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Butt Gigg
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This fella is useless
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Arent electric cars like twice more expensive than hybrids for example? I just ordered a brand new corolla hybrid and it is 2.5 times cheaper than the cheapest Tesla. The non hybrid corolla is exactly 3 times cheaper than the chepeast tesla.
It depends. There are more and less affordable electric cars. Tesla is a luxury brand, you cannot compare and hence, apples to oranges. The Nissan Leaf is way cheaper than a Tesla. It’s a piece if shit too, but that’s beside the point. But no electric cars are cheap by any measure. The battery packs alone are extremely expensive to make, very heavy and require the use of exotic materials in relatively short supply. I believe the cheapest electric car is the Leaf and it starts around $40K… starts. So your starting point for a bare bones electric is $40K.
Mayor Buttgage, what an asshole. They literally populated these governement positions with friends and allies and focused on “diversity” instead of competence and it shows. They acted like these positions are incidental and things just work themselves out. In reality these jobs are complicated and require knowledge and pragmatism and we have neither.
Now, dealers are marking cars up past MSRP lately, so I don’t know if you can actually get one for this price, but there are usually programs (depending on state), to get some money taken off the price (paid by the government).
I looked a few years ago, and used leafs are pretty cheap. A 7-8 year old one with like 75K miles, were like $7500.
This worries me a bit, but I have heard, that they can make a new pack using an old pack and about 15% new material. So at least a good portion of the pack can be recycled.
I also, did a bit of digging because I was worried about cost of replacement for the battery. If you go to sources outside of the cars manufacturer, you can usually get batteries for about half the cost. Still expensive, but it’s on par with replacing an auto transmission.
I decided I would stick with IC cars for now though.
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Well, yeah, honestly I have hardly looked at electric car prices, so I was going off old info, so I stand corrected. Of course that’s for a base model, but still pretty cheap. However, you can get a used Honda Civic for $5 to $10K.
Ironically the 15% that cannot be reused is the highly caustic part.
The concern is getting cheap chinese batteries are almost definitely not going to be anywhere near as good as the originals. I am sure there are probably upgraded options, have no idea how much they cost.
I was pondering the viability of an electric or hybrid car vs my Toyota Tundra this morning as I was dodging new potholes and carefully traversing the frost heaves that get worse every day.
Would all of the tire, wheel and undercarriage repairs off-set the cost of fueling a vehicle that’s suitable for where I live and what I do?
I suppose it depends on how adept you are at avoiding the many road hazards that materialize every day. Our local government has more important priorities than silly road maintenance. There’s a planet to save and solidarity with Ukraine to express. Roads can wait.
We won’t ramp up our domestic production, but we beg Saudi Arabia to ramp up production. They won’t even take biden’s phone call. “Hey King Salman, biden’s on the phone?”
“Ugh, tell him I am rewinding my CD collection, I am talking to putin right now.”
You can’t make this shit up…
True, but not a good one. Used cars are crazy right now, and Honda seems to hold value pretty well.
We bought a used Elantra right before everything got crazy. After transferring the title and taxes it was 6K. 2015 with 85K miles. I think going private party, and getting a manual transmission saved us some money. I would love a civic, but it just seems like so much money for a compact car on the used market.
From what I have seen, they are American. There is a YouTube (ChrisFix), where he buys a Prius (hybrid, not full electric) with a bad battery for 1500. He sources a battery (with quite a bit of reviews on it) for about $1500 and shows how to replace it (not all that complicated of a process, took him maybe 3 hours). So he got a Prius with fairly low miles for $3K. He said it would be more like 5K to have a dealer do it. Kinda a hack to buying an efficient car (buying a Prius with a bad battery). I wonder if anyone has stolen the cat out of it yet (apparently the Prius cat is highly sought after, and stolen a lot).
I have been researching the past year and electrics just dont worth it yet. They drop value as soon as you drive them for an year. The cheap electrics lose almost 90 percent value in 5-6 years.
The best value for money offers Toyota according to my research. And their corolla is one of the best buys if you are looking for compact car which is very reliable and efficient. I was after their sedan or estate, but the sedan seems much better fuel efficiency and that is what I was after.
However hybrids do not offer performance. I am tired of high speeds and I find myself driving with 50-60 miles the past two years rather than 90-100 miles before that with my Audi A6.
Lastly there is hypermilling with hybrids and they are efficient with it. Even when hypermilling on my old Audi I was able to save about 2 liters per 100 km. The Audi spends about 12 liters per 100 km, but drops down to 10, when you put an effort. You can go as low as 60-70 mpg on a compact hybrid if hyper milling.
Maybe not. But the knowledge that you are a superior form of being to those driving gasoline-powered vehicles would.
Sure, if you are slumming it, things can get done cheaply. But keep in mind guys like him have resources and contact developed over the course of years that you do not have access to, unless you are a mechanic too. I used to work in a mechanic’s shop. I got parts 50% off and had all the mechanic’s tools and special tools I wanted and could do anything I wanted on the cheap. But now, I don’t have such access and I can’t do what I used to do. My $4 oil changes are a thing of the past.
Hell, I used to drain my oil, do a flush with new oil, drain it again, and then fill it. Those were the days. By access, resources, and connections are what you need for that type of stuff. And if you are on the outside looking in, it’s very difficult to pull off. It’s possible, but it’s not easy.
My problems with dealers aren’t the price, per se. It’s all the unnecessary shit they try to sell you and they prey on people who don’t know shit about cars. Since I am well versed in the automobile, I go with very specific instructions and the warning to not go outside of the instructions and that keeps my cost reasonable.
I would happily do this stuff my self, but I just don’t have $50K worth of tools, lifts and access to on-demand parts.
The guys I used to work with would by cheap broken cars, fix them and sell them at a tremendous profit, all the time. It’s a great gig when you have access and opportunity.
Yeah, trust me I have noticed. I have been interested in getting a beater, but even the beaters are too much.
These people….
Biden: "I'm sick of this stuff ... the American people think the reason for inflation is government spending more money. Simply not true!"
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) March 11, 2022
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Confidence in the dollar is permanent, everyone knows that.
Yeah, that’s the rantings of a failure who goes to bed at 4 PM and doesn’t know where he is half the time… “Why is everybody mad at me?”
Just the headline is bad enough. Everything rests on the petro-dollar. That’s the shit they don’t tell you when borrowing trillions of dollars for “green energy”. Which can only be done on the basis of the petro-dollar. Everything rests on that. If we lose that, we lose the status as the world’s reserve currency, which means nobody will buy our debt, which means we are beyond screwed.
Saving the dollar maybe the only legit reason to get into this war. It would at least be more legit that what these morons are doing.
Trump (love him or hate him) saw the handwriting on the wall, which is why the big push for energy independence and bring home manufacturing and troops. What he knew and what history will likely tell us, is our influence was waning and our borrowing power shrinking. The way to properly deal with that is to circle the wagons. Bring everything home you can and become the competitor to your trading partners. That keeps the currency strong without worrying about the decisions other countries make. And though it was working, ‘orange man bad’ now we’re here. Half broke, our civil liberties in shambles and near serious war.
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I am surprised they even bothered to admit it. They’ve lied for so long, why even bother with it. Something strange is afoot. This really should be the biggest news going right now. They censored a news outlet. The forbade people from even talking about it privately on social media. This scandal is massive and yet it’s a by-word. A forgotten thing.
Anybody doubt biden is the worst president in history, still? I mean, everything is on fire. Our southern border is probably the worst crisis among all the others. But, everything went from fuck up, to full blown disaster. At least they created a crisis that didn’t involve compelled behavior.
The only thing the biden admin hasn’t fucked up, yet, is getting us involved in Ukraine, yet, but he is trying. Their borders and their country and their citizens matter. American citizens can go fuck themselves. You have to cross the border illegally to enjoy the same freedoms citizens used to have.
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