I can’t believe you have the audacity to argue with someone has helped 3k men. 10,000 labs.
Read it again. I have seen 10,000 labs, but you think I should listen to you on proper TRT protocols?
Hold on rounding up more labs.
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Some guys feel great on cycle, I know some of them. Yet this is too relative. Others I know feel horrible and they make similar cycles - deca + test + something else
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Who is arguing? I am looking for fucking clarification. You don’t get ascribed respect on an anonymous forum and since you joined 8 weeks ago your “word” get you even less respect.
You say things like, “I know you guys wanna make everything cut and dry but unfortunately thats not how it works.”
But then you try to draw a line as to what constitutes “a cycle”. Which is it? Is everyone different or not? I don’t much care to look over your labs because your proof means nothing to me. I have no idea who these people are. I do know that they are not me.
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This guy, not too much T for him. Are you starting to understand yet?
Hold on I got more, I can do this ALL day long, cause I have seen 10,000 labs. So if you guys want to nitpick everything I say and not find my posts valuable, then don’t read them.
You don’t test SHBG? Also I assume the men in these last two labs were on an aromatase inhibitor?
NO why would you ever need to test SHBG?
Remember our medical director is not some chump off the street who has a small practice, he was the board director of 3 hospitals in his day and spent most of his early career in the ER.
He is the first line of defense against heart disease and diabetes and he has seen it all, and he has no problem telling you that you are a ticking time bomb if your labs look like the first one I posted.
But hold on let me get some more cause you still don’t get that I am not talking out of my ass.
Our other doctor is URO in NY and has been treating hypogonadism FOR 27 YEARS. I guess I should listen to @dbossa instead of him?
LOLOL
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Not too much T for this guy, guess what both guys have in common? They are both in their early 30’s
Let me reiterate. I have seen over 10,000 labs. So when I say something, it is from my EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE and there is a reason I said it.
Now. Use your brain for a minute and think about what I said.
“People who have used AAS before and that have ASIH have more risk”
So is it fair to say, that if you keep running a 450 Free T that you are going to be one of those guys who can not tolerate a high amount of exo T soon?
But hey WTF do I know !!! ??? I have only seen 10k labs on 3k different people!!
What about the Anabolic Doc? He was around when I showed up. These docs @dbossa is talking about I have never heard of before.
The guy literally makes a living off fixing peoples lipids that have used AAS. Ask him if its ok to run supra for 5 years and see what he tells you.
Oh, you are referring to my coach, phsiologik. He is an endocrinologist. He is ok with my numbers and has helped a lot of people though his different practices. He was the real push in this forum to rethink AIs and the damage they do. His death toll must really be ramping up based on your information.
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If your ^^^^ this guy and keep doing what your doing you are going to be / / / this guy soon.
Oh and here is another. Isn’t it strange that low testosterone does the SAME EXACT thing to your lipids as supra-physiological levels of T?
I wonder if it is as good for you as testosterone deficiency is!!! Who could have guessed??
I actually died because of Physio’s advice. This is Iron’s ghost that’s been posting the last two months.
*You’re
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Tell our medical director physiologik said it was ok when you wind up in the ER with kidney failure and hypertension, if he is working the shift.
Oh and @NH_Watts I noticed your HCT is only 43 right? Isn’t that pretty low for someone with such a high free T? Must be a blessing.
Why are my kidneys failing again? I missed that part, on account of being dead.
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Blessings are for the spiritual which has little room in science.
@NH_Watts did u ever create a fb account to join d bossa and crew? Like u I don’t have a fb account and did not want to create one but will just for TRT info.
I have a FB account I suspended 3 years ago. So it exists but is dormant. I might consider reviving it but more than likely will create another anon one as to not draw attention from other friends. Just need to create a new email addy.
My days in here are numbered. Just not getting what I want from the group. Not worth all my reading time to not learn or help anyone.
There are a couple of guys on here that are just bad for this community. U and I and some vets can probably spot the misinformation, but all the new guys joining…
Just sucks when you have self proclaimed trt experts. We know how that ended up with ksman. Bad bad advice and they dont want to hear any opposing info and experiences.
And further there will always be that advice that always comes tainted with AAS and cycle backgrounds.
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