[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
what? Chuck don’t get any love because he got KTFO? He’s still one of the best strikers IMO.[/quote]
Chuck Norris did NOT get KTFO. In fact, when the punch was coming, his beard stopped it, and KO’d his opponent. Ha!
What does everybody think of Rampages striking?
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
supermonkey wrote:
Yosuke Nishijima.
…got dropped by Cyborg with a few knees. There is a lot more to MMA striking than punching well.[/quote]
I know… Hopefully he will improve the rest of his game.
[quote]mr_slick wrote:
What does everybody think of Rampages striking?[/quote]
I like his defense. Crazy monkey or whatever you want to call it. Elbows up and tight, chin down. He also has some head movement up and down. It is simple and works against guys who can’t throw down the middle and don’t kick and don’t clinch. He can come forward and be confident that he can counter or engage for a takedown.
Arona gave him some trouble with low kicks and Silva gave him trouble in the clinch. Guys whose skill set is punching and wrestling would have a tough time against Rampage standing up. ALOT of guys don’t throw punches straight down the middle or go to the body.
The reason you hear is that BOXING doesn’t work in mma and what they are doing is mma striking. I don’t but that explanation, and the reason guys don’t punch straight is deeper than that. Anderson Silva punches straight, Crocop punches straight and anyway that would take a really lonf post for me to get into detail.
[quote]mr_slick wrote:
What does everybody think of Rampages striking?[/quote]
He beat Cyril Adibi in K-1, twice i believe, so he’s got some pedigree.
[quote]gotaknife wrote:
AdamC wrote:
Donut62 wrote:
supermonkey wrote:
Anderson Silva has schooled everybody on the feet so I would say him. The first time I saw him was the big flying knee ko of Carlos Newton:
Not to nitpick but I think that Chonan gave him a run for his money in the stand-up. You could tell that the leg kicks Chonan was landing were really slowing Silva down. [/quote]
Might have to watch that one again but I seem to remember he was controlling the fight before the famous heel hook.
Anyone rate Alistair Overeem as a striker? Good dutch kickboxing pedigree. He was dominating Chuck standing until he got caught and also controlled Shogun on the feet.
Also Cyril Diabete is a bit of a dark horse, he dominated Shogun in the stand up parts of their fight.
Jerome LeBanner in K1 is quite impressive.
[quote]Hoffa wrote:
Jerome LeBanner in K1 is…[/quote]
not MMA.
If you want to go that route than Hoost and Aerts are the top of the line.
Sokudjou (The African Assassin) has stirred up the pot quite a bit.
I was watching some WEC coverage on TSN last week. Urijah Fabar, a 145lb fighter…mighty impressive.
[quote]Chewie wrote:
Sokudjou (The African Assassin) has stirred up the pot quite a bit. [/quote]
I have to agree. He certainly came out of Left field and completely dominated Arona. I know I might lose a couple of you guys on here but so far I enjoyed James Thompsons “Hockeuy” style fighting. (Brawling)Especially againts Don Frye. That would probally go down as the most intense staredown in MMA History.
[quote]AdamC wrote:
gotaknife wrote:
AdamC wrote:
Donut62 wrote:
supermonkey wrote:
Anderson Silva has schooled everybody on the feet so I would say him. The first time I saw him was the big flying knee ko of Carlos Newton:
Not to nitpick but I think that Chonan gave him a run for his money in the stand-up. You could tell that the leg kicks Chonan was landing were really slowing Silva down.
Might have to watch that one again but I seem to remember he was controlling the fight before the famous heel hook.
Anyone rate Alistair Overeem as a striker? Good dutch kickboxing pedigree. He was dominating Chuck standing until he got caught and also controlled Shogun on the feet.
Also Cyril Diabete is a bit of a dark horse, he dominated Shogun in the stand up parts of their fight.[/quote]
Funny, I was going to suggest Overeem too. I think he looked great in the 2005 GP and even in his fight against Diet-Nog (even though his corner threw in the towel). The problem seems to be his conditioning regardless of whether he fights as a heavyweight or middleweight.
He fought 5 fights in a 6 month period last year, which seems ridiculous for a guy with a conditioning problem.
I don’t think that you can call Overeem one of the the greatest but he sure has a crapload of potential.
[quote]otoko wrote:
mr_slick wrote:
What does everybody think of Rampages striking?
I like his defense. Crazy monkey or whatever you want to call it. Elbows up and tight, chin down. He also has some head movement up and down. It is simple and works against guys who can’t throw down the middle and don’t kick and don’t clinch. He can come forward and be confident that he can counter or engage for a takedown.
Arona gave him some trouble with low kicks and Silva gave him trouble in the clinch. Guys whose skill set is punching and wrestling would have a tough time against Rampage standing up. ALOT of guys don’t throw punches straight down the middle or go to the body.
The reason you hear is that BOXING doesn’t work in mma and what they are doing is mma striking. I don’t but that explanation, and the reason guys don’t punch straight is deeper than that. Anderson Silva punches straight, Crocop punches straight and anyway that would take a really lonf post for me to get into detail.[/quote]
I am intrigued.
By the way, I think Melvin Manhoef deserves another mention. Good physique too.
Id like to comment on Aleksander Emilianko`s Striking ability. I think its far more superior than his olde rbrothers in terms of accuracy and tightness.
[quote]Nikiforos wrote:
By the way, I think Melvin Manhoef deserves another mention. Good physique too.[/quote]
And an even better dancer!
[quote]otoko wrote:
mr_slick wrote:
What does everybody think of Rampages striking?
I like his defense. Crazy monkey or whatever you want to call it. Elbows up and tight, chin down. He also has some head movement up and down. It is simple and works against guys who can’t throw down the middle and don’t kick and don’t clinch. He can come forward and be confident that he can counter or engage for a takedown.
Arona gave him some trouble with low kicks and Silva gave him trouble in the clinch. Guys whose skill set is punching and wrestling would have a tough time against Rampage standing up. ALOT of guys don’t throw punches straight down the middle or go to the body.
The reason you hear is that BOXING doesn’t work in mma and what they are doing is mma striking. I don’t but that explanation, and the reason guys don’t punch straight is deeper than that. Anderson Silva punches straight, Crocop punches straight and anyway that would take a really lonf post for me to get into detail.[/quote]
I understand what you’re saying…his style of defense was perfect for Chuck Liddell. Chuck throws alot of looping punches and bringing the elbows up blocks those while he can still get in range for his own strikes.
GEORGE ST PIERRE
hes lightining fast, acurate, lands every thing in the book,perfect technique, knock out power.
lost 2 fights only, both champion ship fights, one against the best champ in ufc history (in the welterweight devision) the other serra got lucky.
Anderson silva
Cro Cop
Andre Arlovski
Chuck Liddel
all for the same reasons as george
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
Nikiforos wrote:
By the way, I think Melvin Manhoef deserves another mention. Good physique too.
And an even better dancer![/quote]
I must be an awesome dancer then.
Have you ever seen a Rob Kaman entrance with that weird techno music? I m starting to see a pattern with the Dutch.
[quote]scotty144 wrote:
I was watching some WEC coverage on TSN last week. Urijah Fabar, a 145lb fighter…mighty impressive.[/quote]
I saw those fights to, he is EXPLOSIVE!
I think it is cool WEC has a 145 and a 135lb class
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
Hoffa wrote:
Jerome LeBanner in K1 is…
not MMA.
If you want to go that route than Hoost and Aerts are the top of the line.[/quote]
LeBanner has fought some MMA. But it’s true he is mainly a kickboxer. Here’s a nice highligt: Jerome Le Banner Highlight by DM - YouTube
Mark Hunt said: “Every time i fought Jerome Le Banner I lost 10 years of my life…”