Hey guys, i just had a quick question about the Biotest BCAA’s. For along time now i have been taking 4 pre / mid / post workout is this a effective way to take them or is there a better way ? Just want to make sure im gettin the most out of em i can !! Thanks all.
I probably take more than they suggest on the bottle, but…
Training Days: 4 upon waking, 6 pre, 6 during, 6 post workout, 4 before bed (if I wake up in the middle of the night to pee 6 more, If I sleep through, 0)
Non-Training Days: 4 upon waking, 4 between meals 4 and 5 (longest time between meals) 4 between meals 5 and 6, 4 before bed. (and same nighttime protocol)
That’s just what I do. It work for ME. Is what you are doing working for you? Do you recover/grow/lose/maintain better than without them? If not, try increasing the dose. If you are, no need.
For the love of GOD do not purchase/take or even think about powdered BCAAs… i just baught a tub of em from “dynamatize” and the shit does NOT mix… its all grainy and u get it in your mouth and its really gross, but at least now i know to get pill form, yes???
[quote]PozzSka wrote:
I probably take more than they suggest on the bottle, but…
Training Days: 4 upon waking, 6 pre, 6 during, 6 post workout, 4 before bed (if I wake up in the middle of the night to pee 6 more, If I sleep through, 0)
Non-Training Days: 4 upon waking, 4 between meals 4 and 5 (longest time between meals) 4 between meals 5 and 6, 4 before bed. (and same nighttime protocol)
That’s just what I do. It work for ME. Is what you are doing working for you? Do you recover/grow/lose/maintain better than without them? If not, try increasing the dose. If you are, no need.
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If only we could all afford an approach like this… 
As for me, I at least try to get them in around workout time (before and after). But I’d certainly do it more if I could afford it.
on training days - 6 before, 6 during, and 10 after workouts then 6 b4 bed.
i only take it on non-training days if desired.
I just bit the bullet and bought 3 bottles of the BCAAs here. I’m dosing it at 7 tabs 5 times a day. No, I’m not rich. Since I’m taking this semester off, my arrangement is basically that I work, hand mommy my paycheck, and she pays off my credit card. I figured it wouldn’t hurt to sneak in some supplements. I hope it pays off.
Thanks for all the replies. I know more are better but you guys are right money does play a huge factor with supplements ! Lol . Not a excuse but being in college does have a huge impact on funding. I will continue taking 4 pre/mid/post workout as i seem to have had good results so far.
" Christian Thibaudeau’s BCAA Protocols
Christian Thibaudeau is on the high end of the scale, but the results speak for themselves:
“Over the past year, I’ve had several clients gain up to 8 pounds of lean mass in 2 weeks using my protocol. While most of my clients don’t gain 8 pounds in two weeks, most will gain an average of 1-2 pounds per week over the first 8 weeks of use.”
Here’s what Christian recommends:
5 servings of 5-10 grams per day (i.e. about 4 to 8 Biotest BCAA tablets):
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Upon waking up (especially if you engage in pre-breakfast cardio).
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Between breakfast and lunch.
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Between lunch and supper.
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Mid-evening.
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Before going to bed.
“Each serving would ideally be 10 grams; that will give you the best gains by far. The results are very close to being drug-like, and I’m not one to say this lightly. I put my reputation on the line.”
Chad Waterbury’s BCAA Protocols
Chad Waterbury has devised several BCAA protocols for his clients, some as high as 20 grams per serving and some as low as 3 grams per serving.
One of his favorites, though, is his “Mid-Sleep BCAA Protocol for Cutting or Bulking.”
“I’ve long stressed the importance of night-time feedings for growth and recovery. Problem is, most people don’t want to get up in the middle of the night and have a protein shake. But with a good BCAA supplement, all they need to do is have the pills sitting next to their alarm clock with a glass of water. They wake up briefly, take the pills, and they’re back asleep.”
Chad’s nighttime protocol calls for 1.5 grams of BCAA per 25 pounds of lean body mass. In other words, a 200-pound man would take roughly 8 Biotest BCAA tablets upon awakening.
Chad is also big on using BCAA for cutting, for which he prescribes 0.75 grams of BCAA per 25 pounds of LBM four times a day, between meals. (That equals about 4 Biotest BCAA tablets 4 times a day, for the prototypical 200-pound man.)
John Berardi’s BCAA Protocols
While Christian and Chad probably represent two ends of the BCAA dose spectrum, nutritionist John Berardi’s preferences lie somewhere in the middle.
For muscle gain or athletic performance, John recommends:
Non-Training Days: 4 Biotest BCAA tablets (roughly 5 grams), 2 or 3 times a day, split evenly throughout the day.
Training days: 4 Biotest BCAA tablets upon waking, 4 tablets during training, and 4 tablets after training, the two latter doses being in addition to a serving of Biotest’s Surge.
However, John also has a pretty interesting protocol that he uses on himself every couple of years to get super ripped. Get this, John Berardi, Mr. “Massive Eating” himself, will occasionally go on a stint where he eats 3 meals a day, totaling about 2,000 calories, interspersed with three 10-gram “feedings” of BCAA.
The large amounts of BCAA offset any potential muscle loss from the fairly severe bout of calorie restriction.
As you can see, the recommended dosages vary. However, I think it’s absolutely clear that BCAA are a valuable and indispensable tool for building muscle, improving athletic performance, or maintaining muscle while losing body fat. "
and Charles Poliquin has recommended 40 grams per workout
" Mega-Dose BCAAs
Now, during workout the most important thing is Branched Chain Amino Acids (BCAAs). People who claim they don’t get results from them simply don’t take enough. A 200 pound man should take 40 grams of BCAAs during a workout. I also add 9 grams of Carnosine.
I make my own amino acid blend capsules and find that you can train much harder with them and not get sore. In between sets you take four or five capsules. My athletes might go through 40 or 50 capsules per workout. We just dump about fifty capsules in a bottle and make sure they’re all gone by the end of the workout. I find that to be very anabolic. Most people who try that protocol break their plateaus right away.
BCAAs have a host of research-supported benefits including preventing catabolism, stimulating anabolism, lowering DOMS, and providing endurance, energy, and an increased rate of recovery. Military personnel in many countries now receive BCAA solutions to prevent mental fatigue during maneuvers."
[quote]Whey Man wrote:
If only we could all afford an approach like this…
As for me, I at least try to get them in around workout time (before and after). But I’d certainly do it more if I could afford it.
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Around workout time is the most important, but i do those other times if I’m feeling like i need it, and lately my lower body days have left me hurtin’ (not injured). So I have been taking some extra.
Thats an awesome idea A_W, anyone know where I could get something similar in Aus?
[quote]danchubb wrote:
Thats an awesome idea A_W, anyone know where I could get something similar in Aus?[/quote]
http://capsuleconnection.com/ sells the same machine and takes international orders.
There’s also http://www.capsuline.co.nz/
Looks similar and the company is based in Aus/Nz, but their prices are higher.
I currently only take mine pre and post workout, 15 grams pre and 25-30 grams after… I use powder that I buy by the pound and have them flavor it and while it’s still a little bitter I really don’t get grossed out at all while drinking
Thanks a lot for that - I agree, BCAAs taste like powdered ass.
Wow if I followed CT’s BCAA protocol I’d be a level 5 by next week!
Just in case anyone’s interested, I’ve put on 4 pounds in the past 2 weeks. I haven’t been sore at all. My lifts are exploding. So yeah, Thib just may be onto something.
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Kamikat wrote:
For the love of GOD do not purchase/take or even think about powdered BCAAs… i just baught a tub of em from “dynamatize” and the shit does NOT mix… its all grainy and u get it in your mouth and its really gross, but at least now i know to get pill form, yes???
I like this little fellow (I use it mostly for Phenibut powder - nasty stuff).
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thats a really good idea, but i dont really want to spend the money on a capsule maker device thing. ill just try to tough it out and finish the tub, then buy the Biotest one.
oh and after ill be sure to punch the dymatize people right in the kisser!
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