Fine. If you won’t talk about Biden let’s talk about Greene. Specifically, let’s talk about your characterization of my post.
What bad outcomes do you lay at her feet that I overlooked? I admitted I had to look up her record and do a little googling. I know she’s said something about Jewish Space Lasers and is a creationist.
What, exactly, am I downplaying?
Those are two softball, easy questions. Come down from the clouds of broad narrative land and get specific for a change.
The Republican Party is putting lunatics like her and Trump in power but at least they are fighters. I think AOC has a lot of lunatic ideas but I suppose she’s also a fighter right? Have you ever given her credit for that? Of course not.
And to be clear I don’t think she deserves it. I don’t think lunatics are less of an issue because they “fight.” How about we just don’t put lunatics in Congress or the Presidency? And not give them kudos for “fighting.”
Have a good one. Don’t be afraid to fully criticize what’s going on in the Republican Party. Your boy Dan Crenshaw is at risk of being cancelled by the party because he took the non insane issue of Trump losing the election which any rational person know happened and it wasn’t because of fraud.
@H_factor Alrighty then. Keep in mind I don’t ask you to echo any point of view I hold. I simply ask you to explain yours in clear, specific terms.
I feel like I do a fairly decent job of that, generally speaking. Here we are talking about Trump and MJTYGN after I explained a lot of clear concerns about Biden that are somehow never responded to in the dubiously-titled, “Biden 2021 - A Mediocre Middle Ground” thread.
I thought I brought up some good points and backed them up well, along with giving AOC credit for being effective. I think it’s self-evident that she’s a fearless fighter for her policies, but I’m sorry to have disappointed you for not pointing that out sooner.
I don’t think you really answered either of my questions. It seems like you’re saying the bad outcome Marjorie Taylor Green is responsible for is winning her election. You can’t explain the bad outcomes that result from this, but I suppose it would be a fool’s errand to expect an explanation about that.
Instead you come with shit like this, which is a fantasy narrative with no basis in fact. Crenshaw isn’t going anywhere, he’s a party fixture now and I think that’s a positive development for Americans.
You can’t see the bad outcomes that come from electing crazy people? The Republican Party has said that lunacy won’t keep you from rising to Congress. And you don’t think that’s bad because she hasn’t accomplished anything with her lunacy yet? Wait until you elect more people like her. That’s the thing you dismiss all the horseshit with the right constantly.
Trump wasn’t successful in doing everything possible to maintain power so none of it matters? You gotta be kidding me with this? The President and his lackeys pressured election officials and encouraged them to do whatever it took so he could win an election that he lost. From using the military to possibly maintain power. From demanding that we stop counting votes when he was ahead in a state. Having people sue other states because they didn’t like the outcome. We could go on and on about that pure lunacy with countless examples but what’s the point? If he runs again your party would elect him in a heartbeat. Your party would have been thrilled if the pressure on election officials would have worked. They wouldn’t have cared one iota how he stayed in. That much is abundantly clear.
And if it was Biden who had lost like Trump did and he did everything Trump did you would be on here screaming daily about the abuse of power and everything else.
If you can’t acknowledge at least the fact that your posting history suggests that is absolutely the case I don’t know what to tell you. B
The list of people who dared defy Trump and had no problems is very short. If Trump turned his spiteful eye on Dan Crenshaw for that comment right now he would immediately be at jeopardy moving forward. That’s not a fantasy narrative in the least. Why do you think all your party fixtures are so careful in how they have handled his train wrecks? They absolutely know that getting on his bad side could ruin them.
Worst mistake of the Democrats was to go against the moms. When you involve the moms shit gets nasty. They are there to protect their children. I am observing more and more American women go against the Democrats and that is not going to end well for the Democrats. American women are capable and have proven to be able to change stuff. Same for all moms.
Democrats claimed voter fraud after losing the 2016 elections for 3 years. I think you have a very short memory.
I will drop this here
Voter fraud and voter fraud claims have a long history in America
I will drop here a link for a brief history about the problem
I wonder how he tried to overturn the election results? Do not tell me Jan 6th, please. This is the lamest attempt of Democrats to go against Trump. And the lamest “coup attempt” from bunch of confused protesters, who were invited by the police in the building.
I tend to agree. We had to get out at some point, and there was no “good” way to do it. I wouldnt mind a few more random rounds of airstrike potshots against the taliban over the next 12 months though. Low risk but high reward type of airstrikes.
Hilary Clinton conceded the night of the election. States weren’t sued by other states because they didn’t like the results. President Obama didn’t tell the Secretary of State somewhere to find the votes. Clinton didn’t scream stop the count as the election was going on. She didn’t scream to keep counting in states she was behind.
Voter fraud and allegations have a long history that much is true. But don’t even pretend like Republicans and their leader in 2020 acted like everyone else does.
You have a very short memory if you think 2016 and 2020 were even remotely similar in terms of reactions by the people in power.
But this has also been covered before in other threads and my guess would be you don’t really care at all what is brought up as much like some others on here your mind is completely made up that he was correct. Or none of it was a big deal just like any other year. Give me a break.
And let’s not get it twisted either. We’re talking about a career conman who told his followers who believed everything he said that if he lost it was because of fraud. Now anyone with half a brain knew that he was very unpopular except with his base. They knew that he was going up against an opponent who was much more liked than Clinton (who beat him in the popular vote).
Trumps loss wasn’t surprising to anyone with half a brain. Most of the forum got it right in the election predictions thread. But he’s convinced a bunch of people that he can’t lose at anything without it being a cheat. Imagine that a career conman conning his followers to the bitter end.
And if he really wants to run in 2024 they will vote for him again. Because he can talk them into anything.
Wrong. The claim is that there was interference, not fraud. It’s amazing how people forget facts after a year or two. Maybe, they never knew them in the first place.
The people claiming that were United States intelligence officials and Republicans and Democrats agreeing that foreign interference happened in an election.
The people claiming voter fraud? The person who lost the election who said if I lose this is what I’m going to say was the reason. I can talk these suckers into anything might as well hedge my bet now.
I believe Hunter Biden has been rehabilitated. I’d be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, give him a second chance.
The character and demeanour of an addict can change for the better, or worse depending on his or her trajectory of drug use.
I know someone who was at one point a heroin addict. The difference within that individual now relative to when he/she was wrestling with the throes of addiction is night and day
Had Joe Biden pandered towards associating with some morally dubious people for a short period of time in effort to save his son I wouldn’t hold it against him less were he to commit conspiracy, be involved with hardcore organised crime syndicates etc. The same rhetoric goes with Trump, though I know for a fact he has associated with many questionable individuals throughout his lifetime.