Beer & Wine

[quote]folly wrote:
Newcastle Brown is a blend of the pale ale and the dark. It isn’t brewed specifically, therefore it is mostly bottled. Newcastle has a lot of brews, we just don’t get them here.

And yes, it is the nectar of the gods. When I do drink, I’ll get Newcastle. Unless I am having seared tuna. Then I’ll have Red Stripe. MMmmm, tuna.

-folly[/quote]

See, learn something new every day. Thanks, folly!

[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
Reccomend to me a good beer

and a good wine.

I have ladies to impress…and one likes fine beer and one likes fine wine.

K, make it happen boys :-p

I haven’t drank in a year and half… I’d usually just shotgun vodka. [/quote]

It depends on how much you are willing to spend.

Red wine - Borolo. You are looking at aroung $50 a bottle but you will sure impress especially if they are very into wine.

White wine - Reisling…very sweet more of a dessert wine but can drink with anything. Hogue makes a very nice reisling for about $10

Beer - Bass, Yeunling, Sam Adams, Killian’s Red

[quote]bino wrote:
Beer: Smithwick’s or La Fin du Monde

Wine: Two Buck Chuck’s, otherwise known as Charles Shaw. Get it at Trader Joe’s[/quote]

xen you usc punk@ss,

first off, knowing or not knowing your beer and wine better not make or break your deal, so keep that in mind. you know, a real nice way to impress the ladies is simply to say, “hey, i’m not a raging alcoholic, i don’t require liquid courage, and thus i just don’t know that much about alcohol. hold it against me if you must, but i’d rather hold this against you.” then show her your little trojan. ok, maybe not that last part …

you got lots of good feeds from the others, but here’s my take for recommendations:

first, i gotta say this. beer reeks of white trash. with that out in the open, i love beer. girls like kinder, gentler beers, like corona and the regular american light beers.

what this guys said about Smithwick’s is absolutely ON. that is the best damned beer i think i have ever had, but it is probably not for the ladies. also, it is hard as hell to find.

for wine, stick with again easier drinking wines. a nice chardonnay is hard to beat. reds can be tricky - my experience is that they are a love/hate thing. in general girls do like sweet stuff, so a bottle of dessert wine (not desert wine - it sucks when it’s hot) is hard to beat.

also, what this guy said about “two buck chuck”, the nick for charles shaw, is a sure fire way to make sure you DON’T get laid if this girl knows anything about wine. not that it’s bad, just that it’s known for being cheap.

keep in mind that lots of girls like drinks - real drinks. a good bottle of vodka goes a long way. ketel one or grey goose are good values.

in other news, i hope matt leinert breaks a leg. same for reggie bush and the rest of those overpaid punk@sses.

;]

roll on you BEERS,
Bastard!

[quote]jsbrook wrote:
For domestic, Corona with a lime is a classy beer. Imported, I like Boddington. I don’t know much about wine. My girlfriend does or thinks she does. We like Santa Margherita Pinot Grigio. A nice, crisp mid-priced white. Real wine drinkers drink red. Maybe a Merlot. [/quote]

first off, i think this jsbrook guy posts more than me. how annoying.

secondly, corona is not exactly what i would call classy. also, it originates from mexico. just because there are lots of mexicans in the states does not mean that mexican beers are domestic. not that it matters, but …

Bastard!

[quote]BFG wrote:

secondly, corona is not exactly what i would call classy. also, it originates from mexico. just because there are lots of mexicans in the states does not mean that mexican beers are domestic. not that it matters, but …

Bastard![/quote]

Personally, the best thing about Corona is that Jimmy Buffet did a commercial for it once. Bleah. Kinda like Foster’s. “Australian for Export”

-folly

[quote]Witchfinder wrote:
Beer: Try bottled Budvar, the original Budweiser brewed in Budweis, Czech Republic. Beautifully smooth lager.

Wine: A good bottle of Chateauneuf Du Pape

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I second the Czech beers. You Can’t go wrong. Try Staropramen ( My wife loves this stuff) and Pilsner Urquell (the first Pilsner) as well. You won’t find Budvar here, it is now called Czechvar nonetheless it is a very good beer. Also there hasn’t been a bottle of Chimay that I have had that I didnt like.

As for wines I really like Baron Knyphausen riesling 1998 or 2002.

Good luck!

TR

[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
salmon grilling it myself assorted vegetables and some sort of pasta with that white sauce stuff… I don’t know the terms just how to cook it.

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FOr the beer,

Hennepin by Brewery Ommegang

It’s a nice, light farmhouse ale. It works very well with fish and white meats. It’s higher in carbonation than most, so it’s very active.

OR

Delirium Tremens by Huyghe Brewery.

WARNING!! Very high alcohol content. THis beer is very good!! It’s rather sweet, with a slight cotton candy finish, but it’s not surripy. This is very good alone after dinner as desert, rather than serving the same old Moscato disert wine.

La’
Redsol1

I showed a buddy of mine this thread…

He said he’s going to buy every type of beer you guys mentioned and try them all out lol.

If I get the chance I’ll post pictures…

Whoever said that beer reeked of redneckness, or something along those lines, has never tried decent beer. Much more then just bud light.

That being said, Cali has a pretty good beer scene. I have never been dissapointed my anything from Sierra Nevada. Also, if you like more aggressive beers, Stone makes some fantastic ones. Arrogent Bastard, Their IPA, just to name a couple.

Drink Local

Sierra Nevada is the best Nor Cal Beer.

[quote]Rockscar wrote:
Sierra Nevada is the best Nor Cal Beer.[/quote]

ain’t that the truth !

[quote]frisbee wrote:
Whoever said that beer reeked of redneckness, or something along those lines, has never tried decent beer. Much more then just bud light.
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I agree - plus, as Xen pointed out, one of the girls is interested in fine beers… so why then just ignore that and state all beer is redneck? Tell that to the Bavarians who view it (and rightly so) as high art.

Beer:It all depends on what type she likes.

Ale: Sam Adams Boston Lager (even though its called a lager, its actually an ale)

Pilsener: Pilsener Urquell

Weissbier: Franziskaner, Paulaner or Schneiderweisse (mit heffe) are all good and Weihenstefaner is also good.

For a lighter beer, I like Heineken and Rolling Rock and if you can find it, Bitburger is enjoyable. Saranac makes some decent beers too.I would recommend staying away from Corona if you’re trying to impress - everyone knows Corona and chances are she’s had it several times before.

For a completely different beer experience, you could go with a lambic. They come in different flavors and are more like a champagne.

Wine: Again, it depends on how strong (and expensive) you want to go.
I like Rosemount Estates (about $15/bottle). Schaefer Sonoma makes some excellent reds, but it will set you back $50-$60 a bottle.

Hope this helps.
DB

swivel is on the money.

However, I will say it’s pretty difficult to just recommend “a wine,” without knowing how you’re planning to serve it, what you’re drinking it with, and whether your lady friend is a fan of Boone’s Strawberry Hill (there’s no point in wasting your money buying good wine for someone who’d rather have Boone’s…).

[quote]swivel wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
Sierra Nevada is the best Nor Cal Beer.

ain’t that the truth !

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Hmm. Isn’t Pete’s Wicked a NorCal beer? And Anchor makes a damn good brew as well.

No disrespect to the Sierra Nevada, but there is definitely competition in the neighborhood.

Beer:

If you’re in the southern CA area, I recommend trying to get ahold of some Karl Strauss Amber Lager. It’s good stuff, and it was widely available in San Diego – not sure about LA, but you should be able to find it there.

Also, for a chick beer, I recommend trying to find some Spanish Peaks Honey Raspberry (it’s actually pretty good – not just a fruity chick beer, but beer with a touch of sweet fruit taste).

[quote]frisbee wrote:
Whoever said that beer reeked of redneckness, or something along those lines, has never tried decent beer. Much more then just bud light.

That being said, Cali has a pretty good beer scene. I have never been dissapointed my anything from Sierra Nevada. Also, if you like more aggressive beers, Stone makes some fantastic ones. Arrogent Bastard, Their IPA, just to name a couple.

Drink Local[/quote]

Oh yeah, Stone is excellent. They’re out of Carlsbad, and they make some tasty brew. I think Whole Foods generally stocks their Arrogant Bastard as well…

I would definetly recommend Yellowtail Shiraz…I have many wine snob friends and even they fall for it when I have it out.

As far as beer…I could go on for a very long time but if she is like many women who don’t enjoy the typical beer taste…I would recommend these three as a post dinner drink:

Brooklyn Lager Choc. Stout - The best Choc. stout I have ever had! Plain and simple.

Bluepoint Bluberry Lager - A very refreshing, pleasent after taste. Great for sweets!

Lambic dutch Ale - It comes in peach, rasberry and cherry. I have had the rasberry and peach - I highly recommend them both!

Beer: Rogue’s Dead Guy Ale

Wine:
Red ->Anything by Black Opal, like their Cab, wife likes their Shiraz. Another if you can get it, Is Block 13 Cab yr 2002.

White → Wife likes Dr. ZenZen, it is a gwerstdaminer, I know I spelled that totally wrong. A slightly sweet, light white.

swivel had such good advice, I’ll just add some comments to it rather than crafting my own response (I probably should have done just one response instead of all of these, but I love beer and wine…).

[quote]swivel wrote:

bro wine is my life. it’s really tough to recommend not knowing your tastes or your girl’s tastes or your experience. not to sound all high brow but the palate grows and becomes more demanding with experience. i could tell you shit that’s out there right now that i think is the best thing i ever tasted for 20 bucks but you might not see the beauty of it cause you just don’t have the palate time where as i taste anywhere from 20-100 wines a week…

ok that being said there is nobody and i mean nobody on this earth who won’t flip over a good bottle of moscato d’asti -which translates from italian as “panty remover” . it’s lightly sparkling - what the italians call “frizzante”. its also has some residual sugar so it’ll be sweet, but if it’s a good one it willnot be sticky sweet and so delicious you’d better get two bottles. one for before dinner, one for after. wouldn’t recommend it with dinner, but it’d be great for desert. go to a good store and ask for a recommendation. expect to pay 12-15 bucks a btl. [/quote]

Defintely a good choice, but do keep in mind it’s a little sweet. It’s probably good to find out if she likes sweet, slighty sweet (demi-sec if you want to sound impressive) or dry wines before delving in.

And find out if she prefers reds or whites – and if you want to go above and beyond, find out if she generally likes her wines oak-aged or just steel fermented (a bigger deal w/r/t whites than to reds, but anyway).

[quote]you get what you pay for so don’t mess around with any crap for less money unless the guy really knows his shit and is recommending it.

you could also go with champagne. nobody turns their nose up to champagne. again i mean real frickn champagne. bollinger, pol roger, taittinger, veuve-cliquot-chicks dig veuve cause it’s owned by a woman. but there you’re starting at 30 bucks a btl, and for the brands i just mention more like 50 and up. and you will score points with cahmpagne for sure but you won’t get the oh my god this is sooo freakin good i want to slurp it outta your naval response you will with the moscato d’asti. the italians know what’s frickn goin’ on let me tell ya.[/quote]

The sparkly stuff is always good.

While the true French stuff is definitely good, there are some other options that are definitely still good and aren’t nearly as expensive. A lot of the French houses make CA bottlings – my favorite is Roederer Estates (the same house that makes Cristal). Their regular is around $20 or so a bottle, while the reserve is closer to $30, and damn good. Domaine Tattinger (the house that makes Dom) also has a California label, as does Piper Heisdek.

And you wouldn’t think to try it, but a place in New Mexico makes some good stuff for about $20 per bottle: Gruet.

If you want to buy foreign, you can get some fabulous sparklers from Italy and Spain. The Italian ones are spumantis or Proseccos – personally I think Proseccos are some of the best bargains on the shelves right now, as good Prosecco is as good (in its own way – not quite as complex) as a French champagne. Also, Spanish sparklers are quite good, and relatively inexpensive - they’re called “cava.” There’s one that’s fairly widely available, Cristalino Brut, that should run you less than $10 per bottle.

One small note on sparkling wine – always look for ones that have been bottle fermented (also known as “methode traditionale”) – good, but not foolproof, sign you aren’t buying swill.

I think you’re in SoCal – go to a World Market (formerly Cost Plus) and you can find some good deals on all the above-mentioned wines.