[quote]drewh wrote:
RTJenforcer wrote:
drewh wrote:
Wolverine has survived a nuke.
It was in civil war I said batman would win I;m just trying to state facts though.
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He survived Nitro’s self explodey power. That is certainly sub-nuclear. And you have to admit that was some pretty shoddy writing. Crappy shit writing like that makes long time comic book readers stop buying Marvel.
Quoted for truth. Only thing I’m getting from marvel is the Immortal Weapons/Iron Fist, Hulk (and the upcoming Fall of the Hulks). Might MIGHT pick up Thor’s ongoing, depending on what Doom is actually doing with the standard-issue Asgardians.
If it’s not the above, it’s garbage. Thanks to Joe “I Suck at All Things Life-Related” Quesamadia.
[quote]Bujo wrote:
drewh wrote:
RTJenforcer wrote:
drewh wrote:
Wolverine has survived a nuke.
It was in civil war I said batman would win I;m just trying to state facts though.
He survived Nitro’s self explodey power. That is certainly sub-nuclear. And you have to admit that was some pretty shoddy writing. Crappy shit writing like that makes long time comic book readers stop buying Marvel.[/quote]
wow, I came back to this thread to bump an old, dead thread…and come to find out, people are still talking in it!
o.0
[quote]Bujo wrote:
drewh wrote:
RTJenforcer wrote:
drewh wrote:
Wolverine has survived a nuke.
It was in civil war I said batman would win I;m just trying to state facts though.
He survived Nitro’s self explodey power. That is certainly sub-nuclear. And you have to admit that was some pretty shoddy writing. Crappy shit writing like that makes long time comic book readers stop buying Marvel.[/quote]
And bullshit like Superman Prime 1 and 2 is gonna make someone stay with DC? Ha.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
And bullshit like Superman Prime 1 and 2 is gonna make someone stay with DC? Ha.[/quote]
As opposed to Secret War (not Secret Wars), M-Day, and Secret Invasion. Yes, yes it makes staying with DC so much easier, especially with great stories like 52. At least when DC wants to get rid of a bunch of superhumans they do it via giant battle royale across Metropolis or with an onslaught of OMACs. Marvel it’s just poof and everybody is normal, except for an undefined number of characters.
What’s the big thing now? Oh yeah, Utopia. Why does that sound so familiar? Oh yeah, Asteroid M and Genosha were the exact same thing.
Maybe you’re so hard up on Superman Prime because you never read “Crisis on Infinite Earths” and don’t know that “Infinite Crisis” is the answer to all of the continuity problems the original Crisis created. Kal-L and S-man Prime had to be included.
And its not as if S-man Prime is the only evil superman villain. Hank Henshaw has been Cyborg Superman for 15+ years, Ultraman was around before that, and the Eradicator would pop up every so often.
I don’t like there being 28 fucking Superman’s, even if they’re all from multiple universes.
I don’t like a version of Superman being the villain in the storyline.
I really don’t like any story lines that involve multiple universe. Do it once, cool. Do it more than once, its stupid to me.
Both sides have good writing and both sides have shitty writing.
I agree, they’re both as bad as each other. Both could do with getting Alex Ross involved more often too. Kingdom Come was awesome. Would love to see Alan Moore and Alex Ross team up on a Marvel or DC miniseries title, especially something with X-Men or Batman, but I think Moore has said he won’t work with either anymore.
Alan Moore does a pretty good job, but your right he probably won’t ever work for any of the big 3 again. He seems pretty happy with smaller publishers.
But that’s ok DC has Greg Rucka, Gail Simone, Geoff Johns, Grant Morrison, and Mark Waid. They are turning out some good shit left and right.
Jesus, this has gone too long. As said on one of the early pages, it depends, before anything else, on who writes the story.
After that, it depends on where they are. If someone captures both of them and forces them to fight in a blank room, Wolverine will destroy Batman within seconds.
If Batman learns about him and has time to plan and strategize, then he CAN win. There are many ways to beat Wolverine, there are infinitely more ways to beat Batman because he is a regular human being at the end of the day.
Batman cannot hurt Wolverine unless he has some instrument of destruction that he knew to prepare ahead of time, bottom line. What is he gonna do? He can’t punch or kick him, if he punches Wolverine, he will do nothing but injure his own fist and likewise in any other direct combat situation.
What are his “batarangs” gonna do? cut Wolverine until he heals seconds later? What else does he keep in that utility belt in general? Smoke bombs? He may be able to run away and fight another day, that is waaaaaaaaaaay more realistic than a lot of shit being said on this thread.
Batman would have to use special measures to beat him, which he wouldn’t know to or let alone be able to use if it was an impromptu fight.
Listen people, Wolverine is faster and stronger than humanly possible and heals and has a virtually indestructable skeleton. Batman is a regular (not regular, but when compared to a superhuman like Wolverine) human being. They both have crazy martial arts training, but Wolverine has a lifetime more experience than Batman does in training and actual combat. Is this really still going on?
A lot of Batman fanboys on this site, I don’t dislike him, but this is out of hand. Also, don’t get me wrong, I’ve always liked Colossus more than Wolverine as my favorite X-Man.
Bottom line: in an impromptu fight: Wolverine will tear Batman to shreads within seconds, he will probably dodge like 3 or 4 attacks then get caught in the chest not before long. End of fight. If Batman knows ahead of time, then he could plan, but then again, so could Wolverine if he knows ahead of time. Ridiculous thread, given way more posts than it deserves
sorry I’ve been drinking
[quote]TDub301 wrote:
Jesus, this has gone too long. As said on one of the early pages, it depends, before anything else, on who writes the story.
After that, it depends on where they are. If someone captures both of them and forces them to fight in a blank room, Wolverine will destroy Batman within seconds.
If Batman learns about him and has time to plan and strategize, then he CAN win. There are many ways to beat Wolverine, there are infinitely more ways to beat Batman because he is a regular human being at the end of the day.
Batman cannot hurt Wolverine unless he has some instrument of destruction that he knew to prepare ahead of time, bottom line. What is he gonna do? He can’t punch or kick him, if he punches Wolverine, he will do nothing but injure his own fist and likewise in any other direct combat situation.
What are his “batarangs” gonna do? cut Wolverine until he heals seconds later? What else does he keep in that utility belt in general? Smoke bombs? He may be able to run away and fight another day, that is waaaaaaaaaaay more realistic than a lot of shit being said on this thread.
Batman would have to use special measures to beat him, which he wouldn’t know to or let alone be able to use if it was an impromptu fight.
Listen people, Wolverine is faster and stronger than humanly possible and heals and has a virtually indestructable skeleton. Batman is a regular (not regular, but when compared to a superhuman like Wolverine) human being.
They both have crazy martial arts training, but Wolverine has a lifetime more experience than Batman does in training and actual combat. Is this really still going on? A lot of Batman fanboys on this site, I don’t dislike him, but this is out of hand. Also, don’t get me wrong, I’ve always liked Colossus more than Wolverine as my favorite X-Man.
Bottom line: in an impromptu fight: Wolverine will tear Batman to shreads within seconds, he will probably dodge like 3 or 4 attacks then get caught in the chest not before long. End of fight. If Batman knows ahead of time, then he could plan, but then again, so could Wolverine if he knows ahead of time. Ridiculous thread, given way more posts than it deserves[/quote]
Alcohol or not, you’re wrong.
Wolverine is not faster.
They have the same level of strength.
Batman is a better skilled fighter.
Batman is a Better tactician.
Batman has multiple gadgets at his disposal.
Punches and kicks can hurt Wolverine, he just heals it pretty fast. But a kick to a face still hurts.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
TDub301 wrote:
Jesus, this has gone too long. As said on one of the early pages, it depends, before anything else, on who writes the story.
After that, it depends on where they are. If someone captures both of them and forces them to fight in a blank room, Wolverine will destroy Batman within seconds.
If Batman learns about him and has time to plan and strategize, then he CAN win. There are many ways to beat Wolverine, there are infinitely more ways to beat Batman because he is a regular human being at the end of the day.
Batman cannot hurt Wolverine unless he has some instrument of destruction that he knew to prepare ahead of time, bottom line. What is he gonna do? He can’t punch or kick him, if he punches Wolverine, he will do nothing but injure his own fist and likewise in any other direct combat situation.
What are his “batarangs” gonna do? cut Wolverine until he heals seconds later? What else does he keep in that utility belt in general? Smoke bombs? He may be able to run away and fight another day, that is waaaaaaaaaaay more realistic than a lot of shit being said on this thread.
Batman would have to use special measures to beat him, which he wouldn’t know to or let alone be able to use if it was an impromptu fight.
Listen people, Wolverine is faster and stronger than humanly possible and heals and has a virtually indestructable skeleton. Batman is a regular (not regular, but when compared to a superhuman like Wolverine) human being. They both have crazy martial arts training, but Wolverine has a lifetime more experience than Batman does in training and actual combat.
Is this really still going on? A lot of Batman fanboys on this site, I don’t dislike him, but this is out of hand. Also, don’t get me wrong, I’ve always liked Colossus more than Wolverine as my favorite X-Man.
Bottom line: in an impromptu fight: Wolverine will tear Batman to shreads within seconds, he will probably dodge like 3 or 4 attacks then get caught in the chest not before long. End of fight. If Batman knows ahead of time, then he could plan, but then again, so could Wolverine if he knows ahead of time. Ridiculous thread, given way more posts than it deserves
Alcohol or not, you’re wrong.
Wolverine is not faster.
They have the same level of strength.
Batman is a better skilled fighter.
Batman is a Better tactician.
Batman has multiple gadgets at his disposal.
Punches and kicks can hurt Wolverine, he just heals it pretty fast. But a kick to a face still hurts.[/quote]
Don’t know much about comics that why I generally don’t add much to these threads 
but why would it matter if batman is a better fighter or if they have equal strength(which after all of wolverines combat experience I would think he would end up being stronger) or if wolverine is painfully slow…
I would think if the fight for some reason became a hand to hand fight where those variables actually mattered, wolverine would win regardless… he has knives coming out of both hands that cut through practically everything
[quote]Amiright wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
TDub301 wrote:
Jesus, this has gone too long. As said on one of the early pages, it depends, before anything else, on who writes the story.
After that, it depends on where they are. If someone captures both of them and forces them to fight in a blank room, Wolverine will destroy Batman within seconds.
If Batman learns about him and has time to plan and strategize, then he CAN win. There are many ways to beat Wolverine, there are infinitely more ways to beat Batman because he is a regular human being at the end of the day.
Batman cannot hurt Wolverine unless he has some instrument of destruction that he knew to prepare ahead of time, bottom line. What is he gonna do? He can’t punch or kick him, if he punches Wolverine, he will do nothing but injure his own fist and likewise in any other direct combat situation.
What are his “batarangs” gonna do? cut Wolverine until he heals seconds later? What else does he keep in that utility belt in general? Smoke bombs? He may be able to run away and fight another day, that is waaaaaaaaaaay more realistic than a lot of shit being said on this thread.
Batman would have to use special measures to beat him, which he wouldn’t know to or let alone be able to use if it was an impromptu fight.
Listen people, Wolverine is faster and stronger than humanly possible and heals and has a virtually indestructable skeleton. Batman is a regular (not regular, but when compared to a superhuman like Wolverine) human being.
They both have crazy martial arts training, but Wolverine has a lifetime more experience than Batman does in training and actual combat. Is this really still going on? A lot of Batman fanboys on this site, I don’t dislike him, but this is out of hand. Also, don’t get me wrong, I’ve always liked Colossus more than Wolverine as my favorite X-Man.
Bottom line: in an impromptu fight: Wolverine will tear Batman to shreads within seconds, he will probably dodge like 3 or 4 attacks then get caught in the chest not before long. End of fight. If Batman knows ahead of time, then he could plan, but then again, so could Wolverine if he knows ahead of time. Ridiculous thread, given way more posts than it deserves
Alcohol or not, you’re wrong.
Wolverine is not faster.
They have the same level of strength.
Batman is a better skilled fighter.
Batman is a Better tactician.
Batman has multiple gadgets at his disposal.
Punches and kicks can hurt Wolverine, he just heals it pretty fast. But a kick to a face still hurts.
Don’t know much about comics that why I generally don’t add much to these threads but why would it matter if batman is a better fighter or if they have equal strength(which after all of wolverines combat experience I would think he would end up being stronger) or if wolverine is painfully slow…
I would think if the fight for some reason became a hand to hand fight where those variables actually mattered, wolverine would win regardless… he has knives coming out of both hands that cut through practically everything [/quote]
Batman is a man who’s main goal in life is to stop crime and evil. It is his obsession and he lives it every day. He’s become a master of many fighting arts, fighting tactics, investigation, technology, etc. Batman is damn near the best at everything. Every opponent he fights, he analyzes them and picks them apart within a second. He knows how to hurt minor villains like Scarecrow and to kill major villains like DarkSeid.
Batman has also fought better fighters than Wolverine and won. He’s fought more powerful enemies than Wolverine and won.
And the way Wolverine fights will work to Batman’s advantage. Wolverine will gloat, talk shit, pop out his claws, and say “I’m the best there is at what I do…and what I do isn’t very nice”. And he’ll charge in, swinging wildly. The moment he popped the claws, Batman would know this guy wasn’t normal and would put him down.
Batman is strong enough and skilled enough to hurt Wolverine. Batman would either knock him out with his hands/fist, tie Wolverine up with one of his gadgets, or use Wolvie’s anger, get behind him, and choke him out.
Wolverine is accustomed to jumping into a fight and swings until he kills the opponent. He has the capability to be methodical and precise, but he doesn’t us it. He has been beaten by lesser men due to his foolish tactics.
wolverine has mutant healing factor, indestructable skeleteon, and razors sharp adamatium claws, my prediction wolverine or Fedor
It doesn’t matter how many times you post it, you’re still retarded.
[quote]Amiright wrote:
Don’t know much about comics that why I generally don’t add much to these threads but why would it matter if batman is a better fighter or if they have equal strength(which after all of wolverines combat experience I would think he would end up being stronger) or if wolverine is painfully slow…
I would think if the fight for some reason became a hand to hand fight where those variables actually mattered, wolverine would win regardless… he has knives coming out of both hands that cut through practically everything [/quote]
Spider-Woman slit Wolverine’s throat with his own claws. SPIDER-WOMAN BEAT WOLVERINE WITH HIS OWN CLAWS. SPIDER-WOMAN.
And you think he is going to beat Batman?
Whoever wrote that should die, Spiderwoman seriously.
Spider-Woman is one bad bitch.
At that time New Avengers was one of Marvel’s better comics. Much better than that travesty of a mag Wolverine.
Aquaman would win.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
TDub301 wrote:
Jesus, this has gone too long. As said on one of the early pages, it depends, before anything else, on who writes the story.
After that, it depends on where they are. If someone captures both of them and forces them to fight in a blank room, Wolverine will destroy Batman within seconds.
If Batman learns about him and has time to plan and strategize, then he CAN win. There are many ways to beat Wolverine, there are infinitely more ways to beat Batman because he is a regular human being at the end of the day.
Batman cannot hurt Wolverine unless he has some instrument of destruction that he knew to prepare ahead of time, bottom line. What is he gonna do? He can’t punch or kick him, if he punches Wolverine, he will do nothing but injure his own fist and likewise in any other direct combat situation.
What are his “batarangs” gonna do? cut Wolverine until he heals seconds later? What else does he keep in that utility belt in general? Smoke bombs? He may be able to run away and fight another day, that is waaaaaaaaaaay more realistic than a lot of shit being said on this thread.
Batman would have to use special measures to beat him, which he wouldn’t know to or let alone be able to use if it was an impromptu fight.
Listen people, Wolverine is faster and stronger than humanly possible and heals and has a virtually indestructable skeleton. Batman is a regular (not regular, but when compared to a superhuman like Wolverine) human being.
They both have crazy martial arts training, but Wolverine has a lifetime more experience than Batman does in training and actual combat. Is this really still going on? A lot of Batman fanboys on this site, I don’t dislike him, but this is out of hand. Also, don’t get me wrong, I’ve always liked Colossus more than Wolverine as my favorite X-Man.
Bottom line: in an impromptu fight: Wolverine will tear Batman to shreads within seconds, he will probably dodge like 3 or 4 attacks then get caught in the chest not before long. End of fight. If Batman knows ahead of time, then he could plan, but then again, so could Wolverine if he knows ahead of time. Ridiculous thread, given way more posts than it deserves
Alcohol or not, you’re wrong.
Wolverine is not faster.
They have the same level of strength.
Batman is a better skilled fighter.
Batman is a Better tactician.
Batman has multiple gadgets at his disposal.
Punches and kicks can hurt Wolverine, he just heals it pretty fast. But a kick to a face still hurts.[/quote]
Normally, I hate using wikipedia as a reference, but in the case of comic book characters’ powers, any comic book nerd who will take the time to post about the character I will believe. With that being said, you don’t know what you’re talking about champ.
1.Wolverine has lifted a dozen men over his head with one hand. Nobody who is 6’2" 220 (according to Six Flags at least, that’s how big Batman is) can lift more than a barbell with a few plates and some change on each side above his head with both hands and that’s being very giving. So on the strength level, no Batman isn’t even close.
2.Next, Wolverine has superhuman speed, Batman doesn’t.
3.When a regular person punches or kicks someone whose skeleton is encased in indestrutable metal guess what happens? It’s simple logic, buddy.
4.Wolverine’s fighting experience dwarfs Batman’s. There’s no possible way he’s a better fighter. I’m sorry, you must really love Batman, cuz all these things are simple logic. You saying Batman is a better fighter would be like me saying you’re a better lifter than ________________ (insert pro-bodybuilder name who has been lifting since before you were born) and even then the comparison still isn’t doing it justice.
5.Better tactician? Well, ya, that’s the key to Batman, he is the best tactician, but if he gets into an impromptu fight, he doesn’t have time to think of special tactics, which is (and don’t ignore this part because it is the key to this fight) the key to Batman winning against Wolverine or pretty much anyone with special powers.
And don’t even get me started on the fight if Batman is stripped of his utility belt, then you’re stupid if you think he can win.
