Best Possible Cycle for 16 Y.O.

[quote]BFS wrote:
Nich wrote:
BFS wrote:
Nich wrote:
BFS wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
BFS wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
BFS wrote:
you probably can’t go wrong with a couple of cycles of RPN Havoc. Im 16 and i did one cycle. I had absolutey no side effects, just dry muscle. when i started i weighed 145 when i finished i weighed 170 and i droped down to 165 after i lost water weight due to creatine. my bench went from 205 to 245 and my power clean went from 205 to 220.

This is bad advice. Please don’t post more of the same.

Alright well enlighten me and explain why its bad advice

I’m going to ask the others here to chime in as well with the information I miss.

  1. At 16, the risk of permanent negative effects on the endocrine system is too large.

  2. There is a no way a 16 year old has achieved enough in the gym to justify a cycle.

  3. No mention of PCT

Wait did you even read the thread?

first of all, The risk of permanent endocrine system damage in increased with prolonged use of pro hormones: not one cycle. damage is very highly unlikely. second of all i used Bulgarian tribulus extract in a reverse pyramid dose pattern for PCT. I kept my all my gains.

I have to laugh at this ,it is so damned sad.

Please just stop.

what educational advice do you have to say about this man? im not on here to listen to you make yourself look good by dissing a 16 year old. i bet im way ahead of you you when you were 16. im on here to learn not listen to bull shit like that

I bet your a cocky little shit that thinks you know everything and infact knows nothing.
the only advise I can give is to shut up and read the posts around here,search function.
do ALOT less talking.

you and the OP are way too young both in time under the bar and out of the womb to even attempt any type of steroids or Pro hormones.

I am not here to force your hand away from the pills,if you feel so insecure about your own body and manhood tha tyou at 16 have to take a magic pill you be my guest atleast you wont be able to breed and make more dumb fuck,hiddious little chuds to plauge the earth and lower the collective IQ.

Isnt it past your bed time or is your baby sitter too busy banging the neighbor again?

shutup mother fucker. [/quote]

I saw this post before you edited it. You really are a little prick that doesn’t know how to shut his mouth.

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
BFS wrote:
Nich wrote:
BFS wrote:
Nich wrote:
BFS wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
BFS wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
BFS wrote:
you probably can’t go wrong with a couple of cycles of RPN Havoc. Im 16 and i did one cycle. I had absolutey no side effects, just dry muscle. when i started i weighed 145 when i finished i weighed 170 and i droped down to 165 after i lost water weight due to creatine. my bench went from 205 to 245 and my power clean went from 205 to 220.

This is bad advice. Please don’t post more of the same.

Alright well enlighten me and explain why its bad advice

I’m going to ask the others here to chime in as well with the information I miss.

  1. At 16, the risk of permanent negative effects on the endocrine system is too large.

  2. There is a no way a 16 year old has achieved enough in the gym to justify a cycle.

  3. No mention of PCT

Wait did you even read the thread?

first of all, The risk of permanent endocrine system damage in increased with prolonged use of pro hormones: not one cycle. damage is very highly unlikely. second of all i used Bulgarian tribulus extract in a reverse pyramid dose pattern for PCT. I kept my all my gains.

I have to laugh at this ,it is so damned sad.

Please just stop.

what educational advice do you have to say about this man? im not on here to listen to you make yourself look good by dissing a 16 year old. i bet im way ahead of you you when you were 16. im on here to learn not listen to bull shit like that

I bet your a cocky little shit that thinks you know everything and infact knows nothing.
the only advise I can give is to shut up and read the posts around here,search function.
do ALOT less talking.

you and the OP are way too young both in time under the bar and out of the womb to even attempt any type of steroids or Pro hormones.

I am not here to force your hand away from the pills,if you feel so insecure about your own body and manhood tha tyou at 16 have to take a magic pill you be my guest atleast you wont be able to breed and make more dumb fuck,hiddious little chuds to plauge the earth and lower the collective IQ.

Isnt it past your bed time or is your baby sitter too busy banging the neighbor again?

shutup mother fucker.

I saw this post before you edited it. You really are a little prick that doesn’t know how to shut his mouth. [/quote]

well your just a badass haha. you saw it?? are you going to go tell?? what a little cock sucker

[quote]BFS wrote:
Nich wrote:
BFS wrote:
Nich wrote:
BFS wrote:
Nich wrote:
BFS wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
BFS wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
BFS wrote:
you probably can’t go wrong with a couple of cycles of RPN Havoc. Im 16 and i did one cycle. I had absolutey no side effects, just dry muscle. when i started i weighed 145 when i finished i weighed 170 and i droped down to 165 after i lost water weight due to creatine. my bench went from 205 to 245 and my power clean went from 205 to 220.

This is bad advice. Please don’t post more of the same.

Alright well enlighten me and explain why its bad advice

I’m going to ask the others here to chime in as well with the information I miss.

  1. At 16, the risk of permanent negative effects on the endocrine system is too large.

  2. There is a no way a 16 year old has achieved enough in the gym to justify a cycle.

  3. No mention of PCT

Wait did you even read the thread?

first of all, The risk of permanent endocrine system damage in increased with prolonged use of pro hormones: not one cycle. damage is very highly unlikely. second of all i used Bulgarian tribulus extract in a reverse pyramid dose pattern for PCT. I kept my all my gains.

I have to laugh at this ,it is so damned sad.

Please just stop.

what educational advice do you have to say about this man? im not on here to listen to you make yourself look good by dissing a 16 year old. i bet im way ahead of you you when you were 16. im on here to learn not listen to bull shit like that

I bet your a cocky little shit that thinks you know everything and infact knows nothing.
the only advise I can give is to shut up and read the posts around here,search function.
do ALOT less talking.

you and the OP are way too young both in time under the bar and out of the womb to even attempt any type of steroids or Pro hormones.

I am not here to force your hand away from the pills,if you feel so insecure about your own body and manhood tha tyou at 16 have to take a magic pill you be my guest atleast you wont be able to breed and make more dumb fuck,hiddious little chuds to plauge the earth and lower the collective IQ.

Isnt it past your bed time or is your baby sitter too busy banging the neighbor again?

shutup mother fucker. your an ignorant faggot. did that ego come with a cock in your mouth?
like i said already,do a simple search stop wasting space on the forums with your BS about PHs being safe for 16 year olds,

this shit has been brought up every month for the last umpteen years,and answered to death.

NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MINDS ADVOCATE THE USE OF AAS OR PRO HORMONES FOR CHILDREN.

at 16 you are a child plain and simple.

coming from someone who is too much of a pussy to put a real picturee up here… wow and this “child” is probably ahead and your roid sticking ass right now… o yea but thanks for that striking knowledge. i havent used a cycle since that one. i plan on building natural until im 25. im still learning take that into cosideration before you try to demoralize someone.
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look you fucking idiot,you are on a PUBLIC board that has mention of THE USE OF ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES.and you want to put a real pic up and call me names for not.
and you put real pics up which is not impressive at all
so you say Im a pussy
YA I am a pussy because the first time I was in prison I didnt like it and wont go back again especially for something as stupid as this.

and all I was saying before you opened your yap was that you need to stop telling people to take Prohormones becuase you did and you got “huge”

I can give a shit what you and your little cronnies think of me.
you are no where ahead of me,besides I am not in competition with you or anyone else,
I demoralized you becuase your a fucking idiot.
I do not jump on people like this and i sure dont waste my time on dumb shit,but when you are advising a child to take dangerous chemicals becuase you did it once its shit like that that gets under my skin.

Damn. Why do these kids come on here asking for advice from experienced veterans and then proceed to just completely ignore it?

It’s like they think, “These old guys are just trying to keep me down mayeng”

No, actually, they are trying to help you maximize your long term gains and potential while simultaneously trying to save your health.

It’s all about the instant gratification I guess. I blame the parents.

shakes head

[quote]Nich wrote:
BFS wrote:
Nich wrote:
BFS wrote:
Nich wrote:
BFS wrote:
Nich wrote:
BFS wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
BFS wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
BFS wrote:
you probably can’t go wrong with a couple of cycles of RPN Havoc. Im 16 and i did one cycle. I had absolutey no side effects, just dry muscle. when i started i weighed 145 when i finished i weighed 170 and i droped down to 165 after i lost water weight due to creatine. my bench went from 205 to 245 and my power clean went from 205 to 220.

This is bad advice. Please don’t post more of the same.

Alright well enlighten me and explain why its bad advice

I’m going to ask the others here to chime in as well with the information I miss.

  1. At 16, the risk of permanent negative effects on the endocrine system is too large.

  2. There is a no way a 16 year old has achieved enough in the gym to justify a cycle.

  3. No mention of PCT

Wait did you even read the thread?

first of all, The risk of permanent endocrine system damage in increased with prolonged use of pro hormones: not one cycle. damage is very highly unlikely. second of all i used Bulgarian tribulus extract in a reverse pyramid dose pattern for PCT. I kept my all my gains.

I have to laugh at this ,it is so damned sad.

Please just stop.

what educational advice do you have to say about this man? im not on here to listen to you make yourself look good by dissing a 16 year old. i bet im way ahead of you you when you were 16. im on here to learn not listen to bull shit like that

I bet your a cocky little shit that thinks you know everything and infact knows nothing.
the only advise I can give is to shut up and read the posts around here,search function.
do ALOT less talking.

you and the OP are way too young both in time under the bar and out of the womb to even attempt any type of steroids or Pro hormones.

I am not here to force your hand away from the pills,if you feel so insecure about your own body and manhood tha tyou at 16 have to take a magic pill you be my guest atleast you wont be able to breed and make more dumb fuck,hiddious little chuds to plauge the earth and lower the collective IQ.

Isnt it past your bed time or is your baby sitter too busy banging the neighbor again?

shutup mother fucker. your an ignorant faggot. did that ego come with a cock in your mouth?
like i said already,do a simple search stop wasting space on the forums with your BS about PHs being safe for 16 year olds,

this shit has been brought up every month for the last umpteen years,and answered to death.

NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MINDS ADVOCATE THE USE OF AAS OR PRO HORMONES FOR CHILDREN.

at 16 you are a child plain and simple.

coming from someone who is too much of a pussy to put a real picturee up here… wow and this “child” is probably ahead and your roid sticking ass right now… o yea but thanks for that striking knowledge. i havent used a cycle since that one. i plan on building natural until im 25. im still learning take that into cosideration before you try to demoralize someone.

look you fucking idiot,you are on a PUBLIC board that has mention of THE USE OF ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES.and you want to put a real pic up and call me names for not.
and you put real pics up
so you say Im a pussy
YA I am a pussy because the first time I was in prison I didnt like it and wont go back again especially for something as stupid as this.

and all I was saying before you opened your yap was that you need to stop telling people to take Prohormones becuase you did and you got “huge”

I can give a shit what you and your little cronnies think of me.
you are no where ahead of me,besides I am not in competition with you or anyone else,
I demoralized you becuase your a fucking idiot.
I do not jump on people like this and i sure dont waste my time on dumb shit,but when you are advising a child to take dangerous chemicals becuase you did it once its shit like that that gets under my skin.

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hmm thats a damn shame becuse it sounds like that kid is going to juice wether its gets under your skin or not. some people dont listen and dont care but i actually have listened to u wether u believe it or not and i read the threads so chill out

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Nich theres no point in arguing with this kid, hes 16 he “knows” everything…

Forget the fact that qualified medical professionals, and people who have been studying and using steroids longer than hes been alive, disagree with him.

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Hes 160 pounds and change, lives with his parents and is still in highschool, hes obviously the authority on this subject.

[quote]Black Greg wrote:
Damn. Why do these kids come on here asking for advice from experienced veterans and then proceed to just completely ignore it?

It’s like they think, “These old guys are just trying to keep me down mayeng”

No, actually, they are trying to help you maximize your long term gains and potential while simultaneously trying to save your health.

It’s all about the instant gratification I guess. I blame the parents.

shakes head[/quote]

Amen. /thread

BFS, your maturity shows in your arguments with board Vets.

Trust me when I say that Nich has nothing to prove to you. And he could probably care less.

I did ask for him lashing out because i was a smart ass first.

honestly I would have done the same thing.

we both got our points across and he stands by his word I stand by mine you cant fault anyone for that.

he left this thread a lil smarter as did I so its a win win here…

And I would think were cool now even though he is still a douche :wink:

[quote]Nich wrote:
I did ask for him lashing out because i was a smart ass first.

honestly I would have done the same thing.

we both got our points across and he stands by his word I stand by mine you cant fault anyone for that.

he left this thread a lil smarter as did I so its a win win here…

And I would think were cool now even though he is still a douche :wink:
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thanks man you got to remember, im new to this forum process. i have never done this b4 so im learning i thought presenting an argument was a Good thing but i found out thats not so. i did not realize how serious you guys take this thing. but i have learned and hope to continue to. just because i don’t know much doesn’t mean im trying to like “ruin your forum or something” i just vioced what i knew and i got raped becuase of that… so by all means i will be sure not to get involved in the discussions anymore

[quote]Westclock wrote:
Nich theres no point in arguing with this kid, hes 16 he “knows” everything…

Forget the fact that qualified medical professionals, and people who have been studying and using steroids longer than hes been alive, disagree with him

Hes 160 pounds and change, lives with his parents and is still in highschool, hes obviously the authority on this subject.[/quote]

ok yea dude i agree with you i dont know much. and i shouldnt have posted that bc i don’t kno anything about it. sorry. im trying to learn


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might need some more…

there we go…3 cans…that should do the trick.

Now we can end the thread… lol

It all really depend on what your goal is. I know that a lot of world class olympic weightlifters start using anabolics at about 16-17 ,they ususally debut at junior worlds @ 17. already pushing big weights. By 18yo, they approches world record level. Turanabol,HGH is quite popular (depend on state funding) . Short acting test is basis drug. Once they reach peak performance, they will do 2 cycles per year, each cycle leading up to a comptetition.

So, if this 16 yo is doing steriods for professional purposes, then go for it. If you wanna compete with the big boys, you need to start cheating at a young age lol. other wise, wait untill you older.

we are not talking about world clas spowerlifters. we are not talking athletes that have promise of riches and endorsment deals.
we are talking about normal 16 year olds, normal 16 y/o with a fragile endocrine system,16/yos that started puberity no more than a few years prior.

I will sate this again incase you didnot get it.
it is a horrible idea for a child to take aas or prohormones.

its too much risk not enough reward, just work hard eat alot you can get ripped awithut drugs then mid 20s or so when you are done growing and you have reached your peak, then start looking into it, this is standard knowledge I have no idea where all these people are coming from. damnit…

thanks guys all this stuff really helps. But im just like everyone else wanting to get big as fast as i can. Is there any type of ph or aas you can take around 18 or so that wont do as much damage???

Look bro, i already gave you the answer you need on page 2 of this clusterfuck of a thread.

There are no AAS or PH cycles someone of your age can do safely. I have read stories from many kids like you that fucked themselves up asking for help on how to fix things cause they did an ill advised AAS or PH cycle at your age. Just don’t fucking do it.

I will say this one more time and hope you listen

AT YOUR AGE THE BEST AND ONLY THINGS YOU SHOULD BE USING IS PROTEIN, CREATINE, FISH OIL, MULTIVITAMIN/MULTIMINERAL, A SOLID DIET AND HARD TRAINING.

If you are really want to make the most of that you can throw in something like beta alanine, alpha lipoic acid, coq10, etc but the things listed above in conjuction with the fact that your test levels are already very high (as long as you are active and keep alcohol intake low) and you will add mass. just stick with it. sleep as much as possible and eat till it hurts. trust me, it works.

Now stop asking about gear and go lift!