Are you also looking to be diagnosed and medicated for ADD / ADHD? It is really frustrating. As a person who believes I have ADD / ADHD, I don’t know how they expect individuals such as myself to get through the process lol.
I tend to agree. I think therapy could for sure supplement meds, but therapy by itself I have my doubts about. Like therapy could be used to get the patient to make schedules / plans while on meds, and that might help get the most out of the med. But I am not going to make the schedule without the meds.
Do you think an instant release for the afternoon dose might help with sleep? Maybe it doesn’t last long enough?
Yeah, I am not hyperactive. Maybe ADD, or just not interested in doing things that don’t interest me. Even if it is something I know I need to do, I don’t do it unless it is completely necessary.
Yep, I’ve suspected I’ve had it my whole life but never sought treatment until now. I’ve taken meds for other mental health issues and have had some substance abuse issues in the past, so my therapist went through all of that. But I’m doing the therapy under a psychologists umbrella thing too, she said she’ll meet with the psych before our next meeting a Monday from now.
The whole process is pretty opaque though, I had no expected time to medication, have no idea how much it will cost me and have no idea what/if anything I’ll be prescribed. I’m about done with it, at this point.
What I said in my first post, but maybe not in enough detail. When you go to your psychologist appt, tell them you have a hard time concentrating and often start things that you dont finish - or that you dont tend to matters that you really need to tend to. Then be direct and ask about ADD/ADHD - they will likely give you a questionairre (like the one I mentioned above) and if you score high on the test (not a good thing) then they will say you are likely a candidate for ADD/ADHD medication. You will still need to be seen by a psychiatrist to have it prescribed, and will probably have to do the whole thing over again - but that would usually be the end of it. IME once you are prescribed it, the ‘hurdle’ is gone and they will work with you to get you whichever drug it is you need to resolve these issues. I also wouldn’t jump on board with the therapy thing until after you try the meds (I know this is backwards) and see if you even need the therapy; if you have great insurance or dont mind spending the money for a therapist - then by all means go for it though. Therapy won’t help me with what I need the medication for, and I have anxiety as well - I just learned how to manage myself decently well.
I have little trouble falling asleep as I’m a hypersomniac (always tired) so I get 2 for 1 with Adderall lol. If I took the medication too much later (say 3:00), I would have trouble falling asleep around 9-10 that night, but otherwise it is designed to keep you alert (ie awake). I am a special case here because I need its’ effects basically from 4:30am to about 7:00pm, which is longer than the drugs’ effects - this is why I split dosages. The dosage split is highly unusual for most but it works for me in my current needs (it is also a pretty solid pre-workout if you like the focus).
If you want to try something similar to a lot of ADD/ADHD medications, get your hands on some DMAA. They are Nootropics, so the same family of smart-drugs, and an amphetamine derivative. 100mg max dose on DMAA I believe, but I would have to research more before putting full confidence in that number.
EDIT: @heretolog Please read over the posts I’ve made about this. The process isn’t as bad as it seems, but it didn’t feel that way when I first started it myself. If you are a candidate for treatment (based on the ADD/ADHD questionairre) then they should refer you to a psychiatrist who can prescribe the medications for you. You will still need to experiment with which ones work for you though - it takes some time and effort, but it is worth it IME.
I know for sure as a child I had a diagnosis. It is a huge PITA getting treatment for it. It is kinda like opioids. There are people who abuse them, and regulations have made it difficult for the people who actually need them to get them. It used to be you could go to your PCP and usually get them. Those days are gone.
This is giving me anxiety. Could cost a lot of money and time, and end up with nothing.
LOL, I have a $6K deductible. Honestly, money isn’t a problem though (at least I don’t think, not sure how much all this is gonna cost).
Oh, I know exactly what this is. No energy during the day. Racing thoughts and anxiety at night. Hard to fall asleep. One very big plus to the blast I have been on is that sleep has been great (at least for me). Less anxiety I think.
I believe that. I know a former meth addict, and he said the meth was amazing pre workout. Dude is also a beast. Really good genetics for power (can dunk at 5’10" and 230 lbs). Good for him he is clean now though.
DMAA was the ‘magic sauce’ to the original Jack3d formula. FDA un-banned it a few years ago. Not quite as strong as Addys or others, but certainly still gives similar feelings.
Bench 355x3 pr and was easy. Think I could have done 5
Bench 335 4x5
Chin 6x10
Narrow bench 275 3x8
Dip 2x15
Took it a little easy today, but felt strong. Just don’t want to push super hard when still sick. I feel I’m coming out of it though. Wore the mask, wasn’t too bad. Don’t like it though.
Was 220 lbs in gym clothes. In the same clothing, I was about 198 at the start of the blast. There is a bit of extra fat, but I don’t think I’m holding much water with E2 only being twice the top of the range. On cruise without adex, my E2 was about 10 points lower.
The tbol had kicked in I think. I’m going to try to really go once I’m feeling good. Been sick every other week lately though. Really sucks. Maybe immune system is low due to the blast.
About 3 weeks left. Really going to go for that 405 lb bench. If I could hit a 615 deadlift, I’d be pretty pumped.
After that, I’ll cruise while cutting a bit. Thinking of upping the cruise to 62.5 mg EOD (about 220 mg/wk). I’ll probably stay there awhile. Maybe another blast next winter?
Once I dabbled I’m the blasting, it’s times of thinking I just want to cruise, times of I want to blast and times of considering going full boar. Not going to do another in for almost a year for sure. More often than not, it’s wanting to cruise though.
Underwhelmed is true, but progress is certainly much better. IDK, I don’t think I’d ever cruise more than 250 mg/wk, but I have hope I can hold more muscle cruising with the use of a few more blasts.
Hopefully. Sticking to losing weight and some strength is tough for me.
Yeah, kinda me too! It’s awesome seeing the results cutting fast. You hold more on cruise / trt because no test drop, and it’s probably higher than average levels too. Plus, a mini blast of something like tbol or anavar puts the old muscle that was lost right back on.
My thoughts as well. I’ve thought about keeping 100mg/wk of primo in there as well. Or maybe even an oral at a low dose. Not sure what I’ll do yet but I’m dead set on the suicide cut
I think what’s optimal for cutting (slow and steady), isn’t optimal for everyone. My successful cuts are usually pretty fast. Even the slow ones I’ve tried, I lose for a month, then stall out. When you got muscle memory and aas on your side, I think fast cuts can make sense.
Did legs today. Still a bit under the weather. Felt really fatigued and got a headache mid workout. Still keeping the workouts a bit brief.
Belt squat 425 5x10
Leg extension 190 3x12
Leg curl 175 3x10
Hoping to feel good soon. Being sick sucks a lot, and I’ve been sick a lot lately.
A lot of (reputable) people say to cut for 2,4,6 week increments and take 2 weeks off in between. There’s a good bit of research to back the 2 week-on 2 week-off (MATADOR) method. Also a fair bit of research about the G-Flux method (increase calories burned by 1000/day, increase calories consumed by 500/day).
Mike Isratel is a proponent of the 4-6 week on and 2 week off method if memory serves. Helps stave off adaptive thermogenesis to a degree.
I’ve listened to a lot of Mike Isratel, I think I remember some of that.
I think there is a lot of merit in just not getting more fat than could be lost in a couple months. I don’t need to be shredded, but staying sorta lean goes a long way. Maybe staying in condition that you look great in a shirt. If I’m getting where I look sloppy in a shirt, it’s not gonna happen in 4 weeks to be lean. Kinda always having at least ab outline. I’m kinda on that line ATM honestly. But 3 weeks left. Hopefully I get the big benching out of my system and switch over to looking great for summer.
I’m about to find this out for myself. I’ve never been lean and carry fat extremely weird. It’ll be VERY interesting to see how long it takes me to get fairly lean
