Biden 2021 - A Mediocre Middle Ground

China is ramping up it’s invasion force to take Taiwan. At this point it is an inevitability. That is going to spark a war, but not a far off war. This one will be serious. And now they know how incompetent we are, they are emboldened. Go see what the CCP is saying and the threats they are making regarding Taiwan. When that happens, we are going to bumble and stumble and back-in to a major conflict.

I’ll say it one last time…

Show me where I defended the way in which the Biden Administration pulled out of Afghanistan…and I’ll never post here again.

And to say that twenty years of maiming and suffering; environmental and human devastation; treasure and death; both in Iraq and Afghanistan; is somehow comparable in scope to what just happened almost didn’t deserve a response. It’s Partisanship at it’s worst.

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How many us troops do you estimate it would take to secure the capital city with zero help from locals, no local police or military, surrounded by an enemy of 20years and another enemy with a proclivity for suicide attacks?

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In your history of ludicrous posts this goes on your Mount Rushmore of stupidity. And I don’t say that lightly knowing the size of the options.

Reagan going into Beirut, resulting in the deaths of 241 US troops. But idiots like you don’t remember, if you ever even knew, things like this. This catastrophe was then followed by the invasion of Grenada, for phony reasons, to divert attention from Reagan’s screw up. Again, you wouldn’t know this.

No, it’s that pat is a stupid person. He is not knowledgeable about anything. He also has brain damage which makes his stupidity even worse.

The Taliban weren’t going to enter the city, so I would say it wouldn’t take any more than the troops we snuck at of Bagram in the middle of the night. And they could have taken all those weapons with them.

You do know they would have been targets for ISIS? Maybe you didn’t.

How many ISIS fighters do you think are near Kabul?

I’d guess a couple hundred at most, IDK.

How many Taliban are also ISIS or sympathetic to ISIS or another terrorist acronym in the area?

The US had one helluva tough time securing the airport. I would think that a capital city (with the Taliban and ISIS already inside) would be exponentially more difficult.

IDK if it was the right call to let the Taliban take over Kabul… But I don’t think it’s a cut-dry awful incompetent decision to do so.

So what do we do in that situation? Allow the threat of a terror attack stop the rushed evacuation of Americans and allies from a hostile nation? Just shut down the entrance gate until… When? The threat is over? It would still be closed. Legitimately, how do you handle that situation?

It only takes one. However, it isn’t about near Kabul but in Kabul, and there are probably more than our experts believe.

To get clear I think we fucked up many aspects of this, but ultimately getting out of Afghanistan should have happened a long time ago. If we were waiting for it to be safe or to keep the Taliban from taking power it would never happen.

Biden deserves blame for mishandling this no doubt. But Bush, Obama, Trump deserve far more blame for not doing it when they had power. Biden’s just the one left holding the bag.

And he slipped the bag full of eggs as soon as he got it. This is a topic about Biden.

So far oil and gas crisis and Europe and major international Military fuck up in Asia. Thanks, Biden.

That is excluding all the US fuck ups. In general pretty good leadership. Nope.

I think the generalised rhetoric was “it’ll take them a while”. But… it didn’t, they took over very quickly

@pat it is unfortunate that this thread has become overrun by experts in inept insults. Unfortunate, but unsurprising.

You are able to state your opinion clearly, which puts you far ahead of people who comes here to seemingly work through their personal issues.

Back on topic, Biden knows that no white supremacists can be emboldened if you don’t answer questions about Afghanistan.

#leadership

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But if you read the article above, they didn’t want to take it over. They offered us the chance to take it over first. They didn’t enter the city until the coward president left the country and created the vacuum.