifications.

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I’ve said numerous times on here it should be a national holiday. If we’re going to do all this stuff to make absentee voting a bitch the least we could do is make your occupation not such an issue for you to vote.

But I will also maintain that if we are going to say that mail in ballots are such a risk (I don’t remember Republicans whining about the 33 million in 2016 when they won all three) let’s eliminate for all no exceptions. Soldiers, disabled, etc. We can’t talk about the risk for fraud and then act like these people couldn’t be fraudulent with it.

But again the crying and fraud screaming came after a loss. It certainly didn’t happen after a win. Nothing for them to want to look into when they win. But lose an election? The only conclusion is a giant cheating scandal.

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I think a national voting holiday has a lot of bipartisan support, and i totally agree making it on MLK day would be a huge and very fitting tribute to the man and what he represented. Good idea. I think i would vote for that. I bet there would be pushback against the election date change despite that seeming to be a very minor issue to me.

That said, a national holiday presents issues with childcare (no school), tens (hundreds?) of millions in lost economic output, and im sure other issues i can think of right now. Also, as a resident of a state with all mail-in voting since 2011, i dont see a reason why i would ever choose to go to a polling station and wait in line on a specific day as opposed to filling out the ballot at home on my own time with the help of the internet to research in real time, and then dropping it off in the mail or at a nearby ballot box.

This would require us to change the date of MLK day is the only issue. Not saying we couldn’t do it or whatever, merely that it would be an issue.

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Why not change the voting day? Its not the end of the world to have a single election cycle be 2.5months longer than usual.

As a general rule, GOP voters have an easier time getting their vote in and/or are more motivated to vote. Thats why most (if not all) “get out the vote” campaigns are done by and for democratic organizations. When more people vote, it favors the democratic party. An unmotivated electorate as a whole will favor the republican party as their voters will be there voting regardless and the democratic voters will be the ones who dont bother voting.

Because Americans need to go back and forth and commerce needs to go back and forth. Hmmmm, seems like the borders have been open ever since we’ve had borders.

And whom do we have to thank for that?

Right, of course, the expected explosion of commerce under Biden is why our border agencies are suddenly overwhelmed.

I suppose we need to thank the wise leaders who responded to the Capitol storming with a completely appropriate deployment of thousands of troops and armed fortifications. The safety of our betters is at sake, after all.

I wonder, how many more thousands dead in a place like Chicago would necessitate such a response? We’re well over 40,000 dead citizens since the Democrats have been in control of that jurisdiction, with many times that number left with life-altering injuries from violent criminals.

#defundthepolice for thee, but not for me!

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Or Trump could have behaved like a man for once.

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I think requiring you to mail in a copy of your ID when you mail in your ballot would alleviate a lot of the concerns with mail-in voting. I’d even be willing to accept ballots being mailed proactively to everyone if that one minor effort was required to actually vote.

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This is all a solution looking for a problem. Prove the fraud, and thus the need, for stricter measures.

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Why not just make the process more secure up front? I’m sure they put protections on electronic voting machines before there was any evidence one had been hacked.

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Why now?

The question is, are we making it more secure (in spite of no need) or just making it less accessible to a certain population?

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Is it any wonder that democrats think of process security in the complete and total opposite way a successful private business does?

It’s almost like they want the process to be as insecure as the public will let them get away with…

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Agreed. It should have been required long ago.

IDs are available to the entire population.

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But no one has proven that security is an issue. Successful businesses also deal with reality and not imaginary problems.

But yet, it isn’t insecure.

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Why wasn’t it?

You are very, very wrong about that. We imagine all kinds of ways that things can go wrong and actively seek to prevent those outcomes. We restrict people’s ability to do all kinds of things not because they have, but because they might. This applies to both information and financial security measures.

Advocating for business process security with the same line of thought as a democrat advocating for election “security” would get you fired on the spot.

Because Democrats fight tooth and nail against any and all voter ID laws. They know not having to prove citizenship benefits them.