Hey y’all,
I was just wondering, what are your opinions on what you think to be the best paper only combo for bulking up, with the most safety & the least side effects, as well as best retention of gains.
i would assume the best paper combo would be the same as any injectable combo as they are the same drugs after all… but this is just my guess.
[quote]Split wrote:
i would assume the best paper combo would be the same as any injectable combo as they are the same drugs after all… but this is just my guess.[/quote]
paper aren’t injectable.
so at least the best combo with paper should be the same best combo done with “traditional” oral
Yeah, these are good generalizations, but that was the whole point of my question. Out of all the steroids available in paper form that are oral, which is the best combination?
Here’s the range to choose from:
Dianabol
Anadrol
Halotestin
Primobolan
Stanozolol
Turinabol
Anavar
Mesterolone (Proviron)
I was thinking of perhaps taking Dianabol and Turinabol together. Or maybe throwing in some Primobolan with the stack as well.
I have not tried this yet but was thinking about 50mg of OT and 10mg of D together.
50mg of OT worked well for me so I might try this combo next time around.
[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
Yeah, these are good generalizations, but that was the whole point of my question. Out of all the steroids available in paper form, which are oral, which is the best combination?
Here’s the range to choose from:
Dianabol
Anadrol
Halotestin
Primobolan
Stanozolol
Turinabol
Anavar
Mesterolone (Proviron)
I was thinking of perhaps taking Dianabol and Turinabol together. Or maybe throwing in some Primobolan with the stack as well.[/quote]
This is a good combo. Forget about the Primo, to get any decent effect you will need a high dose, gets too expensive. The dosage suggested by another poster (50mg/10mg ED) is probably good for most people. No more than six weeks if you value your liver.
The Turinabol will give you good quality gains, the Dbol is good for mass but tends to put on a lot of water weight. With a lowish dose such as 10mg this would be kept somewhat in check. Get some Nolvadex as well to get your natural T levels back up after your cycle.
[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
Yeah, these are good generalizations, but that was the whole point of my question. Out of all the steroids available in paper form, which are oral, which is the best combination?
Here’s the range to choose from:
Dianabol
Anadrol
Halotestin
Primobolan
Stanozolol
Turinabol
Anavar
Mesterolone (Proviron)
I was thinking of perhaps taking Dianabol and Turinabol together. Or maybe throwing in some Primobolan with the stack as well.[/quote]
anadrol+winny
or anadrol+dbol
[quote]cadav wrote:
JohnnyBlaze wrote:
Yeah, these are good generalizations, but that was the whole point of my question. Out of all the steroids available in paper form, which are oral, which is the best combination?
Here’s the range to choose from:
Dianabol
Anadrol
Halotestin
Primobolan
Stanozolol
Turinabol
Anavar
Mesterolone (Proviron)
I was thinking of perhaps taking Dianabol and Turinabol together. Or maybe throwing in some Primobolan with the stack as well.
anadrol+winny
or anadrol+dbol
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I think turin and var will make a good stack.
[quote]rip2dhush wrote:
I think turin and var will make a good stack.[/quote]
as far as i know this is not an optimal bulking stack…
sound more like a “quality”/strenght stack to me…
just my 2 eurocent 
[quote]cadav wrote:
rip2dhush wrote:
I think turin and var will make a good stack.
as far as i know this is not an optimal bulking stack…
sound more like a “quality”/strenght stack to me…
just my 2 eurocent :)[/quote]
Read what the OP wanted. Sounds to me like this is what he wants, rather than a lot of bulk that is easily lost.
To JBlaze: there is always a tradeoff between the criteria you stated in your original post. For minimal side effects and gains that will be retained, OT and anavar are probably the best orals. But you will not put on a lot of mass. Some of the other orals will put more mass on you, but at the cost of either greater side effects (eg stanazol will adversely affect your lipid profile) or more bloat (eg dbol). It depends on what you have as the highest priority. If you are happy with quality gains but at a lesser level, stick with OT and anavar. Maybe throw in a small dose of something else as well.
Remember that because the OT or anavar greatly increase your strength, you will be able to stimulate your muscles to keep growing after your cycle has ended.
[quote]sharetrader wrote:
cadav wrote:
rip2dhush wrote:
I think turin and var will make a good stack.
as far as i know this is not an optimal bulking stack…
sound more like a “quality”/strenght stack to me…
just my 2 eurocent
Read what the OP wanted. Sounds to me like this is what he wants, rather than a lot of bulk that is easily lost.
To JBlaze: there is always a tradeoff between the criteria you stated in your original post. For minimal side effects and gains that will be retained, OT and anavar are probably the best orals. But you will not put on a lot of mass. Some of the other orals will put more mass on you, but at the cost of either greater side effects (eg stanazol will adversely affect your lipid profile) or more bloat (eg dbol). It depends on what you have as the highest priority. If you are happy with quality gains but at a lesser level, stick with OT and anavar. Maybe throw in a small dose of something else as well.
Remember that because the OT or anavar greatly increase your strength, you will be able to stimulate your muscles to keep growing after your cycle has ended.[/quote]
i agree with your post.
in the OP first message i read “bulk” and for my personal point of view bulking is “add a lot of mass”
BTW i quote all your post…
I guess it’s all about a trade-off between all out mass and quality gains. I think a combination of a mass steroid and a quality steroid would be the best. Originally, I wanted to do Supertest 450 for mass and strength, with Boldenone for appetite increase and slow quality gains. But I can’t get my hands on any stealth injectables, so will have to stick with paper products.
If I can alter the gist of the original post now, what is everyone’s personal favourite stack out of the steroid line-up mentioned above, and for what reasons, ie. what type of gains or favourable effects did you experience from the stack?
I dont know what kind of experience you guys have with aas, but anyone with knowledge about it will tell you that you do not mix two orals together without any test no matter what. Either you will kill your liver or shut yourself down.
There are oral combo options but definitelyl not a dbol and tbol combo. More like a primo or masteron with anavar.
If you guys are serious about aas you really need to do your research. To be honest this site isn’t the place to be doing your research for aas. I love this site and everything about it but its main focus is not aas and most of the users on here do not have a clue about it either.
If you are doing an all oral cycle to avoid injectables, perhaps you should consider doing a transdermal test base with it?
If you are worried about a legal source just convert some syno H to test base, and you don’t need the injectables, or any worries about customs or sources.
[quote]fatsuperman wrote:
If you are doing an all oral cycle to avoid injectables, perhaps you should consider doing a transdermal test base with it?
If you are worried about a legal source just convert some syno H to test base, and you don’t need the injectables, or any worries about customs or sources.
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That sounds pretty cool. Where would I go about finding the info on how to obtain the materials and do this?
syno h and fina h are cattle pellet implants, commonly used for “homebrewing” in the US. Not available legally in Australia.
[quote]sharetrader wrote:
syno h and fina h are cattle pellet implants, commonly used for “homebrewing” in the US. Not available legally in Australia.[/quote]
Ohh crap. I guess I’ll just have to go out and buy a racehorse so I can get a smooth supply of veterinary steroids. lol.