[quote]pitbull11188 wrote:
I have horrible curling technique and whenever I curl I never get the pump that many talk about.
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I think this is a key quote. Dropping the weight and fixing the technique would be a start. For the pump, again it’s fairly simple - do more reps, or use intensity techniques to increase time under tension. Using inherently stricter movements such as preacher curls, incline curls, and curls while standing against the wall may also help with technique.
[quote]bigjoey wrote:
pitbull11188 wrote:
I have horrible curling technique and whenever I curl I never get the pump that many talk about.
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I think this is a key quote. Dropping the weight and fixing the technique would be a start. For the pump, again it’s fairly simple - do more reps, or use intensity techniques to increase time under tension. Using inherently stricter movements such as preacher curls, incline curls, and curls while standing against the wall may also help with technique.[/quote]
I agree with that completely. If your form is way off, you go back the beginning and work on form. Preacher benches are one piece of equipment that I use more than anything for biceps.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dude, if you can curl 70lbs for ten reps and your arms are smaller than 16", you probably don’t have the genetics for this in terms of bodybuilding. I would also doubt that you could curl that much for dumbbells at that size or that your form was decent, even though I am sure there just might be some small exception to the rule. No one asked for your arm size.[/quote]
All right, we’re talkin’ about 10 reps =D nevermind then.
In support of “…I am sure there just might be some small exception to the rule” as far as connecting strength w/hypertrophy I think that hypertrophy can be avoided, to a surprising degree, in some instances. Competitive weight lifters are known to lift double their bodyweight even lifters at 130lbs (I’m sure you know this). See the thing is, in my opinion, it is possible for someone to have an extremely low “strength deficit” allowing them to build lots of strength without a “heck of a lot” of muscle.
I really don’t want to debate this. I’ve read all the hypertrophy articles and I still see people going back and forth on it. I just figured I should finally give my 2cents. However, I agree with what your saying and what I’ve skimmed through on your response posts on hypertrophy.
-Just so everyone who reads this to sum up my post: for someone who trains as apposed to the person who doesn’t (the person who gets an “adrenaline rush” and becomes empowered with incredible strength) SIZE DEFINATELY INCREASES W/STRENGTH NO MATTER WHAT unless…it’s your first day lifting and the next day you can lift more weight but there’s no size increase =D.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I agree with that completely. If your form is way off, you go back the beginning and work on form. Preacher benches are one piece of equipment that I use more than anything for biceps.[/quote]
Yea, what he said and what the other guy said.
To the poster who complained about all the my biceps won’t grow threads I am not the typical little kid who trains only his arms, if you would have read my post I outlined some basic numbers and while not an animal it’s obvious that I’m getting some lifting done outside of my arms. To the poster that said something about other exercises, the only exercise I can think of is barbell rows and I use my back for the most part, my biceps usually get called in to assist in the last couple sets.
Some info that may be helpful.
I weigh 235. While I’m not a complete lardass I am fat. I’m not going to sit here and play with myself and attempt to guesstimate my bf% and I’m not holding up a shoe so we’re out of luck. I am basically at the fat level where I look good in a t-shirt, but once the T comes off there are obvious love handles and a stomach.
Routine:
Monday
BP
Rows
skull crushers
preacher curls
military press
tuesday
deadlift
goodmornings
lunges
wednesday
off
thursday
Incline BP
Rows
tricep extensions
standing curls
dumble raises
friday
squat
Good Mornings
Sprints or Jump rope is performed on all days.
I eat relatively clean, my downfall is bread and other carbs.
Sleep is fleeting as stated before.
I don’t need a lecture b/c I know it’s bad, but alcohol use (4 shots everclear) happens sbout once every other day depending on my stress level. No smoking of tobacco or otherwise. No medications.
Greentea is drunk often. Coffee is limited to less than 3 cups and had maybe once a month. Soda is only drunk when mixed with aforementioned alcohol.
I think I answered any question that anyone could ask if there are more I will answer them later.
Regardless of the hype suggesting 3 sets is all you need for biceps development I’ve found I need about 6-9 sets per bicep workout and sometimes I’ve got to do this twice a week. It seems like your volume is low so slowly start adding some sets and, like was said before, use excellent form.
[quote]Bram Wiley wrote:
Regardless of the hype suggesting 3 sets is all you need for biceps development I’ve found I need about 6-9 sets per bicep workout and sometimes I’ve got to do this twice a week. It seems like your volume is low so slowly start adding some sets and, like was said before, use excellent form.[/quote]
First, I agree on the number of sets. I disagree with throwing the term “excellent form” out there flatly because for some reason, this confuses newbies. If I need to sway a little to do alternate dumbbells using my heaviest weight, I do so. The proof of this working is in the fact that I stretch my shirt sleeves and have not had a significant injury. I agree that BEGINNERS should truly focus on form and that this guy probably need to clean up his technique. However, there are other people reading these threads and judging from the number of “look how bad Ronnie is lifting” posts, it seems like a concept not fully understood.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Bram Wiley wrote:
First, I agree on the number of sets. I disagree with throwing the term “excellent form” out there flatly because for some reason, this confuses newbies. If I need to sway a little to do alternate dumbbells using my heaviest weight, I do so. The proof of this working is in the fact that I stretch my shirt sleeves and have not had a significant injury. I agree that BEGINNERS should truly focus on form and that this guy probably need to clean up his technique. However, there are other people reading these threads and judging from the number of “look how bad Ronnie is lifting” posts, it seems like a concept not fully understood.[/quote]
Yeah, correct form (how much to control, when to cheat) is a confusing concept and is best learned through experience, either your own through lots of reps and focus or through someone else who knows what they are doing. I agree that it shouldn’t be thrown around loosely, I’ll try and figure out a better way of saying it in the future.
Pitbull. Just stick with it dude. You’ll get there.
And one day you’ll look back, think of how you used to train and slap yourself in the head. But experience is the only teacher most of us are willing to learn from.
If you can’t get a pump happening, spend more time on them and try a lighter weight, lowered for a longer period (2-3 secs). I like to lower it slow and then squeeze my bicep (mentally) to get it back up. Works for me.
After you get decent bicep strength, the best this you can learn is how to do a heavy cheat curl. Another thing, the more you work out the more you can push yourself past a regular failure set without your golgi tendon telling you to drop the weight. In essence, you’re workout become more effective and you’re able to push yourself further. So the big games will come in time.