[quote]therajraj wrote:
Can you at least share a pic of the muscular body you spent building before you tear it down with female hormones? [/quote]
I’m interested in this too. I know there was another thread at one point talking about another person who was a pretty developed individual who made the transition. Was only a few months ago that it was brought up…
[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
[quote]silverblood wrote:
not going for the Becca Swanson look?[/quote]
hhaha I could never be that strong, so might as well go for looks[/quote]
you said 3 yrs. I’ll be almost 60 so I expect pics so I can be a dirty(er) old man!
[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
It will take like 3 years to get rid of all the muscle and then i can start lifting again.[/quote]
Somewhere, where ever he may be, Professor X just had a cerebral aneurysm form then explode because of that statement.
I haven’t said it yet, but congrats on finding happiness. I know several guys and a couple of women who have experienced those same feelings of dissonance and had a similarly difficult time of coming to terms with who they are.
I think its true that we still dont know shit about fuck all, because I cannot get for the life of me how a man wants to be a woman, yet is sexually attracted to women.
There is of course a trade off, by becoming a woman you are less likely to attract them.
Anyhow, there are tentative hypothesis for being gay, there are tentative hypothesis for people who feel they are in the wrong body, but nothing for wrong body/not gay.
[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1377442_10151874926307566_1716127808_n.jpg[/quote]
are you going to grow the hair long or keep it short?
[quote]orion wrote:
I think its true that we still dont know shit about fuck all, because I cannot get for the life of me how a man wants to be a woman, yet is sexually attracted to women.
There is of course a trade off, by becoming a woman you are less likely to attract them.
Anyhow, there are tentative hypothesis for being gay, there are tentative hypothesis for people who feel they are in the wrong body, but nothing for wrong body/not gay.
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well if you are from a different gender you are not gay, you are heterosexual but in the wrong body
[quote]silverblood wrote:
[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1377442_10151874926307566_1716127808_n.jpg[/quote]
are you going to grow the hair long or keep it short?[/quote]
Doing a full 180 on everything pretty much
I wrote a huge elaborate post but somehow T-Nation just didn’t take it.
Anyway in the picture (which wasn’t supposed to be posted) I was down to like 255 already? At my peak I have 19" arms just doesn’t look that way because I have very long limbs.
Weighloss and shaving the beard whilst it’s being removed makes me look like I’m 16 instantaneously
[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Hey Sister, I am right there with you. Thank you for breaking the Big Broading Behemouth of bullshit that I always thought would surround and inundate the thought patterns of the T-Nation faithful ! And, thank you to T-Nation faithful about being so open minded about something that is still SO misunderstood and discriminated against.
I too have felt this way for a long long time…since about 3rd grade.
I not only grew up in a VERY CONSERVATIVE area of Chicago, but with a Speech impediment and a Jewish family on top of that…
I was pick on constantly, teased and even beaten up a few times for being just this little different from everyone else, BEFORE they
anyone even knew the deeper truth.
I was gaucky, tall, thin, shy and NOT comfortable in my own skin
I to failed beautifully at my suicide attempt in 8th grade…
First day of 8th grade a formerly “flat” chested girl came in, and my first reaction was that I would never have a body like hers…
no matter how badly I knew that she was what I was feeling inside.
I have since the mid '90s now been comfortable with not only WHO i am, but WHAT I am .
My parents and sister still love me, my family is still dealing with it and the rest can just go and fuck themselves…
So Go forth and Live Learn and Pass on (to bogart the EliteFTS shirts) what you know and are, so that others may become
what they are meant to become…[/quote]
Well congrats! It’s nerve wracking and I can 100% relate.
I thought T-Nation would be much more of a mud flinging contest but you know what there are many people here who are secure people looking for improvement and focusing on themselves.
I would like to thank everyone who has even just taken the time to write a word of encouragement and even though I don’t know many of you personally it reflects well on your character by how you respond to this controversial topic.
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I had a threat up a few months ago where I invited a few people from a feminist website over, to discuss some things.
They were butthurt in an instant, especially some gay guy with additional issues I dont care to remember.
The thing was, and I tried to explain that to him (Oxford comma?), that we would not go out of our way to hurt him, but we would not walk on eggshells either.
So, in a way, you get as much butthurt as you want to get on this site.
If you are not looking for it actively it will probably amount to zero.
[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
I think its true that we still dont know shit about fuck all, because I cannot get for the life of me how a man wants to be a woman, yet is sexually attracted to women.
There is of course a trade off, by becoming a woman you are less likely to attract them.
Anyhow, there are tentative hypothesis for being gay, there are tentative hypothesis for people who feel they are in the wrong body, but nothing for wrong body/not gay.
[/quote]
well if you are from a different gender you are not gay, you are heterosexual but in the wrong body
[/quote]
That was not the point.
I can get who this or that hormone rush or the lack of it during pregnancy can turn your brain somehwhat male or female-ish.
However, those people still believe to be in the right body, they are just gay.
Now, believing to be in the wrong body but being heterosexual, more or less, \O_O/…
Seems like sexual orientation and gender identity are not necessarily linked?
[quote]orion wrote:
Seems like sexual orientation and gender identity are not necessarily linked?[/quote]
I think we lost each other somewhere, but yes that sentence is accurate they are two separate things
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Out of curiosity - what is your end goal here?
Live as a M-2-F transgender (keep or cut your penis?) married to a Cis woman? Changing your career? How on earth could your fiancee be okay with you lopping off your penis?
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Easy, strap-ons are always hard and never get tired. Plus, boobs! Everyone loves boobs, so says science: http://guycodeblog.mtv.com/2012/08/13/women-stare-at-cleavage/
Are you really sure your fiancee would be cool with this? I know she says so but…
Without masculine energy, and a lack sexual polarity will she really want to stay with you long term?
You might have to accept the fact your current relationship could end over this.
To Derek542. Been out and playing, laughing and living for some time now : )
To Pat…wow ! For all the differences that we seem to have around the PWI , I completely misjudged you.
My sincere apologies for the previous bashings…
As Dan Savage has said over and over. “It does get better.”
That does not mean it gets easier neccessarily, but people will know you for your heart and actions,
not for what your exterior dress is…
[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
To Pat…wow ! For all the differences that we seem to have around the PWI , I completely misjudged you.
My sincere apologies for the previous bashings…
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Not to speak for Pat, but people seriously confuse the fact that conservatives don’t want to fucking pay for this kind of thing for thinking that we would stand in the way of an adult who makes life choices.
Do whatever the fuck you want, but pay for it yourself.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Are you really sure your fiancee would be cool with this? I know she says so but…
Without masculine energy, and a lack sexual polarity will she really want to stay with you long term?
You might have to accept the fact your current relationship could end over this.
[/quote]
I’ll be honest, I’m super interested in the dynamic between OP & his spouse. It just sounds like a very interesting story.
So that said OP, please keep a detailed log and write a book on how your relationship evolved during this transition. I would very much like to read it.
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
Do whatever the fuck you want, but pay for it yourself.[/quote]
I would only add: and leave me alone
But yeah, that sentence sums my general feelings about most things.
Be responsible for yourself.
[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
To Derek542. Been out and playing, laughing and living for some time now : )
To Pat…wow ! For all the differences that we seem to have around the PWI , I completely misjudged you.
My sincere apologies for the previous bashings…
As Dan Savage has said over and over. “It does get better.”
That does not mean it gets easier neccessarily, but people will know you for your heart and actions,
not for what your exterior dress is…[/quote]
Thanks, I appreciate that. But I want to make sure that focus stays on rehanb_bl. There is a person who is clearly suffering a great deal and I don’t want him (for now at least) to continue to suffer. I certainly am not in a position to judge, I sincerely want him to get better. It’s not about politics, it’s about a person who is suffering with an intensely complex emotional dynamic.
No politics or personal belief should supercede a person in need. I hope I am able to bring a small degree of comfort and encouragement to rehanb_bl. There is not much I can do from behind a keyboard, but I know others have suffered from this type of thing, I know he is not alone and I want him to get the help he needs to feel better about himself.
Ultimately rehanb_bl, I want you to be happy and clear. I just want you to make decisions you need to make yourself happy with who you are. Sometimes it’s takes drastic action sometimes it just takes just accepting yourself. Which ever you need to do, you need to do. Just be clear and have the right support systems in place.
[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
To Derek542. Been out and playing, laughing and living for some time now : )
To Pat…wow ! For all the differences that we seem to have around the PWI , I completely misjudged you.
My sincere apologies for the previous bashings…
As Dan Savage has said over and over. “It does get better.”
That does not mean it gets easier neccessarily, but people will know you for your heart and actions,
not for what your exterior dress is…[/quote]
Cool
