I would be extremely surprised if you did receive a response for that request my friend…
We have found several docs all over the US who understand this properly and were trained by Dr Rouzier. However, Montana hasn’t been one of them so far. I will definitely keep you posted.
@anon18050987 all good. We will agree to disagree.
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Agreeing to disagree has nothing whatsoever to do with me saying I believe I am wrong. I don’t. I just don’t have anything further to say on the subject that I haven’t already said. However, if you are adamant of wanting to prove your point to everyone else, you can by all means join our group and create a post on the subject as you will definitely have a lot of activity in that thread with people significantly more qualified than I am.
Because that’s what is happening with docs who prescribe phlebotomies. This is where it came from. You recognize the difference that’s good.
You don’t need to worry about hct and go on this wild protocol friend. Just let the body do as it wills when you give it T. Find a dose that resolves symptoms and improves the blood markers. Hct is oxygen in the blood.
Viscosity and having a blood clot is not
Occurring due to trt. That’s what they are trying to clarify.
Did you see my post on androgen receptors and the video I posted? There are not any absorption issues and the receptors do not diminish or lower in sensitivity. Sure I haven’t been on it long. Sure I thought the same as you, but I believe in my providers and the information provided. There is no such thing as desensitized receptors in men. There is such a thing as EDCs and toxins that cause men to need more T though. Watch that video I posted it here or in another post I created. If that’s not good enough education do me a favor and please find me a study to backup this belief that we are desensitized as we take trt for decades or more? Doctor Jeffery R was on a video with jay Campbell last week I think. Contact him. He’s in our group and he will tell you how many decades he’s been doing trt and how high his free t had been since then. He has zero issues and is still taking a good dose. The man doesn’t give blood. He doesn’t try to keep estrogen low. He’s healthy and an older gentlemen with decades of experience.
My doc is 166.66 a month but that’s l an annual fee / 12 months. You get labs and consults for the year without any additional fees and a years worth of scripts. They ask you if you want anything specific added to labs. If you still want to test e2 and all that jazz they will order it for ya. After year 1 this price drops by 25%.
That’s cheap and that’s not the nickel and dime business clinics run. Night and day difference. You speak to a doc not a underling who doesn’t know much of much.
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A high hematocrit with a high RBC count and high hemoglobin indicates polycythemia. Some causes of a high hematocrit include: Dehydration—this is the most common cause of a high hematocrit . … Polycythemia vera—a rare disease in which the body produces excess RBCs inappropriately.Jun 23, 2015
Just wondering what you think on this, let’s say a healthy 19 year old guy had total T at 1500 and free T at 40. Obviously he’s above range but it’s certainly possible. Do you think he’d have around the same e2 as a guy on TRT with the same total and free T numbers? Obviously no two ppl are the same, but I’m thinking the guy on TRT would have e2 over range, would the healthy 19 year old theoretically also have e2 over range?
This list below is what freaks me out letting my E2 get super high:
Here’s a list of the median estradiol levels by age, as established by the authors of a study that appeared in the journal Clinical Endocrinology:
•Age 2-29: 28.0 pg/ml
•Age 30-39: 25.7 pg/ml
•Age 40-49: 24.7 pg/ml
•Age 50-59: 22.1 pg/ml
•Age 60-69: 21.5 pg/ml
•Age 70-80: 21.9 pg/ml
Yes because his body converts the same amount to e2 due to his shbg and other factors. Bio identical hormones act the same as naturally produced hormones.
@anon18050987 the avoidance is in your court at this point. I mentioned earlier that I have said everything I can say on the subject. I then said if you are adamant of wanting to prove your point to everyone else, you can by all means join our group and create a post on the subject as you will definitely have a lot of activity in that thread with people significantly more qualified than I am. You will find the types of guys that you would enjoy this kind of debate with. It’s just not something I’m interested in.
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Your SHBG is not near as high as his is. This actually proves the point that each individual case is going to have factors that make everything different.
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@roscoe88 these men are not on TRT… it’s not the same thing.
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So let’s argue about how to do something when in reality no two people are going to get the same results from the same protocol. I don’t get all the bitching (in general, not directed to you)
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What were your pre TRT symtoms? Meant to send this to reply to you earlier. I also have 600 total T and I’m symtomatic. Not sure if it’s relevant but my e2 is at 35
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E2 is not relevant. The total T of 600 is. I don’t know anyone with no symptoms with a total of 600. I’m guessing your free will be about 10. Free is the only real concern here.
Im still back on posts from 21 hours ago and Im all
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Free is 12. It’s funny though because on paper 600 is a pretty decent number and many would say I’m crazy for considering TRT. I’m still about 20lbs overweight so I’m gonna lose that first, try to clean up diet even further and increase excercise. Then see how I feel and get my levels rechecked. Don’t wanna have to do TRT self prescribed but if I have to I will
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