[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]mathew260 wrote:
What is the motive for getting rid of guns and making them illegal? Is it to prevent people from dying? Is it to prevent people from dying tragic deaths? If the answer is yes, I just don’t get that line of thinking. Automobiles kill an average of about 100 people in the U.S. every DAY. NSAIDs used for arthritis kill an average of around 15,000 people every single year. Every year, double that amount of people kill themselves by suicide. Where is the outrage?
This is why gun advocates get so irritated with people acting do emotionally when events like this occur. I can’t imagine having to go through something like what happened on Friday, and I feel for the families involved. I know that energy and anger over what happened needs to be channeled into acting in a manner that will make the victims feel as though something is being done to “prevent” another tragedy like this from occurring again. However, this is is not the way to go about it. It is not going to prevent people from dying, it will not heal those deranged individuals, it will not rid the world of death, suffering and pain.
Taking away rights, creating and enforcing more laws, and building a police state so rigid that no action goes unnoticed will not prevent death. It will only make things worse in the end. It will only consolidate the power, it will only strip away more freedom. Luckily enough people in this country seem to think with their brain and realize this. Ice T gave a great interview and I hope more people speak up about utilizing a crises to mask real intentions and hidden agendas. [/quote]
I love rifles and shooting as much as anybody. Problem is these companies are in it for profit, they are in business to produce weapons and get people to purchase them. Not saying they have it in mind to sell firearms to unstable people, but it is an inevitability with so many weapons being in circulation and being produced along with the ease of purchase.
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Talking about using something like that to ram home an agenda.
You know what weapon killed more people in the 20th century than just about anything else?
Well except maybe non profit, aka socialist agriculture induced famines?
The Awtomat Kalaschnikowa, obrasza 47.
Those terrible capitalist pigs. [/quote]
Eh, I have no agenda. I’m partial to the m16 platform, but I prefer a heavier combat rifle like the m14. Earlier I made the point that the same end could have been accomplished with various other hunting rifes, and that the magazine on this particular weapon is a non issue considering it is probably what caused the jam.
Anyhow, as far as capitalism goes, capitalism isn’t a perfect system when it goes unchecked. Combination of all weapons companies, not just the ones in the U.S. have contributed to a more global problem with weapons. But here in the U.S. you have organizations like the NRA which treat arms companies like they can do no wrong. Every time something has been done to try and make it more difficult to get weapons, the NRA has been there to stomp it out. We have been in a situation where this sort of thing has been an inevitability for quite a while. It’s already happened in the past… I don’t think making a ban on assault rifles or the magazines will do a thing. But I am seriously concerned, and would like to see something done to make it more difficult for nut cases to get their hands on firearms.
This isn’t to say I think people should have access to everything. I mean, I’d probably the first guy to purchase a maw deuce if they were legal, but honestly I don’t want civilians having this sort of weapon at their disposal, no more than I want them having street sweepers or mac 10’s or 11’s, which really are virtually designed for drive by shootings, I wish I were kidding about that, but we are talking capitalism here.
I’m also saying that the nature of psychological disorders is curious. Some are genetic and tend to come about in people at a certain age. I imagine there are those who may be into fire arms that succumb to these sort of mental disorders naturally. So, screening people, even with a psych evaluation isn’t going to solve all the problems given the nature of psychological disorders. I’m just saying something needs to be done about insane people getting their hands on firearms.
