Sure, we are talking about proportionality though.
Racist policies, and those that support them should piss you off.
What about those people that think you can’t be racist against white people?
That idea pisses me off. Depending on the situation, I may engage in conversation with someone proclaiming such nonsense. A quick google dictionary search on “racism” would win me that argument (although they probably wouldn’t accept it).
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Its a disturbing trend. Whilst the idea seems to come from a small number of activists from other races, most of the biggest proponents of the idea are young white people, brainwashed by Marxist ideology.
I would hope since it is nonsensical, that it would disappear, but I think that is too optimistic.
It seems that the hope that access to information would kill off stupid ideas hasn’t come to fruition. I don’t necessarily think people are more stupid than previously. They just have a platform now.
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It just ignores the purpose of the move though. It’s writing voting rules to maintain/obtain power. It’s not even so much about does this policy screw minorities or not. I don’t think the intent of many of these laws comes from white supremacy or anything. It comes from trying to obtain/maintain power by tweaking election rules to win. If making it less likely for black people to vote helps you then of course it’s worth doing from a Machiavellian sense. And it’s nothing special about black people at this moment in time really. The GOP wouldn’t aim at them if they were GOP voters. It’s also not just limited to that. What are the ways in which our opponent turned out and can we do anything to limit that?
It’s certainly a problem with both parties wouldn’t argue that it isn’t. But the GOP under the false guise of a “stolen” election which they know is bullshit are about to try and “fix” their voting laws. Except it won’t be about finding widespread fraud (which they never do despite insisting it’s undeniable) it will be about small tweaks that they think is going to lower turnout from their opponents.
Hell I don’t even blame them, they are doing what parties do but acting like all the stuff over the last decades are just innocent things in the name of election security requires you to have your head so far up the ass of a party that it’s a miracle one can breathe.
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Great speech, but we’re back to the same circular logic. The narrative says modern republicans and the policies they advance are racist. How do we know this? The narrative informs us so.
Look, I’m fully aware of some gerrymandering and voting laws that can be broadly labeled “racist” with room for valid argument, but I’m also fully aware of many, many other things labeled as “racist” that simply are not so. The issue I’ve been hammering here is that broad accusations of racism have no place in an arena of ideas like this, let alone society. It is deeply destructive, divisive and even confusing for people who are otherwise good-intentioned but may not have the time, energy, capability or interest in understanding these issues in any depth.
Show me the racists. We can denounce them together.
Edit: To further reinforce my point, after asking for the best example of Republican racism at any level of government, it took dozens of posts to arrive at the most specific example of page 14 of a bill concerning early and absentee voting in Georgia that was racist because of an unsupported notion that black people would be disenfranchised if not allowed to vote early or absentee on Sundays. That’s the best I could understand the argument, at least.
C’mon. Can anyone do better than that?
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On another topic, this is so weird - pay-to-participate in LARPing of communism.
Do you want to experience daily life under a communist - I mean, officially socialist transitioning to communism - society? Of course, without the really off putting stuff like brutalist architecture, standing in lines or scarcity of every imaginable retail product.
All the trappings of communism in daily life are present, only set in material opulence - fear of public denunciations, public shaming and associated social stigma of one’s background (of course it’s about race not class, the latter would be dangerous) and the ever-evolving byzantine language only the elite caste is fluent in.
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That was a good read.
The only reason I can speak up is that I’m not easily cancelled in real life. My worst-case scenario is the unlikely loss of my job, should someone find something I’ve written or said to be “problematic”. I could recover from that easily enough. At this stage of life I’ve got plenty of earning options and fewer responsibilities.
Given the ease with which people toss around serious accusations like racism, this is becoming increasingly concerning. Not so much for me, but for my son and what it means for his future. When mainstream, race-neutral conservative policies or anything to the right of Mao can get dismissed as “racist” and then accepted as such without evidence, we as a society are in some really deep shit.
Like we are, right now.
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Apparently this is in your mind.
You seem to think so.
I don’t believe much of this started as a pure racism thing, but that does seem to be what you want to talk about now.
That was not the best example it was the one I was already talking about. You may not view it as a racist policy but I do. I actually think it’s intention isn’t even about race as much as it is about suppression. But we’ve long past beat that up.
I dunno you seem bothered by this going into a race debate and yet came in here with “Biden’s saying the N word” and then wanted to talk about nothing else but race?
I’m not the one who drew the entire conversation to race with accusations of racism. If you read past the first sentence or two of a post you can see that my first post was a commentary on the on–going topic of the thread, which was the inevitability of President Harris, likely sooner rather than later.
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Ummm… send your kid to a different school? But the parents wont. Why? Because they don’t actually think its that bad, and think the education and friend network is worth it. But that certainly wont stop them from gossiping in their little clandestine cocktail club, and who could resist seeing their gossip in actual print in a real magazine!
Basically, Im sure there’s some truth to what they are saying, but either they are AWFUL parents for having so many resources available to them and not removing their children from the school, or its not actually that bad and they just really wanted to get their juicy gossip scoop printed.
Thats my take on it anways. Stinks to high heaven of rich LA/NYC socialite parents acting like rich LA/NYC socialites.
I’m not sure who you think did that (I’m assuming Mufasa) but one thing seems certain to me if you didn’t draw the entire conversation to race…you’re determined right now in here to talk about nothing else. Which is fine I mean it’s not like topics on here don’t ebb and flow as always on this forum.
In other words, when someone says I support Jim Crow Laws or you come in and make broad statements alleging racism and/or racist policies without backing it up, I should just leave it alone and move on?
Didnt you and mufasa kiss and makeup up-thread and promise to move on?
Sure, and we have.
I’m responding to the ongoing discussion.
Especially since the effects of indoctrination will only be visible in ten years’ time.
I recently attended a virtual extended family reunion via Zoom. One of my first cousin’s children is a senior at a prestigious West Coast school like the ones from the article. She spoke in wokeish and after the initial shock me and me siblings in realized it’s simplified Marxism we were taught as kids. After me successfully mentally mapped class-to-race vocabulary we even managed to hold wokeish conversation with her as a joke, only for her to commend us afterwards with a straight face. I mean, as much as you can commend middle-aged white people who are personally (and simultaneously) responsible for the genocide of Native Americans, the Transatlantic slave trade and the inhumane treatment of Palestinians.
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I’m not suggesting that but it seems you’re wanting to start each new day in here with “remember when Mufasa said this to me?!”
I mean you can talk about it every day until the end of time it’s not like it’s ban worthy or something. You do you. I just think it seems like you continue to be really worked up about it and insistent that all continue to pound the racist debate stemming from that start for the second or third day in a row.
I can stand by my own words and you can represent them however you like.
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