I hear ya man but I try to keep the balance and give my personal perspective of what Ive learned. Thats all we can do. I get that its a time suck sometimes, I can’t keep up, but if I can interject here and there to get some questions flowing then thats good.
Probably like alphagunner… U end up wanting your account deleted because this place becomes “addictive” to read. So you delete the account so you can’t log back in. Lol.
Ive pulled back about 50% these days. Some days I can catch up for a few hours but other times I can’t even look for weeks.
This is EXACTLY why you shouldn’t cop out and turn tail.
The arguments here are very stupid and counterproductive sometimes, but believe it or not they are VERY beneficial for new guys…Why?
At the very least, even if they don’t understand all of the scientific argument mumbo jumbo (I don’t even understand a lot of it myself), it raises a red flag that they are looking at two very conflicting viewpoints, on two extreme sides of the fence.
Eventually, the hard leftists and hard right-leaning finally get past the dick measuring phase, people like you and I can bring a laymen’s summary and find a semi educated opinion that lands somewhere in the middle. It’s GOOD for new guys to see this, because they know by seeing it that there is a such thing as too much, and also too little…
I would much rather someone find themselves in a SAFE middle of the road area, at least until they figure some things out for themselves, than to listen to one extreme or another, and have some unique one off issue that they don’t even know about that complicates their journey, or even worse, causes them unforeseen harm.
The middle-grounders are the ones who bring clarity to the new guys for the most part man. That’s why you should stay.
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I get you. Am not deleting my account. Will log out for a few months. If no desire to come back then adios.
It’s a question of time. I love to help people in general. Takes too much time on here though with all the BS to read. I may rather spend my time elsewhere. As we all know time is precious. I will continue to read other material to continue educating myself and stay updated.
Bun through the roof? Can’t get your EGFR off the floor?
Who cares! Thats just cause you work out a lot, as long as you feel good, go for it! ~ Dbossa
Can you explain more?
He was a zealot about keeping E2 between 20 and 30, I’ve read he has preached it like a gospel and now we know it’s a total bullshit
I wouldn’t go that far to say its bullshit.
For KSMAN, and others he knew, this was a good range for them where they felt best.
E2 is very very subjective in feel based upon the person.
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Lets not open pandora box again man, people will start shooting each other…
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It’s not really a Pandora’s box though.
E2 levels are subjective. And really, how can we tell KSMAN he’s wrong at the levels he was holding when he himself felt great there?
I just think it’s the wrong approach to tell new guys that ONLY E2 high out of range will work. The correct knowledge should be try different levels and see what feels best for YOU.
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He has been telling everyone that he needs to keep his levels there with AI. Do you see where he was wrong?
No. I don’t. HE (ksman) found his “dialed in” E2 range at around 22. That’s where he felt good. It’s all subjective (based on the individual)
Anyway, I’m not getting into this debate.
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Man, you don’t get my point yet.
I cannot tolerate fish oil, I get sick from it. Should I tell you don’t eat fish oil?
Whether one should use AI is totally different topic, but I don’t even touch it with these comments…
No, I get your point. anastrazole is bad.
Some think otherwise.
I really hope when you do finally start TRT you don’t have E2 issues. You’ll know what I’m talking about.
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Bro, this is not my point try again. My point is not about AI. Read my previous post…
Because he was, objectively, wrong. He wasn’t telling people what made him feel better, he was telling them what would make everyone feel better. He was, by your own definition of a subjective number, wrong. It’s ok to call a spade a spade.
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Did I said it unclear ?
Not at all. But people want to stand up for KS because he was a presence here and tried to help a lot of people and I can respect that.
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It’s wasn’t just him that felt better. There were other posters that liked that range.
The BIG picture here is there isn’t a one size fits all approach to E2. Its SUB JECT TIVE.
I need to get working guys. Plus this is a dumb debate. Like most on here.