[quote]Babylat wrote:
Serious question for all the guys that are supportive of this type of thing.
Would you be willing to date/have sex with a guy who had the operation to get their balls cut off and penis cut and tucked into a vagina?[/quote]
You can be supportive without having to date/have sex with someone.
also
[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
to get back on topic.
rehanb_bl, after surgery, how long will recovery take? not just to lifting again but to being able to walk comfortably, drive, and such?[/quote]
I think after SRS it’s like 3 weeks or something, lifting probably a bit more but for now I’m not even lifting to lose the mass.[/quote]
are you freezing any sperm in case your girlfriend(significant other) and you decide to have children?
[quote]razzberry09 wrote:
I’m OP’s fiancee and yes I can definitely say that our relationship is far from boring. We had been together for 2.5 years when he (I’m using male pronouns since he still presents as a male) told me that he’s transgender and obviously it was a huge surprise given that he lifts, plays rugby, and was just all-around super masculine. That being said, he’s always been very sensitive and more caring than I figure the average guy is but there were still never any clues. When he told me, I wasn’t angry at all, I was just very sad that he had to keep such a big secret to himself for so long and that despite all the suffering he’s endured, he’s still an awesome person. I was also sad because I had to let go of the idea I had in my head of what our life would look like, but I was quickly able to create a new picture, one that I knew I could be happy with. Lots of people have told me I should feel deceived but I just don’t; I think that as soon as he was truly honest with himself about the fact that the way he felt one not change, he knew he had to tell me and so that’s what he did.
This is not about OP becoming a different person, it’s about the rest of the world looking at him and seeing him the way he’s always seen himself. He’s the kindest, most helpful person you could ever hope to meet and I know that won’t change. I am a bit worried for him since he’s going from the top of the social hierarchy to the bottom of it but so far everyone he has told has been very supportive. People I’ve told about my decision to stay in the relationship have been less kind; they think I should cut my losses and move on but you don’t stop loving someone just because they aren’t exactly who you thought they were (ask any couple that’s been together long enough). It’s kind of like winning the lottery with computer-generated numbers rather than the lucky ones you always choose…are you going to be pissed because you won with numbers you didn’t choose or are you going to move on and be happy since you did win the jackpot after all.
I understand that not everyone in my position would be as flexible as I am and I think that’s okay. If my sexual orientation were exclusively heterosexual then this could never work but luckily I’ve always been quite physically attracted to women and if society wants to label me a lesbian I’m fine with it even though I don’t identify as one. My life isn’t going to fit into a neat little box and I am genuinely fine with that because I know that normal doesn’t necessarily equal happy.
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Wow. You are an amazing and unique girl. I suppose the fact that you have bisexual leanings really works to your advantage here. When everything else is stripped away, it really just comes down to two people loving each other. I don’t understand why anyone would have a problem with that even if it’s not a choice that they can understand or would make themselves.
And to the other posters here: why feed the fire of those who are so vehemently abusive about the situation? No need to encourage further intolerance. There’s no question this is an abnormal relationship (abnormal from the standpoint of not fitting society’s norms and not being in line with the human purpose of propagating the species), but it’s two consenting adults whose decision is rooted in love. So how can that possibly be threatening to anyone?
Again, I wish you both the best of luck in navigating this journey together.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
O_O!
I thought you were Chushin!
Your avatars kind of look the same at first glance!
My point still stands. [/quote]
HA ha ha!
Appreciate you working me into the “discussion,” O.
But this clown is a waste of oxygen. Let it go.[/quote]
I saw something red on black being all adult and reasonable so naturally I assumed…
Blinded by the mud I was…
[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
to get back on topic.
rehanb_bl, after surgery, how long will recovery take? not just to lifting again but to being able to walk comfortably, drive, and such?[/quote]
I think after SRS it’s like 3 weeks or something, lifting probably a bit more but for now I’m not even lifting to lose the mass.[/quote]
You mentioned earlier in the thread you want to begin lifting again for strength after your transition. Do you plan on working through a body feminization program before that?
I assume after your hormone levels are that of a woman, you can begin lifting as you previously did, and your body will respond as a woman’s would.
Have a non-workout related question. Are you going to work with a speech therapist to change your voice as well? The thought came up because I learned a while ago men and women have differences in their vocal range and subtle patterns when they speak.
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
to get back on topic.
rehanb_bl, after surgery, how long will recovery take? not just to lifting again but to being able to walk comfortably, drive, and such?[/quote]
I think after SRS it’s like 3 weeks or something, lifting probably a bit more but for now I’m not even lifting to lose the mass.[/quote]
are you freezing any sperm in case your girlfriend(significant other) and you decide to have children?[/quote]
did that today, out of all the things I thought would be weird about this journey this felt strangely awkward.
Jerking off in a room in the middle of strangers… not the ideal setting
[quote]fncj wrote:
You mentioned earlier in the thread you want to begin lifting again for strength after your transition. Do you plan on working through a body feminization program before that?
I assume after your hormone levels are that of a woman, you can begin lifting as you previously did, and your body will respond as a woman’s would.
Have a non-workout related question. Are you going to work with a speech therapist to change your voice as well? The thought came up because I learned a while ago men and women have differences in their vocal range and subtle patterns when they speak.[/quote]
I will have to do voice training and possibly voice surgery (they can do thaT)
I will just be losing all the weight (down to 150) hormones will take care of the rest
[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
to get back on topic.
rehanb_bl, after surgery, how long will recovery take? not just to lifting again but to being able to walk comfortably, drive, and such?[/quote]
I think after SRS it’s like 3 weeks or something, lifting probably a bit more but for now I’m not even lifting to lose the mass.[/quote]
are you freezing any sperm in case your girlfriend(significant other) and you decide to have children?[/quote]
did that today, out of all the things I thought would be weird about this journey this felt strangely awkward.
Jerking off in a room in the middle of strangers… not the ideal setting[/quote]
well, we know you were never in the military!
[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
So this is a pretty “Ballsy” move I’m doing here but interesting at the same time.
Recently in my life there have been some events that changed life as I know it. To start with the backstory.
I have had an issue I have been dealing with since about age 3, I can vividly remember the feelings I used to have. Since then I have been dealing with the issue on and off with varying degrees of success. Two fridays ago it finally reached a peak (again I tried previously when I was 14) and I wrote a suicide not to my brother and took off in the car.
Later on the cops caught me coming out of a truckstop on the 401 (highway) with a rope and they found the other note I wrote for my parents and my fiancee in the car. I was taken to Mental Health Assessment at the hospital and had to see a psychiatrist. My parents also got there and well since I was close to rock bottom I told them about the issue along with everyone else.
The reason why I tried to kill myself is because I am transgendered. As I am sure most people can understand why a person would want to kill themselves, you are always judged and discriminated against, you are viewed as sub human and a lot of times beat up. being transgendered has a 41% suicide rate and that is only those who report it.
I know a lot of people view this as being a freak and some view it as a choice. Why would someone willingly subject themselves to a life of hardships? the answer is because the alternative is worse. I did try everything to “cure” it or make it go away. I tried not caring and just ate myself intro oblivion.
I tried drinking, drinking 2 bottles of whiskey for a year while I lived in england. I tried being ubermasculine bulking up to 275 lbs with 19" arms and some very decent lift numbers. None of it worked, it just came back all the same which led me to wanting to end my life.
Having to come out has by far been the hardest thing i’ve done in my life. Telling my fiancee almost crushed me. It requires a certain amount of balls (pun intended). I have chosen to continue with transition otherwise I will find myself where I was that Friday night or worse. It will be a very hard time in my life but I have faith that things will get better.
I come from a family where growing up was hard. They have been accepting and as long as I stay in this world they can deal with the rest. So in short yeh, if anyone has ever wondered about it and had questions now is a good time to ask. Also no jokes are off limits, I still have a freaking sense of humour.[/quote]
Hey, I just wanted to say, you are going to face discrimination and bigotry, maybe even in this thread, but what you have to remember is, fuck anyone who has a problem with you doing what you need to do to be happy.
My favourite pornstar is Bailey jay. Are you going to keep your dick or get a vagina? Can you pick a model or style or is it like how you can’t chose your bicep peak, you have a long tie in or short? I think you should keep the cock but get everything else done, that way you can still cum and wee standing up.
Are you into guys or girls? it would be cool to put some pics up now and then others once the transformation is complete.
Are you still in England? what are your options as far as the NHS paying for surgery? I hope all the tax I pay goes to your new cracking tits than to some bullshit war.
Also, I think I spam for us all when I say, we expect boob pics once you have them or it never happened 
Good luck and kudos for being a badass motherfucka!
[quote]The Greek wrote:
Just thought I’d leave this here:
“Never forget what you are. The rest of the world will not. Wear it like armor, and it can never be used to hurt you.”
Good luck and stay strong. [/quote]
Just started reading this thread now. I immediately thought of this quote. Good post.
As one of the very few here on T-Nation that is gender dysmorphic, it is nice to find
a kindered soul. You who where born “normal” have no idea what it is like to be a mutant (think X-man)
I have been tested three times over for IQ and have come up low gifted all three times.
I live on the edge of society, as most of society both frustrates and bores the hell out of me.
As for those who do not know, yet do not want to continue as inconsiderate twats, Why the hell would
someone want to “choose” to live a life that gets so bullied and ridiculed as we the mutants do.
I do like being a mutant and do not see it as any sort of negative connotation, fwiw.
[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
As one of the very few here on T-Nation that is gender dysmorphic, it is nice to find
a kindered soul. You who where born “normal” have no idea what it is like to be a mutant (think X-man)
I have been tested three times over for IQ and have come up low gifted all three times.
I live on the edge of society, as most of society both frustrates and bores the hell out of me.
As for those who do not know, yet do not want to continue as inconsiderate twats, Why the hell would
someone want to “choose” to live a life that gets so bullied and ridiculed as we the mutants do.
I do like being a mutant and do not see it as any sort of negative connotation, fwiw.
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“Normal” is a very abused word. it is often used as a targeting device to create fear, disgust, and hatred.
I can’t imagine what you and rehanb_bl are going through but when I was young being a mixed race child put me squarely in the crosshairs. I know about not being “normal” and that is why I jumped time when some comments were made.
I doubt that you and rehanb_bl will find a general societal acceptance in your lifetimes but know that some of us accept you now.
[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
As one of the very few here on T-Nation that is gender dysmorphic, it is nice to find
a kindered soul. You who where born “normal” have no idea what it is like to be a mutant (think X-man)
I have been tested three times over for IQ and have come up low gifted all three times.
I live on the edge of society, as most of society both frustrates and bores the hell out of me.
As for those who do not know, yet do not want to continue as inconsiderate twats, Why the hell would
someone want to “choose” to live a life that gets so bullied and ridiculed as we the mutants do.
I do like being a mutant and do not see it as any sort of negative connotation, fwiw.
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It could be a truly fascinating discussion and SHOULD BE an opportunity to support some people who have been dealt a really tuff hand in life.
[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
As one of the very few here on T-Nation that is gender dysmorphic, it is nice to find
a kindered soul. You who where born “normal” have no idea what it is like to be a mutant (think X-man)
I have been tested three times over for IQ and have come up low gifted all three times.
I live on the edge of society, as most of society both frustrates and bores the hell out of me.
As for those who do not know, yet do not want to continue as inconsiderate twats, Why the hell would
someone want to “choose” to live a life that gets so bullied and ridiculed as we the mutants do.
I do like being a mutant and do not see it as any sort of negative connotation, fwiw.
[/quote]
well my point exactly, no one would willingly choose to be discriminated against
btw shoot me a pm!
I’m still here to answer questions
It’s sometimes hard to see myself as a woman because I’ve gone so far to the masculine side I can’t envision it but with the weightloss etc it’s slowly becoming more visible
I’m not sure if this was asked or not but have you gotten any “professional help” about this? Spoken to any psychiatrists or psychologists or anything? Have you tried getting down to the root of your whole situation? (If that even is a thing lol)
Did you experience any sexual abuse, that you know of, as a young child?
So you identify as a woman and are attracted to women?
I’m glad you didn’t kill yourself. That’s not the answer and I’m glad that you seem happier now than before.
rehanb_bl, before you remove that “dangly thing”, are you going to make a copy of it? they have kits that make a mold and create a plastic replica so it can be left behind when guys go on a trip.
you can do that, take the replica to an art foundry, and have a bronze casting made. have it mounted on a block of marble. after you recover from the surgery, and your friends and family come over for your party you can walk out and say " you know how people bronze baby shoes? look what I did!"
Hey, SilverBlood. Thanks for the words of encouragement : )
Did not ever consider the “Bronzing” of the equipment, but that is damned funny !
[quote]gregron wrote:
I’m not sure if this was asked or not but have you gotten any “professional help” about this? Spoken to any psychiatrists or psychologists or anything? Have you tried getting down to the root of your whole situation? (If that even is a thing lol)
Did you experience any sexual abuse, that you know of, as a young child?
So you identify as a woman and are attracted to women?
I’m glad you didn’t kill yourself. That’s not the answer and I’m glad that you seem happier now than before.[/quote]
No sexual abuse or anything similar as a child, not even in the slightest
This sort of thing has a far bigger biological base.
Read about the Reimer brothers (famous canadian case study) where they tried doing the reverse by making a non trans person trans
I am amongst other things attracted to women yes
[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Hey, SilverBlood. Thanks for the words of encouragement : )
Did not ever consider the “Bronzing” of the equipment, but that is damned funny !
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no problem.
glad you liked my suggestion.
You know, despite your situation, it seems like you two are happier than most. Sounds like you two are lucky to have each other.
Good luck with everything.
