Biden 2021 - A Mediocre Middle Ground

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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@Mufasa I’m not sure which is a sadder state of affairs. The idea that direct, unambiguous Jim Crow comparisons don’t imply racism to you or your unwillingness to back up your own words.

It is a troubling reflection of our time when racist accusations get tossed around so casually that the people making them don’t see any problem whatsoever.

Even after dozens of posts asking “where’s the racism?” that go absolutely nowhere you guys still play dumb and pretend like you never even implied that anyone or anything is racist.

You could own your words for once but the minute someone calls you out you weasel away like always.

Of course this is nothing new. Calling anyone and everything “racist” and badgering anyone who calls that into question is the modus operandi of modern leftists and the useful idiots who are giving them more and more power.

Remember when you started an entire thread about it?

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So, @twojarslave;

Are you calling me a Leftist, weasel and a useful idiot?

Then I guess we are even. Move on.

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@Mufasa Yes. I am.

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Good!

Now that you got it out of your system, move on.

Please…

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I’m fine with that. The record is there and I’ve said what I had to say.

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I don’t know what individual Republicans think when it comes to race. I would assume some are racist just as some Democrats are racist. What I will say is that when you put the party’s survival above citizens’ rights, and when those citizens happen to be black, it does make you question their position on race. If you can accept that the collateral damage of your policies affects black Americans more than white Americans then how do you defend that as being not racist? People can talk about intent but there is intent without awareness and intent with awareness.

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I don’t think this was ever refuted. If a party is taking an action to win, but the action is also racist (and it is known by the party) , they should change course (if they don’t, then they are doing racist actions).

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Outstanding, @zecarlo.

You explain these issues much better than I do.

I tend to get too pissed off.

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If you convict violent criminals and that disproportionately affects a certain race more…

Is what’s happening in Chicago due to racism? Seems like generations of bad policies affecting one group more.

Anyways, what a mess.

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One is justified by trying to win power, the other justified to keep society safe. I suppose those two justifications are equal, right?

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You have to have power first to keep society someone’s idea of safe.

But, I was testing the underlying principle of policy affecting one group more than another.

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But it was a poor test, as the example you brought up has different variables at play compared to the subject at hand.

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There were no caveats.

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Further, is it then racist to enact policy that positively impacts a race more than another?

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I gave the example of lowering the voting power of black people in order to win power. The last part is the justification for the action which isn’t ethical IMO.

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Alright. Good talk.

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Does the crime also disproportionately affect them more? Meaning, if you don’t deal with criminals who prey on black people then are you not saying that blacks are less worthy of protection from the justice system? Looking the other way because the criminal is black means looking the other way when the victim is black.

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Are Republicans pushing something that does that?

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Yes.

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Doesn’t that “lower” the voting power of white people there as well?

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