[quote]DS 007 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
How can someone get Ivy League degrees and be dumb?
Goodness. Like his family name had NOTHING to do with what university he was accepted into.
Everyone who thinks Bush would be where he is WITHOUT the name BUSH, raise your hand.
Dumb is relative. He sure as hell doesn’t “speak so eloquently”. It doesn’t surprise me at all that people question his intelligence. I also doubt that ANY of you would be willing to listen to one word Barack had to say if he spoke anywhere near the same as the current president regardless of his stance on issues.
I will say that while he may not be “stupid”, I don’t believe he would have ever made it to even the same general universe in terms of success on his own merits alone.
Ah! The old ‘daddy got him’ logic. Original.
Let’s change your example. What if Obama spoke, to quote Tiki Barber with a “typical African-American diction”?
What then? Me thinks that anyone who pointed to his diction/public speaking skills would be called a racist. So we really couldn’t call him ‘dumb’. Could we? No way.
Bush is more accomplished in both his professional and public service lives then John Kerry. I’d submit that Bush is ‘smarter’ than Kerry while not as good a speaker. Compare Bush’s track record as governor of Texas (particulary in Education) with Kerry’s as a Senator. Yet Kerry was touted as ‘nuanced’ and borderline genius by the media. I have a feeling that you may have voted for him?
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I’m independent. I liked John McCain and would have voted for him. I wound up voting for Kerry. Record straight.
DS and Prof X have been right on the money with GWB. I was waiting for someone to mention family/dad when referring to GWB.
Let’s face it, GWB is the Ted Kennedy of the Bush dynasty which was just as powerful and just as ruthless as the Kennedys. GHB’s father was a Connecticut Senator (Prescott Bush), and according to Kitty Kelly, family members had backed Hitler but that’s another thread. The bottom line is that GWB goes absolutely nowhere without his father’s influence and political associates. NO WHERE. Couldn’t get elected Dog Catcher in San Antonio. As far as the Ivy League goes, it’s insulting to “family influence” that he did as poorly as he did in school and you could say business as well. Do you think for a second this guy is involved with a baseball team without dad?
GWB’s true attitude was bared when he was grounded in the National Guard due to attendance. That’s what the guy stood for. Let’s take two other people born with a “silver spoon in their mouth”, his father and JFK. One got shot down over the Pacific as a pilot and the other was a PT Boat Commander and war hero as well. And one of the reasons I would vote for McCain is the fact that while his father was Commander of the Naval Foces in Viet Nam, he was given the opportunity to be let out of prison and wouldn’t leave unless his fellow POWs were allowed to leave and as you know spent another couple of years there. GWB would have been in the first swiftboat down the Mekong Delta. Give credit where it is due and none is due him. Say what you want about Clinton, he came from a broken home and became a Rhodes Schoolar.
There isn’t much to be added to what has been said about his speaking skills. He is unwatchable. I would love to know what is going through the minds of his aides when he “wings” it. I loved it when they where saying how he wrote his own State of the Union speach, comparing him to FDR. I doubt he has an original thought in his head.
Barack would have a better shot if he had a few more years behind him not to say THEY couldn’t pull it off now. And it just might be good for him to have had his hand held to the fire a little bit with that $100,000 issue with the land deal. A nice lesson to learn early on as it seems to not have been made an issue. One parting shot, if he had the speaking skills of GWB, the only people in the country that would know his name would be his family and co-workers.
