[quote]roybot wrote:
artw wrote:
I might be wrong, but the idea that Bats has a dossier on every superhero in the event he needs to fight them is just fanboy propaganda. Has it actually been stated in the comics?
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I believe so, I never read said comic but it was mentioned multiple times during the DC event when Darkseid and Brainiac attacked Earth (War of Worlds- I think).
I think Batman would win. Although we need to determine what kind of fight it would be. Would it be no-holds-barred to the death, or would it be an honorable fight to determine who was better?
If its the first, Bats might have some trouble winning since he doesnāt kill, but if worse came to worse, he could strap a huge magnet to the Batmobile, get Wolvie stuck to it somehow, and then just drive it off a pier into the drink till Wolvie drowned. This fight would be tough for Bats if it was close combat, because of the claws, but I doubt Batman would stick around to go hand-to-hand in that case. Heād probably tag Wolverine with some sort of tracking gas/spray/nanotech (like he did against the Predator), then get out of there and come back with his magneto-batmobile.
If its the second, Wolverine might actually have a better chance. Going hand to hand with no claws or gadgets (being an honorable fight after all), Wolverine does still have his healing factor to protect him, and his adamantium to act as a weapon, even if it just makes his punches that much harder and more weighted. Although Batman has probably studied in-depth all the pressure points on a persons body and might be able to disable Wolverine that way. Iād still lean towards Batman pulling out a win somehow, maybe with a chokehold, since Logan still needs oxygen. But Bats would be hurting after taking a couple of adamantium weighted punches. Wolverine does have his samurai training, but Batman has studied martial arts all over the world. And I think Wolverine just relies on his claws a bit too much. He can come up with a great plan and follow through on it occasionally, but as Mike Tyson said āEveryone has a plan till they get punched in the face.ā Batman would probably tag Wolvie till he lost control and his animal side came out, then win since Wolvie would no longer be able to strategize at that point.
As far as Wolverines abilities, Wolverines senses can be disabled (anyone remember when Sabertooth shoved wasabi up Logans nose to take out his sense of smell?). Iām sure Batman could come up with some sort of sonic emitter to take out the hearing, and then just kill the lights since Bats has some night vision lenses built into his cowl. And does anyone not think that Bruce Wayne isntā good enought in chemistry to come up with some knockout dart that would take even Logan down for a little bit. Wolverine does have his claws and healing factor, but even a big enough explosion will still knock him out for a while (see the recent fight between him and Deadpool, although he did mean to lose that one). Plus Wolverines healing factor has been scaled back recently after his encounter with Lazaer, so heās no longer as indestructable as he once was (which he probably was relying on for a while, heck, he had his entire body torched off by Nitro and still came back). Bats has always been human and so he knows his limitations better.
All in all, whatever it would come down to, I would still lean towards a win by Batman, no matter how slim the margin.
[quote]artw wrote:
Batman could easily put the whole Rogueās Gallery away for good, except that Arkham Asylum is apparently the easiest asylum to escape from ever. [/quote] Lol, thatās true. All the more reason for Bruce Wayne to use his vast intellect to design an asylum that they canāt break out of [quote]Besides, if he put them all away for good, there wouldnāt be any more Batman comics.[/quote]
So Batman is perfectly capable of killing Wolverine in whatever manner he sees fit, but refrains from killing any of his ārealā enemies so as not to effect comic sales? Thatās literally killing off the competition. I like it. Bob Kane would be proud.
You all talk about batman preparing for every situation. In the latest movie there a few scenes were this does not occur therefore your premise is flawed. If wolverine attacked batman at random Batman is dead.
I would bend that admantium man into a pretzel!.. Especially if he messes with Lois!.. Batās would win it. Batās is smart, and so are many of the other superheroes. However, itās tough to beat Batās gadgetry and immaculate logic.
[quote]-SuperMan- wrote:
I would bend that admantium man into a pretzel!.. Especially if he messes with Lois!.. Batās would win it. Batās is smart, and so are many of the other superheroes. However, itās tough to beat Batās gadgetry and immaculate logic. [/quote]
Youād probably need to be brainwashed or mind-controlled first. Youāre too much of a boyscout.
Hmmm, regardless, how much do you squat?
alexdoesweights:
Well, weāre talking about the experienced Batman whoās been around for a while. And weāre talking about the comic book Batman, not Christian-Bale Batman from the reboot of the movies.
Because yes, his Batman is cool, but still very inexperienced, and doesntā seem as smart as the mythological Batman of the comic book series.
[quote]rundymc wrote:
-SuperMan- wrote:
I would bend that admantium man into a pretzel!.. Especially if he messes with Lois!.. Batās would win it. Batās is smart, and so are many of the other superheroes. However, itās tough to beat Batās gadgetry and immaculate logic.
Youād probably need to be brainwashed or mind-controlled first. Youāre too much of a boyscout.
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The combined weight of the family sedan a couple of times a week. Yeahh, Batās says Iām too much of boyscout. I gotta sharpen up a bit.
[quote]Vash wrote:
Captain America went toe-to-toe with Wolverine, and he didnāt lose.
Captain America went toe-to-toe with Batman, and got KTFOd.
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This is the way to think of it- like a playoff.
Could Wolverine beat supes? No.
Can Batman beat supes? Yes.
Batman can beat Superman who can beat Wolverine. Therefore, Batman can beat Wolverine. And, using the same logicā¦ just about anybody.
[quote]roybot wrote:
artw wrote:
All this talk about Wolverine beating Batman assumes that the two would just square off toe-to-toe. actually, the opposite is true: most people in the pro-Batman camp assume that Wolverine would walk into some elaborate trap prepared by the caped crusader. Wolverine is usually portrayed as some sort of knuckle-headed bruiser whoās quite happy to fall prey to whatever gimmick Batman has prepared at the time. Batman would never toe the line with Wolverine because heās smart enough to know he canāt win that fight. He would probably do something like invite Wolverine to Wayne Labs under the guise of Bruce Wayne, run some tests on him for some bullshit reason that Wolverine would fall for, then use the results of the test to devise some super-weapon or infallible strategy to defeat him should they ever cross paths. Again., thatās assuming Wolverine would fall for said bullshit excuse- he wouldnāt. Anybody with more than a passing knowledge of Wolverineās history would know that.
Batman can take out anyone in the DC Universe and he knows exactly how heāll do it since he has a dossier on every superhero in DC just in case. I might be wrong, but the idea that Bats has a dossier on every superhero in the event he needs to fight them is just fanboy propaganda. Has it actually been stated in the comics? He just canāt do it in a good old-fashioned street fight. He knows when to retreat and when not to, and no matter how much experience Wolverine has, Batman is still a lot smarter. He may not win the battle, but heāll always win the war. Look at how he fought Superman in The Dark Knight Returns. He took it to that motherfucker then faked his own death in order to escape what would have been certain death in order to live another day and start a whole new battle against tyranny and evil. Look at how Bane - a far less powerful adversary than Superman, or Wolverine for that matter - broke Bruce Wayneās back and almost put him out to pasture for good I think Batman would probably have some sort of electro-magnetic device that would render Wolverine impotent.
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Batmanās dossiers are NOT the stuff of fanboys. Batman indeed does have a dossier on every member of the JLA with a detailed plan as to how to defeat each one of them based on all of their strengths and weaknesses. Batman knows the JLA members better than they know themselves. In fact, the files have detailed plans on how to KILL each member and Batman also has the āBrother Iā satellite system that permanently tracks each member just in case. This is all detailed in Crisis On Infinite Earths.
Because Wolverine is so dangerous, Batman would undoubtedly keep a file on him and be able to use this system to also track him, thus rendering Wolverineās super senses irrelevant and virtually eliminate any chance of a random encounter. Batman would probably also have a highly effective super-weapon built by WayneTech specifically to defeat Wolverine. Shit, heād probably develop his own Batsuit made of adamantium.
In Crisis On Infinite Earths, a team of superpowered aliens captures the entire JLA and Batman is the one who saves them all from certain death, using his superior wits and all of the weaponry and equipment at his disposal to do so. If he can do this, he can certainly defeat one mutant. This is why Superman calls Batman the worldās most dangerous man and tends to have a shaky relationship with the rest of the JLA.
[quote]alexdoesweights wrote:
You all talk about batman preparing for every situation. In the latest movie there a few scenes were this does not occur therefore your premise is flawed. If wolverine attacked batman at random Batman is dead.[/quote]
The movies are not actual Batman or Wolverine canon, only things that happen in DC comics apply to Batman and only things that happen in Marvel Comics apply to Wolverine. Besides, the last two Batman movies take place well within Batmanās first year as a vigilante.
[quote]roybot wrote:
drewh wrote:
Why do people always complain about batman, its a comic book character, itās like saying superman is unrealistic no shit itās a fucking comic.
Superman is unrealistic - at least Batman wears a mask. Supes just throws on a suit and a pair of glasses and everybody starts calling him Clark Kent. Lex Luthor is apparently one of the greatest minds on the planet, and yet he canāt see past a pair of fucking spectacles!
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So true and he would be easy as hell to track based on his flight patterns.
One other thing: thereās no way Batman is going to be defeated by a fucking 5ā3" Canadian!
Two words āBat Magnetā
I dont get it wouldnt Batman just make a FAT magnet and wouldnt wolverine be stuck there for all eternity?
This fight makes me thing about another one - Chuck Norris vs. Clint Eastwood.
Clint - batman
Chuck - wolverine
Both are pure badass, itās just that one of them is smarter, and the otherās just bigger.
I just see batman wrapping up wolverine and throwing him into a pit where he would experiment on him to try and meld his healing ability gene to his own body.
Chuck Norris will never be in the same league as Clint NEVER!!!
George Clooney had nipples on his Batman costume. Fake nipples on men are gay. If a man wears a costume with nipples he is gay. George Clooney is gay. Wolverine would beat the brakes off of George Clooney Batman. Wolverine doesnt need gadgets or a gay sidekick named Robin. Girls are named Robin and they usually have big tits. So I guess if you had common sense you would know the answer to this Thread. Wolverine would at least beat George Clooney Batman. Wolverine is the shit. No HOMO
On another note Jack Bauer is a real person and would kill them both with a CTU Interogation Pack. So the real answer is Jack Bauer. He is also connected to Illuminati!