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[quote]silverblood wrote:
rehanb_bl, before you remove that “dangly thing”, are you going to make a copy of it? they have kits that make a mold and create a plastic replica so it can be left behind when guys go on a trip.
you can do that, take the replica to an art foundry, and have a bronze casting made. have it mounted on a block of marble. after you recover from the surgery, and your friends and family come over for your party you can walk out and say " you know how people bronze baby shoes? look what I did!"[/quote]

Pickle jar.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]silverblood wrote:
rehanb_bl, before you remove that “dangly thing”, are you going to make a copy of it? they have kits that make a mold and create a plastic replica so it can be left behind when guys go on a trip.
you can do that, take the replica to an art foundry, and have a bronze casting made. have it mounted on a block of marble. after you recover from the surgery, and your friends and family come over for your party you can walk out and say " you know how people bronze baby shoes? look what I did!"[/quote]

Pickle jar.[/quote]

it’ll look small and wrinkly in there not proud and majestic as it would like to be remembered!!
that also would not allow you to hand it to people, who would invariably touch or stroke it, and then see the look on their faces as they realize what they’re doing.

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[quote]razzberry09 wrote:
People I’ve told about my decision to stay in the relationship have been less kind; they think I should cut my losses and move on but you don’t stop loving someone just because they aren’t exactly who you thought they were (ask any couple that’s been together long enough). [/quote]

Thanks for the post.

I’ll be honest, I’m more interested in your perspective through this than OP’s. While he (for now) will face much more of an open battle with society, you on the other hand will have all your battles be much more private and between the two of you.

You guys really, really need to write a book. Just keep logs, and be super honest in them, and then have a writer (assuming neither of you have the time or ability) weave the tale from the two journals.

Not only will your experiences help other people understand by seeing the world through your lenses, but it will help others in your position as well. Shit, you might end up on Oprah too. lol

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]razzberry09 wrote:
People I’ve told about my decision to stay in the relationship have been less kind; they think I should cut my losses and move on but you don’t stop loving someone just because they aren’t exactly who you thought they were (ask any couple that’s been together long enough). [/quote]

Thanks for the post.

I’ll be honest, I’m more interested in your perspective through this than OP’s. While he (for now) will face much more of an open battle with society, you on the other hand will have all your battles be much more private and between the two of you.

You guys really, really need to write a book. Just keep logs, and be super honest in them, and then have a writer (assuming neither of you have the time or ability) weave the tale from the two journals.

Not only will your experiences help other people understand by seeing the world through your lenses, but it will help others in your position as well. Shit, you might end up on Oprah too. lol[/quote]
Yea really. As non-traditional as it is (understatement lol), this is one of the most profound “true love” stories I’ve ever seen.

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[quote]csulli wrote:

As non-traditional as it is (understatement lol), this is one of the most profound “true love” stories I’ve ever seen.[/quote]

Thanks buddy, that’s poetry that’s going on the wedding cards

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Best of luck to you and your girl, OP. Sounds like you’ve gotten very lucky in one another.

Also, could I be any prouder of our Testosterone Nation? No, I could not.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
Best of luck to you and your girl, OP. Sounds like you’ve gotten very lucky in one another.

Also, could I be any prouder of our Testosterone Nation? No, I could not.[/quote]

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[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
I’m not sure if this was asked or not but have you gotten any “professional help” about this? Spoken to any psychiatrists or psychologists or anything? Have you tried getting down to the root of your whole situation? (If that even is a thing lol)

Did you experience any sexual abuse, that you know of, as a young child?

So you identify as a woman and are attracted to women?

I’m glad you didn’t kill yourself. That’s not the answer and I’m glad that you seem happier now than before.[/quote]

No sexual abuse or anything similar as a child, not even in the slightest. [/quote]

Trans people are not trans because they have experienced sexual abuse as a child. I want to commend rehanb_bl for having the courage to come out, and discuss her identity so openly, and politely answer such intrusive questions.

I’m also trans (female-to-male). And my girlfriend is a beautiful trans girl (male-to-female). There are more trans people out there than you would really imagine, living very normal lives, going about our business as usual. We are really more of an “invisible” minority than a visible one. The first year(ish) of physically transitioning is the hardest in terms of societal reactions to appearing to be an in-between gender, but after a while you tend to just start fitting in…

Edit: Razzberry09 - you are rad as shit! :slight_smile:

For photos of me and my gf:

And me before and after starting HRT

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Dam, just beautiful beyond description. I wish all the best to you two ! It is not an easy road to walk (especially at 6’!" in 3" heels). Anyway… much love out to you ! To those who are so supportive, thank you so so much.

Nobody I know personally, or whose stories we have heard and told about would CHOOSE this lifestyle. With all the ignorance,
intolerance and hated, we walk a difficult path. Thanks once again T-Nation breatheren for the support, killerDIRK.

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[quote]SkinninMacKinnon wrote:

[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
I’m not sure if this was asked or not but have you gotten any “professional help” about this? Spoken to any psychiatrists or psychologists or anything? Have you tried getting down to the root of your whole situation? (If that even is a thing lol)

Did you experience any sexual abuse, that you know of, as a young child?

So you identify as a woman and are attracted to women?

I’m glad you didn’t kill yourself. That’s not the answer and I’m glad that you seem happier now than before.[/quote]

No sexual abuse or anything similar as a child, not even in the slightest. [/quote]

thanks for the amazing post! I creeped your tumblr and I am sure I actually saw you at the UtM OPA meet!

Trans people are not trans because they have experienced sexual abuse as a child. I want to commend rehanb_bl for having the courage to come out, and discuss her identity so openly, and politely answer such intrusive questions.

I’m also trans (female-to-male). And my girlfriend is a beautiful trans girl (male-to-female). There are more trans people out there than you would really imagine, living very normal lives, going about our business as usual. We are really more of an “invisible” minority than a visible one. The first year(ish) of physically transitioning is the hardest in terms of societal reactions to appearing to be an in-between gender, but after a while you tend to just start fitting in…

Edit: Razzberry09 - you are rad as shit! :slight_smile:

For photos of me and my gf:

And me before and after starting HRT

[/quote]

thanks for the amazing message! also I creeped your tumblr and I am pretty sure I saw you at the UTM meet! I had also been to see the postal service shortly before that!

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[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Dam, just beautiful beyond description. I wish all the best to you two ! It is not an easy road to walk (especially at 6’!" in 3" heels). Anyway… much love out to you ! To those who are so supportive, thank you so so much.

Nobody I know personally, or whose stories we have heard and told about would cCHOOSE this lifestyle. With all the ignorance,
intolerance and hated, we walk a difficult path. Thanks once again T-Nation breatheren for the support, killerDIRK.[/quote]

you are right it;s not choice

stay strong and thanks for the encouragement

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[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
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thanks for the amazing message! also I creeped your tumblr and I am pretty sure I saw you at the UTM meet! I had also been to see the postal service shortly before that!
[/quote]

I tried sending you a PM - not sure if it went through?

Did you lift at UTM? I was there and North Bay for OPA contests this year.

Do you plan to compete post-transitioning?

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[quote]SkinninMacKinnon wrote:

[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
I’m not sure if this was asked or not but have you gotten any “professional help” about this? Spoken to any psychiatrists or psychologists or anything? Have you tried getting down to the root of your whole situation? (If that even is a thing lol)

Did you experience any sexual abuse, that you know of, as a young child?

So you identify as a woman and are attracted to women?

I’m glad you didn’t kill yourself. That’s not the answer and I’m glad that you seem happier now than before.[/quote]

No sexual abuse or anything similar as a child, not even in the slightest. [/quote]

Trans people are not trans because they have experienced sexual abuse as a child. I want to commend rehanb_bl for having the courage to come out, and discuss her identity so openly, and politely answer such intrusive questions.

I’m also trans (female-to-male). And my girlfriend is a beautiful trans girl (male-to-female). There are more trans people out there than you would really imagine, living very normal lives, going about our business as usual. We are really more of an “invisible” minority than a visible one. The first year(ish) of physically transitioning is the hardest in terms of societal reactions to appearing to be an in-between gender, but after a while you tend to just start fitting in…

Edit: Razzberry09 - you are rad as shit! :slight_smile:

For photos of me and my gf:

And me before and after starting HRT

[/quote]

No way you should be allowed to compete in the gay games. Genetically you are female dating a male. Socially you are male dating a female. LOL That’s a miss on both counts!

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[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]SkinninMacKinnon wrote:

[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
I’m not sure if this was asked or not but have you gotten any “professional help” about this? Spoken to any psychiatrists or psychologists or anything? Have you tried getting down to the root of your whole situation? (If that even is a thing lol)

Did you experience any sexual abuse, that you know of, as a young child?

So you identify as a woman and are attracted to women?

I’m glad you didn’t kill yourself. That’s not the answer and I’m glad that you seem happier now than before.[/quote]

No sexual abuse or anything similar as a child, not even in the slightest. [/quote]

Trans people are not trans because they have experienced sexual abuse as a child. I want to commend rehanb_bl for having the courage to come out, and discuss her identity so openly, and politely answer such intrusive questions.

I’m also trans (female-to-male). And my girlfriend is a beautiful trans girl (male-to-female). There are more trans people out there than you would really imagine, living very normal lives, going about our business as usual. We are really more of an “invisible” minority than a visible one. The first year(ish) of physically transitioning is the hardest in terms of societal reactions to appearing to be an in-between gender, but after a while you tend to just start fitting in…

Edit: Razzberry09 - you are rad as shit! :slight_smile:

For photos of me and my gf:

And me before and after starting HRT

[/quote]

No way you should be allowed to compete in the gay games. Genetically you are female dating a male. Socially you are male dating a female. LOL That’s a miss on both counts!
[/quote]

They should change the name to “The LGBTTIQQ2SA Games” for that very reason.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]SkinninMacKinnon wrote:

[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
I’m not sure if this was asked or not but have you gotten any “professional help” about this? Spoken to any psychiatrists or psychologists or anything? Have you tried getting down to the root of your whole situation? (If that even is a thing lol)

Did you experience any sexual abuse, that you know of, as a young child?

So you identify as a woman and are attracted to women?

I’m glad you didn’t kill yourself. That’s not the answer and I’m glad that you seem happier now than before.[/quote]

No sexual abuse or anything similar as a child, not even in the slightest. [/quote]

Trans people are not trans because they have experienced sexual abuse as a child. I want to commend rehanb_bl for having the courage to come out, and discuss her identity so openly, and politely answer such intrusive questions.

I’m also trans (female-to-male). And my girlfriend is a beautiful trans girl (male-to-female). There are more trans people out there than you would really imagine, living very normal lives, going about our business as usual. We are really more of an “invisible” minority than a visible one. The first year(ish) of physically transitioning is the hardest in terms of societal reactions to appearing to be an in-between gender, but after a while you tend to just start fitting in…

Edit: Razzberry09 - you are rad as shit! :slight_smile:

For photos of me and my gf:

And me before and after starting HRT

[/quote]

No way you should be allowed to compete in the gay games. Genetically you are female dating a male. Socially you are male dating a female. LOL That’s a miss on both counts!
[/quote]

They should change the name to “The LGBTTIQQ2SA Games” for that very reason.[/quote]

Oh crap, I’m no Orien. Let’s see here…

L - Lady or Lesbian.
G - Gay
B - I see a trend, lets go with bisexual
T - Transexual/Transgender
T - Transexual/Transgender
I - Intersex (I’m shakey on this one but sticking with the trend)
Q - Queer (kind of redundant but this is the best guess I’ve got)
Q - Queen (feeling shaky again) Maybe “Questionable”?
2 - No freaking clue
S - No freaking clue
A - No freaking clue

Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transexual Transgender Intersex Queer Questionable???
The number 2 just throws everything off. I can’t even take a guess at the rest.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]SkinninMacKinnon wrote:

[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
I’m not sure if this was asked or not but have you gotten any “professional help” about this? Spoken to any psychiatrists or psychologists or anything? Have you tried getting down to the root of your whole situation? (If that even is a thing lol)

Did you experience any sexual abuse, that you know of, as a young child?

So you identify as a woman and are attracted to women?

I’m glad you didn’t kill yourself. That’s not the answer and I’m glad that you seem happier now than before.[/quote]

No sexual abuse or anything similar as a child, not even in the slightest. [/quote]

Trans people are not trans because they have experienced sexual abuse as a child. I want to commend rehanb_bl for having the courage to come out, and discuss her identity so openly, and politely answer such intrusive questions.

I’m also trans (female-to-male). And my girlfriend is a beautiful trans girl (male-to-female). There are more trans people out there than you would really imagine, living very normal lives, going about our business as usual. We are really more of an “invisible” minority than a visible one. The first year(ish) of physically transitioning is the hardest in terms of societal reactions to appearing to be an in-between gender, but after a while you tend to just start fitting in…

Edit: Razzberry09 - you are rad as shit! :slight_smile:

For photos of me and my gf:

And me before and after starting HRT

[/quote]

No way you should be allowed to compete in the gay games. Genetically you are female dating a male. Socially you are male dating a female. LOL That’s a miss on both counts!
[/quote]

They should change the name to “The LGBTTIQQ2SA Games” for that very reason.[/quote]

Pfft I can’t believe that’s a real acronym. “2-Spirited” Yeah, like i would have guessed that one.

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[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]SkinninMacKinnon wrote:

[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
I’m not sure if this was asked or not but have you gotten any “professional help” about this? Spoken to any psychiatrists or psychologists or anything? Have you tried getting down to the root of your whole situation? (If that even is a thing lol)

Did you experience any sexual abuse, that you know of, as a young child?

So you identify as a woman and are attracted to women?

I’m glad you didn’t kill yourself. That’s not the answer and I’m glad that you seem happier now than before.[/quote]

No sexual abuse or anything similar as a child, not even in the slightest. [/quote]

Trans people are not trans because they have experienced sexual abuse as a child. I want to commend rehanb_bl for having the courage to come out, and discuss her identity so openly, and politely answer such intrusive questions.

I’m also trans (female-to-male). And my girlfriend is a beautiful trans girl (male-to-female). There are more trans people out there than you would really imagine, living very normal lives, going about our business as usual. We are really more of an “invisible” minority than a visible one. The first year(ish) of physically transitioning is the hardest in terms of societal reactions to appearing to be an in-between gender, but after a while you tend to just start fitting in…

Edit: Razzberry09 - you are rad as shit! :slight_smile:

For photos of me and my gf:

And me before and after starting HRT

[/quote]

No way you should be allowed to compete in the gay games. Genetically you are female dating a male. Socially you are male dating a female. LOL That’s a miss on both counts!
[/quote]

They should change the name to “The LGBTTIQQ2SA Games” for that very reason.[/quote]

Pfft I can’t believe that’s a real acronym. “2-Spirited” Yeah, like i would have guessed that one.[/quote]

2-spirit is an anglicized First Nations term to acknowledge possessing both male and female spirit. Before colonization, many first nations tribes held 2-spirit people in high regard. They were often shamen or very highly respected in their communities.

haahah yes! - Gay Games is just the way the event is named. It is for gay, bisexual, trans people. They even have an official trans inclusion policy for athletes, which is that competitors must have a doctor confirm they have been on HRT for at least 1 year.

Sexually, I identify as queer/bisexual. I’m in a monogamous relationship now but in the past have dated “curious” straight men, gay men, bi men, other trans men, queer/lesbian cis women, and trans women. And I have, at one point in my life, identified with every letter of “LGBTQ”, and even briefly flirted with heterosexuality!! hah

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Wow

What an interesting thread. Did not expect to ever read anything like this on T-Nation.

I am curious OP what are your body stats? You’ve mentioned that you had 19 inch guns and weighed 275 but are you tall. Do you have a big bone structure? Do you have a bunch of stretch marks from getting so big?

Also three years to lose enough muscle for your end goal. I think it could be done way quicker. Just eat like 500 calories a day for six days and then one day eat whatever you want. You will be a size 0 in like a year. Whatever the fuck size 0 is. I could never understand female sizes.

Also I feel worth mentioning. I would totally bang skinninMacKinnins girlfriend. Does that make me gay?

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[quote]A-rod wrote:
girlfriend - gay?[/quote]

that kinda says it no?