Batman vs Wolverine

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What people are forgetting is that Batman doesn’t have to kill Wolverine, only immobilise him; it’s been done by lesser heroes and villains than Batman. Wolverine is not unbeatable, but neither is Batman…bear in mind that in one storyline (Frank Miller’s The Dark Knight Returns)Batman beats even Superman.

The Wolverine of the movies is ridiculous; although he does some ridiculous stuff in the comics, he’s not meant to heal anywhere nearly as quickly as he does in the films.

As it has been stated, Batman is a master tactician, and you can’t get around the fact that Wolverine will never be a range fighter, and Batman is not a character who he could realistically sneak up on.

I’m a big fan of both characters, but anyone who really knows both characters will tell you the same thing:

Batman would immobilise him from a safe distance.

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[quote]artw wrote:
roybot wrote:
artw wrote:

Because Wolverine is so dangerous, Batman would undoubtedly keep a file on him and be able to use this system to also track him, thus rendering Wolverine’s super senses irrelevant and virtually eliminate any chance of a random encounter. Batman would probably also have a highly effective super-weapon built by WayneTech specifically to defeat Wolverine. Shit, he’d probably develop his own Batsuit made of adamantium.

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Wasn’t Brother I destroyed in Infinite Crisis (or whatever the arc before ‘52’ was called). If so, did Wayne build another system?
Good points here for Bats’ case. Especially the adamantium suit, which I totally overlooked. His claws cut through anything except other pieces of adamantium. The catch is that this suit would either have to have a bunch of weak spots (plates covering his forearms, legs, etc.) or be mechanized, kind of like Iron Man. Batman probably won’t fare well in hand-to-hand combat wearing a suit of armor.
Wolverine is vulnerable to toxins (in WW Hulk, they developed a toxin specifically to neutralize the Hulk’s healing factor, they could do the same for Logan), and of course magnetism.

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Spiderman can beat Wolverine and has done it in the comics universe.

But I think Batman would beat Spiderman. Although Batman would get killed against Wolverine. Face it, in the DC universe there is no adamantium, so there is nothing strong enough to hurt Wolverine, although Punisher killed Wolverine by electricuting him (it was a comic where Punisher killed every hero).

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[quote]roybot wrote:

WolBarret wrote:
The other Rob wrote:
Guy 1:
Unbreakable metal bones
6 foot long claws
Trained to be the ultimate killing machine
Healing factor that makes him almost completely unkillable
Super senses

-Breakable bones covered in Adamantium. bones are infused with adamantium, rendering them unbreakable.
-Trained to be a killing machine, but he’s never been the best fighter or most tactical.Ruthless killer. Prolonged life span means he has far more fighting experience than spoiled little rich kid Bruce Wayne (who refuses to kill out of principle). Wolverine is so badass that he trained as a samurai then got bored and became a lumberjack.
-Healing factor that does nothing to resist knock out gas, suffocation, heart attacks, or sudden mental trauma. Wolverine’s healing factor renders him immune to poisons (including knock out gas). Suffocation, heart attacks, or sudden mental trauma are a non-issue because Batman is even more vulnerable to them. Also, it doesn’t help him resist getting knockout with a well placed punch or kick. He can be knocked out.
So can Batman. And far more easily than Wolverine.

-Super senses including heightened sense of smell; effectively an early warning system.

Guy 2: Martial art skills Moot point. Even if Bats was the better fighter, he couldn’t go toe-to-toe with Wolverine because of Logan’s mutation.

Planning Limited. Wolverine is unpredictable, with more than enough experience to give Batman a few problems.

Gadgets Only as good as his tactics…

-One of the best, if not the best fighter, warrior, and tactician in the DC universe
-Master Tactician. MASTER!
Batman is the superior combatant and tactician, but Wolverine’s life experience definitely factors into this.
-Has an entire company dedicated to creating his gadgets and developing them to take out villains from Joker to Clay Face to Darkseid Cheat! Can I bring the X-Men in on the act?

I know who I’d bet on. Barring some way of stopping wolverine from healing or some kind of mind control Paging Xavier… I think I’d bet on him against anyone.

Anti-Wolverine spray would, of course, change things.

Spider-Man vs Wolverine: Wolvie gets owned and webbed up hanging from a street light.

Wolverine slices off Spidey’s arms and rams his camera up his ass, then takes a few snaps mails them to J. Jonah Jameson. Jameson grumbles about the photos being too dark and fires Peter Parker; Parker spends the rest of his life being spoon-fed by Aunt May. Justice is served.[/quote]

You’re wrong. Plain and simple. You tried pissing me off, but it didn’t work.

Hopefully the picture came up: As soon as this happens, Wolverine is dead in the water. Spidey is too fast, too strong, too smart, and too witty for Logan.

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[quote]RTJenforcer wrote:
What people are forgetting is that Batman doesn’t have to kill Wolverine, only immobilise him; it’s been done by lesser heroes and villains than Batman. Wolverine is not unbeatable, but neither is Batman…bear in mind that in one storyline (Frank Miller’s The Dark Knight Returns)Batman beats even Superman.

The Wolverine of the movies is ridiculous; although he does some ridiculous stuff in the comics, he’s not meant to heal anywhere nearly as quickly as he does in the films.

As it has been stated, Batman is a master tactician, and you can’t get around the fact that Wolverine will never be a range fighter, and Batman is not a character who he could realistically sneak up on.

I’m a big fan of both characters, but anyone who really knows both characters will tell you the same thing:

Batman would immobilise him from a safe distance.[/quote]

Thank you. A sensible person and a comic book reader.

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[quote]WolBarret wrote:
RTJenforcer wrote:
What people are forgetting is that Batman doesn’t have to kill Wolverine, only immobilise him; it’s been done by lesser heroes and villains than Batman. Wolverine is not unbeatable, but neither is Batman…bear in mind that in one storyline (Frank Miller’s The Dark Knight Returns)Batman beats even Superman.

The Wolverine of the movies is ridiculous; although he does some ridiculous stuff in the comics, he’s not meant to heal anywhere nearly as quickly as he does in the films.

As it has been stated, Batman is a master tactician, and you can’t get around the fact that Wolverine will never be a range fighter, and Batman is not a character who he could realistically sneak up on.

I’m a big fan of both characters, but anyone who really knows both characters will tell you the same thing:

Batman would immobilise him from a safe distance.

Thank you. A sensible person and a comic book reader.[/quote]

No problem- it does irritate me when people just say “Wolverine would annihilate everybody”

Sure, he’s an awesome superhero, and its easy to see why, but he’s not invincible, and he’s not unbeatable. He’s got weaknesses. It wouldn’t be exciting to read about a hero who was infallible and just kept on dicking everybody. Batman isn’t unbeatable either; in a world of superhumans, he’s just a normal man, and a borderline psychotic at that. They just aren’t heroes who you could fairly square off against one another. For me, Batman vs. Spiderman is a more exciting fight. As for Wolverine, I think he would be better pitted against someone like The Flash or Wonder Woman.

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[quote]rephore wrote:
Spiderman can beat Wolverine and has done it in the comics universe.

But I think Batman would beat Spiderman. Although Batman would get killed against Wolverine. Face it, in the DC universe there is no adamantium, so there is nothing strong enough to hurt Wolverine, although Punisher killed Wolverine by electricuting him (it was a comic where Punisher killed every hero).
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Holy shit! You actually read comic books! Bravo, sir. My friend let me borrow the that Punisher What if. Cap’s death was just atrocious. The Hulk death was understandable.

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And another thing! Near unbreakable bones doesn’t make him unkillable. It just means his death will be long and painful.

If the Juggernaut, Hulk, Colossus, Thor, or Ben Grimm grabbed his ass by the neck and started twisting(50-100 plus ton strength), that would be a long and painful death. Because eventually they would rip his head off, throw it to another county, and then Wolverine would flop around like a fist.

And before I hear this “Unbreakable bones” bullshit, if his neck is flexible enough to turn and twist, I think a being with the 10 ton plus Strength would have no problem twisting his neck off!

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[quote]WolBarret wrote:
roybot wrote:

WolBarret wrote:
The other Rob wrote:
Guy 1:
Unbreakable metal bones
6 foot long claws
Trained to be the ultimate killing machine
Healing factor that makes him almost completely unkillable
Super senses

-Breakable bones covered in Adamantium. bones are infused with adamantium, rendering them unbreakable.
-Trained to be a killing machine, but he’s never been the best fighter or most tactical.Ruthless killer. Prolonged life span means he has far more fighting experience than spoiled little rich kid Bruce Wayne (who refuses to kill out of principle). Wolverine is so badass that he trained as a samurai then got bored and became a lumberjack.
-Healing factor that does nothing to resist knock out gas, suffocation, heart attacks, or sudden mental trauma. Wolverine’s healing factor renders him immune to poisons (including knock out gas). Suffocation, heart attacks, or sudden mental trauma are a non-issue because Batman is even more vulnerable to them. Also, it doesn’t help him resist getting knockout with a well placed punch or kick. He can be knocked out.
So can Batman. And far more easily than Wolverine.

-Super senses including heightened sense of smell; effectively an early warning system.

Guy 2: Martial art skills Moot point. Even if Bats was the better fighter, he couldn’t go toe-to-toe with Wolverine because of Logan’s mutation.

Planning Limited. Wolverine is unpredictable, with more than enough experience to give Batman a few problems.

Gadgets Only as good as his tactics…

-One of the best, if not the best fighter, warrior, and tactician in the DC universe
-Master Tactician. MASTER!
Batman is the superior combatant and tactician, but Wolverine’s life experience definitely factors into this.
-Has an entire company dedicated to creating his gadgets and developing them to take out villains from Joker to Clay Face to Darkseid Cheat! Can I bring the X-Men in on the act?

I know who I’d bet on. Barring some way of stopping wolverine from healing or some kind of mind control Paging Xavier… I think I’d bet on him against anyone.

Anti-Wolverine spray would, of course, change things.

Spider-Man vs Wolverine: Wolvie gets owned and webbed up hanging from a street light.

Wolverine slices off Spidey’s arms and rams his camera up his ass, then takes a few snaps mails them to J. Jonah Jameson. Jameson grumbles about the photos being too dark and fires Peter Parker; Parker spends the rest of his life being spoon-fed by Aunt May. Justice is served.

You’re wrong. Plain and simple. You tried pissing me off, but it didn’t work.

Hopefully the picture came up: As soon as this happens, Wolverine is dead in the water. Spidey is too fast, too strong, too smart, and too witty for Logan.[/quote]

What? Spidey is not stronger than wolverine. No fucking way.
Faster maybe, if he uses his webs.
Spidey is definitely not wittier. Spidey is a fucking kid that fights are guy who likes pumpkins and paints his face green.
Wolverine fucking fought wars and has decades and centuries of experience.
Wolverine is like Patton.

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[quote]rundymc wrote:
artw wrote:
roybot wrote:
artw wrote:

Because Wolverine is so dangerous, Batman would undoubtedly keep a file on him and be able to use this system to also track him, thus rendering Wolverine’s super senses irrelevant and virtually eliminate any chance of a random encounter. Batman would probably also have a highly effective super-weapon built by WayneTech specifically to defeat Wolverine. Shit, he’d probably develop his own Batsuit made of adamantium.

Wasn’t Brother I destroyed in Infinite Crisis (or whatever the arc before ‘52’ was called). If so, did Wayne build another system?
Good points here for Bats’ case. Especially the adamantium suit, which I totally overlooked. His claws cut through anything except other pieces of adamantium. The catch is that this suit would either have to have a bunch of weak spots (plates covering his forearms, legs, etc.) or be mechanized, kind of like Iron Man. Batman probably won’t fare well in hand-to-hand combat wearing a suit of armor.
Wolverine is vulnerable to toxins (in WW Hulk, they developed a toxin specifically to neutralize the Hulk’s healing factor, they could do the same for Logan), and of course magnetism.[/quote]

Batman was wearing a similar suit when he took on Superman in The Dark Knight Returns. He fared pretty well then, and that was at the age of fifty-five after a long layoff. I think there is a specific type of metal that, if inserted into Wolverine, will seriously lessen his powers. Carbonadium, I think. Batman would probably have a shitload of that stuff around and just shoot it into Wolverine with a high-powered tranquilizer gun while hanging upside down form some 100 story building a half-mile away. Wolverine would be seriously weakened, then Batman, wearing his new adamantium suit and driving his adamantium-plated Batmobile, would activate a huge electro-magnet and completely immobilize Wolverine.

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[quote]rephore wrote:
Spiderman can beat Wolverine and has done it in the comics universe.

But I think Batman would beat Spiderman. Although Batman would get killed against Wolverine. Face it, in the DC universe there is no adamantium, so there is nothing strong enough to hurt Wolverine, although Punisher killed Wolverine by electricuting him (it was a comic where Punisher killed every hero).
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In the DC Universe, there’s no Wolverine either.

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Technically Spider-man is stronger than Wolverine. Proportional strength of a spider and all that. Wolverine doesn’t have super strength, just peak human strength, it’s not one of his powers.

I’d prefer it if Spidey didn’t beat Wolverine every time they faced off (which happens surprisingly often), but unfortunately it’s another one of those times where Wolverine’s abilities at close range are rendered irrelevant by Spider-man’s ability to take him out at a distance. That’s why Wolverine is in the X-Men; because on his own, he’s caught short- he functions better unleashed to do devastating damage at close range.

Yes, WolBarret, I read comics, graphic novels, the lot. I’m an English Literature student and you’d be surprised how deep some of the stuff gets, especially stuff by Frank Miller and Alan Moore.

I bet half of the blokes commenting on the subject don’t even know who the lovely man in your avatar is.

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A giant magnet would render wolverine harmless.

Let’s go batman, you can do it, giant magnet…

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These threads are always better with pictures

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fixed

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Oops heres the right one

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Close enough

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So… Batman wins on account of him having a twin that poses as the same character? He is psychotic enough to pull that shit off.

Come to think of it, what happens when Wolverine gets decapitated, say at the waist? Do both halves regenerate to form clones, or is it just the top half. Does he regenerate adamantium bones or his original human ones?

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[quote]rundymc wrote:
So… Batman wins on account of him having a twin that poses as the same character? He is psychotic enough to pull that shit off.
Come to think of it, what happens when Wolverine gets decapitated, say at the waist? Do both halves regenerate to form clones, or is it just the top half. Does he regenerate adamantium bones or his original human ones?[/quote]

I’ve thought about decapitation… but realized shortly after that can’t happen to Wolverine due to his skeleton being indestructable. You can’t cut through his spine. It will not disconnect. His bodyparts will always stay together.

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[quote]ChokeOnStrength wrote:
rundymc wrote:
So… Batman wins on account of him having a twin that poses as the same character? He is psychotic enough to pull that shit off.
Come to think of it, what happens when Wolverine gets decapitated, say at the waist? Do both halves regenerate to form clones, or is it just the top half. Does he regenerate adamantium bones or his original human ones?

I’ve thought about decapitation… but realized shortly after that can’t happen to Wolverine due to his skeleton being indestructable. You can’t cut through his spine. It will not disconnect. His bodyparts will always stay together. [/quote]

Hmm… this doesnt account for the joints and what ever that hold the bones togethor, they are not laced with adamantium or he would not be able to bend anything