What is a good time to take bloodwork?
Per my previous post “judge my bloods” those were done 3 days after my last t shot and two days after my HCG.
I’m guessing my levels will be lower and more “in line” if I do it 7-10 days after?
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It depends what your injection frequency is. If once weekly then get bloods on the 7th day when you would normally take a shot (but before you take the shot). This will show your levels at their lowest point so you can see where your trough is. If more frequent then substitute the number.
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There should be a TRT fight night posted live online between @increasemyt & @dbossa with all proceeds going to the TRT related research of the winners choice. I feel like enough people would want to see it that we could make enough money to cure cancer at this point. Since Joe Rogan is on TRT he may be willing to be the commentator.
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What are your symtoms? I’m at 12ng/DL which is in range but have low libido, weak erections, some depression, anxiety, fatigue, it’s not an acceptable way to live. I’m only 24 and I refuse to go much longer feeling like I’m 75.
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Similar. My libido some days is pretty decent others is shit, but seems like you have ten times more free testosterone with 12 ng/dl. I don’t understand this and don’t know how to compare this values.
My total is 600, bioavailable is 4.6 with highest possible in range being 10. That’s the best comparison. I could double my bioavailable and still be in range
My total was 500 and something last time. I think there is a huge difference in how our free test is measured.
17ng/l is not 2% but more like 0.2% and I dont know what my lab is measuring honestly. I am frustrated that I dont understand this important value so I will go by the total.
I think we need total of at least 1000 to feel fine
There’s free T calculators online that can convert from different units. You just need total T, SHGB, and albumin levels
I agree though, total over 1000 at least probably. Won’t know till we get it there
So are you going to start and what are your thoughts on fertility?
I plan to freeze sperm but in my country they say they can keep it effective frozen only up to five years?! Not sure what technology for freezing they use compared to USA
I’m in Canada. Plans for fertility still not really figured out. Might just go for pct with Clomid when necessary. If HCG works then fuck it why not
Meant to reply there
How old are we talking here since you told me the reason I feel so good is because my free T is so high?
It really depends. I know you guys wanna make everything cut and dry but unfortunately thats not how it works.
A 50 year with a history of AAS who has ASIH is going to have huge problems with a free T that high. Are there exceptions to this? Absolutely.
A 50 year old who has never done anything maybe be able to handle it.
My point in saying that is that a lot of guys get on TRT, and report feeling great for the first 8 weeks, and then report a decline in well being. These people specifically, usually benefit from a lowered dosage.
So yea you feel great cause you are on a cycle of T.
Interesting comment. I know many older men That need a free t above 20 and closer to 30 or more. Why? Because lower didn’t work for them until they raised their dose.
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And you know what, since you guys think I am talking out of my ass, give me a minute I will post some labs to show you what I mean.
This is something we do EVERY DAY
My opinion - From all read seems like everyone is unique and need different dosage. Everyone’s adrogen receptors are differently plugged with EDC. So I dont know how can we can say what is physiological and what supra. Well of course if you run 2000mg per week like a friend of mine for 2 years you are not on TRT 
For example I have a total T of 500-600(free t is measured in a very strange way so cannot compare it to your US values), and Im not on TRT, have the symptoms and consider starting. When @systemlord was on TRT he said he was targeting 500-600 as well and he felt best there. You see, huge difference. Unfortunately its difficult to put that in a box, I wish we could because I’m IT guy and like to put everything in borders and logical place
It’s amazing when folks argue and then mention something that shows us they really have no clue what is being stated. It’s hilarious correct.
WAY TOO mh fucking T for this guy? You guys get it yet?
@dbossa Would probably call these labs good lol
Hold I am not done I got 10,000 labs guise, I kno0w you guys have seen 5 in your whole life, but wait let me show you some more.
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I don’t hang out on the Pharma forum much but the time that I have been over there you don’t get my guys who are doing 600mg - 1g+ of T saying they feel great. “Feeling good” is not usually a component of steroid cycles. Are you saying that when they did their first cycles they probably felt amazing?