According to the article, they get married at a higher rate due to religion (since this is PWI, I will be nice) and early pregnancies (guess that abstinence thing doesn’t always work out as planned).
Then they get divorced at a higher rate due to the fact they are poor.[/quote]
The live in a certain area. That’s as far as the assumption should go.
Unless you can show that the divorces are occurring specifically among church-going, Jesus is Lord proclaiming type folk, this whole thread is just an excuse to shit all over Christians.
Very classy.[/quote]
Why aren’t all of the poor people in New York getting married at a younger age? Could it be that they have no obligation due to religion?[/quote]
There are young, married poor people in New York. There are young, single poor people in the “bible belt”.
Don’t be silly.
[/quote]
Silly? You just took what I said and decided I was really saying something else.
I didn’t say there weren’t any young married people in New York, only that there’s a far lower percentage of them and I asked a question about why that was. Also, the trend New York is moving away faster from young marriages than among poor people in the Bible belt. All of that should be obvious. [/quote]
Why aren’t all of the poor people in New York getting married at a younger age? Could it be that they have no obligation due to religion?[/quote]
Because baby’s daddy is in prison? [/quote]
Baby’s daddy goes to prison in the Bible belt as well. Plus, you can get married before they go to prison, which I bet you would find several examples of in the Bible belt.
Does the Bible belt encourage these recently single women to get an education and support their kids? Or are they encouraged to remarry soon? I’m honestly asking here, it’s not a leading qestion.[/quote]
No, this is all faulty correlation period. People call it the bible belt, they doesn’t mean that every single person in the region is a devout church going Christian. It doesn’t say anything at all about Christians. You’d have to break the numbers down quite a bit more to derive a correlation that isn’t absolute horse shit.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Well, as far as out of wedlock and crime rates…there’s an uncomfortable factor, a demographics factor, being ignored. Now, do we encourage single mothers to get an education? I suppose. I can’t recall ever hearing anyone say getting an AA would do any harm. But I’m not sure that ‘shotgun weddings’ are even a negative compared to not getting married as young parents. Yes, there’s a failure rate, but there’s also a success rate. And hey, maybe mom and dad don’t have college degrees, but when did blue collar work become dishonorable?[/quote]
And how many people in NY State have college degrees. NY and much of the East Coast is pretty fucking blue collar.[/quote]
Just a forewarning, you worded this quested poorly. I think you mean, what PERCENTAGE of New Yorkers have college degrees, because if you’re going by pure numbers, they will wipe out the rest of the country.[/quote]Thank you for second guessing my quested.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
So, like, what’s the argument supposed to be, anyway? [/quote]
Atheists are unmarried criminals[/quote]
Yep bunch of criminals us atheists..
"I have expanded the figures to provide a % of the total respondents, and I have ranked them (they were presented to me alphabetically). These stats were obtained from their computer on 5 March 1997.
Dear Mr. Swift:
The Federal Bureau of Prisons does have statistics on religious
affiliations of inmates. The following are total number of
inmates per religion category:
Response Number %
Catholic 29267 39.164%
Protestant 26162 35.008%
Muslim 5435 7.273%
American Indian 2408 3.222%
Nation 1734 2.320%
Rasta 1485 1.987%
Jewish 1325 1.773%
Church of Christ 1303 1.744%
Pentecostal 1093 1.463%
Moorish 1066 1.426%
Buddhist 882 1.180%
Jehovah Witness 665 0.890%
Adventist 621 0.831%
Orthodox 375 0.502%
Mormon 298 0.399%
Scientology 190 0.254%
Atheist 156 0.209%
Hindu 119 0.159%
Santeria 117 0.157%
Sikh 14 0.019%
Bahai 9 0.012%
Krishna 7 0.009%
Total Known Responses 74731 100.001% (rounding to 3 digits does this)
Unknown/No Answer 18381
Total Convicted 93112 80.259% (74731) prisoners’ religion is known.
Held in Custody 3856 (not surveyed due to temporary custody)
Total In Prisons 96968
I hope that this information is helpful to you.
Sincerely,
Denise Golumbaski
Research Analyst
Federal Bureau of Prisons"
[quote]Cortes wrote:
So, like, what’s the argument supposed to be, anyway? [/quote]
Atheists are unmarried criminals[/quote]
Yep bunch of criminals us atheists..
"I have expanded the figures to provide a % of the total respondents, and I have ranked them (they were presented to me alphabetically). These stats were obtained from their computer on 5 March 1997.
Dear Mr. Swift:
The Federal Bureau of Prisons does have statistics on religious
affiliations of inmates. The following are total number of
inmates per religion category:
Response Number %
Catholic 29267 39.164%
Protestant 26162 35.008%
Muslim 5435 7.273%
American Indian 2408 3.222%
Nation 1734 2.320%
Rasta 1485 1.987%
Jewish 1325 1.773%
Church of Christ 1303 1.744%
Pentecostal 1093 1.463%
Moorish 1066 1.426%
Buddhist 882 1.180%
Jehovah Witness 665 0.890%
Adventist 621 0.831%
Orthodox 375 0.502%
Mormon 298 0.399%
Scientology 190 0.254%
Atheist 156 0.209%
Hindu 119 0.159%
Santeria 117 0.157%
Sikh 14 0.019%
Bahai 9 0.012%
Krishna 7 0.009%
Total Known Responses 74731 100.001% (rounding to 3 digits does this)
Unknown/No Answer 18381
Total Convicted 93112 80.259% (74731) prisoners’ religion is known.
Held in Custody 3856 (not surveyed due to temporary custody)
Total In Prisons 96968
I hope that this information is helpful to you.
Sincerely,
Denise Golumbaski
Research Analyst
Federal Bureau of Prisons"
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Well, as far as out of wedlock and crime rates…there’s an uncomfortable factor, a demographics factor, being ignored. Now, do we encourage single mothers to get an education? I suppose. I can’t recall ever hearing anyone say getting an AA would do any harm. But I’m not sure that ‘shotgun weddings’ are even a negative compared to not getting married as young parents. Yes, there’s a failure rate, but there’s also a success rate. And hey, maybe mom and dad don’t have college degrees, but when did blue collar work become dishonorable?[/quote]
And how many people in NY State have college degrees. NY and much of the East Coast is pretty fucking blue collar.[/quote]
Just a forewarning, you worded this quested poorly. I think you mean, what PERCENTAGE of New Yorkers have college degrees, because if you’re going by pure numbers, they will wipe out the rest of the country.[/quote]Thank you for second guessing my quested.
Feel free to crunch numbers for me.
[/quote]
No problem. Google is your friend:
Almost 5 million people over the age of 25 in the New York metropolitan area â?? more than a third of the regionâ??s population â?? had at least a bachelorâ??s degree in 2005, according to the latest data from the Census Bureau. In Manhattan, nearly three out of five residents were college graduates and one out of four had advanced degrees, forming one of the highest concentrations of highly educated people in any American city.
Turns out you were wrong regardless of your wording. My bad.
Oh look, the Bible Belt is home to two of states of the lowest percentage of college graduates, and overall generally doesn’t have above 25% of the population with any college degree. Yes, for those who feel like “crunching the numbers” that means that 75% of the Bible belt didn’t get past high school.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
So, like, what’s the argument supposed to be, anyway? [/quote]
Atheists are unmarried criminals[/quote]
Yep bunch of criminals us atheists..
"I have expanded the figures to provide a % of the total respondents, and I have ranked them (they were presented to me alphabetically). These stats were obtained from their computer on 5 March 1997.
Dear Mr. Swift:
The Federal Bureau of Prisons does have statistics on religious
affiliations of inmates. The following are total number of
inmates per religion category:
Response Number %
Catholic 29267 39.164%
Protestant 26162 35.008%
Muslim 5435 7.273%
American Indian 2408 3.222%
Nation 1734 2.320%
Rasta 1485 1.987%
Jewish 1325 1.773%
Church of Christ 1303 1.744%
Pentecostal 1093 1.463%
Moorish 1066 1.426%
Buddhist 882 1.180%
Jehovah Witness 665 0.890%
Adventist 621 0.831%
Orthodox 375 0.502%
Mormon 298 0.399%
Scientology 190 0.254%
Atheist 156 0.209%
Hindu 119 0.159%
Santeria 117 0.157%
Sikh 14 0.019%
Bahai 9 0.012%
Krishna 7 0.009%
Total Known Responses 74731 100.001% (rounding to 3 digits does this)
Unknown/No Answer 18381
Total Convicted 93112 80.259% (74731) prisoners’ religion is known.
Held in Custody 3856 (not surveyed due to temporary custody)
Total In Prisons 96968
I hope that this information is helpful to you.
Sincerely,
Denise Golumbaski
Research Analyst
Federal Bureau of Prisons"
[quote]Christine wrote:
guess that abstinence thing doesn’t always work out as planned.[/quote]
Abstinence works out perfectly.
Don’t have sex = no babies. Having sex =/= abstinence.
It’s actually the opposite of abstinence. So you can’t say you’re following a no sex plan…and then have sex and say the plan failed…no you failed, you have no will power, congratulations.
Why aren’t all of the poor people in New York getting married at a younger age? Could it be that they have no obligation due to religion?[/quote]
Because baby’s daddy is in prison? [/quote]
Baby’s daddy goes to prison in the Bible belt as well. Plus, you can get married before they go to prison, which I bet you would find several examples of in the Bible belt.
Does the Bible belt encourage these recently single women to get an education and support their kids? Or are they encouraged to remarry soon? I’m honestly asking here, it’s not a leading qestion.[/quote]
You live in Germany, must be Nazi! You live in Russia, must be Communist!
How would we know what the entire Bible belt is going to do? I mean pretty large chunk of non-Catholic Christians say divorce is okay.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
So, like, what’s the argument supposed to be, anyway? [/quote]
Atheists are unmarried criminals[/quote]
Yep bunch of criminals us atheists..
"I have expanded the figures to provide a % of the total respondents, and I have ranked them (they were presented to me alphabetically). These stats were obtained from their computer on 5 March 1997.
Dear Mr. Swift:
The Federal Bureau of Prisons does have statistics on religious
affiliations of inmates. The following are total number of
inmates per religion category:
Response Number %
Catholic 29267 39.164%
Protestant 26162 35.008%
Muslim 5435 7.273%
American Indian 2408 3.222%
Nation 1734 2.320%
Rasta 1485 1.987%
Jewish 1325 1.773%
Church of Christ 1303 1.744%
Pentecostal 1093 1.463%
Moorish 1066 1.426%
Buddhist 882 1.180%
Jehovah Witness 665 0.890%
Adventist 621 0.831%
Orthodox 375 0.502%
Mormon 298 0.399%
Scientology 190 0.254%
Atheist 156 0.209%
Hindu 119 0.159%
Santeria 117 0.157%
Sikh 14 0.019%
Bahai 9 0.012%
Krishna 7 0.009%
Total Known Responses 74731 100.001% (rounding to 3 digits does this)
Unknown/No Answer 18381
Total Convicted 93112 80.259% (74731) prisoners’ religion is known.
Held in Custody 3856 (not surveyed due to temporary custody)
Total In Prisons 96968
I hope that this information is helpful to you.
Sincerely,
Denise Golumbaski
Research Analyst
Federal Bureau of Prisons"
Hell all this tells me is that even criminals are smart enough to know there is a God and you’d better take notice. Perhaps you should turn to crime and find God.
