[quote]Brad61 wrote:
hedo wrote:
Less then 19% of the poulation identify themselves as liberal vs. 39% conservative.
It depends on the poll and what questions are asked. Your figures merely prove that the GOP has done a good job at demonizing the label "liberal’ but doesn’t indicate what issues and values the voters actually support. For example most people do not believe that abortion should be outlawed. But yet they would hestitate to acknowledge that is a “liberal” position they hold.
Conventional wisdom is that the country is split into thirds, among Liberals, Conservatives, and Moderates.
The moderate block is not leaning liberal. That trend is clear, overwhelming and well documented. Why do you think the GOP isn’t all that concerned?
Uh, actually I think they are pretty concerned. I do read some conservative websites, and what I see is a party that is in disarray, and unclear on a direction.
You should try reading some liberal websites, and getting the other POV. You’re not going to get an even-handed account by reading one side of a story.
The moderate block is not trending Conservative. Go ahead and say that the last election is not a good measure of the mood of the country… I can’t think of a better barometer.
Regardless of what the Democrats attempt to morph into the liberal base will continue to shrink…they just don’t reproduce fast enough and children raised in a conservative household don’t typically grow up and embrace liberal idealogy. You really need to be born into it.
The stats indicate that the current crop of young people (teenagers and twenty-somethings) are decidedly more liberal than conservative. Other stats also show that most people decide on a political affiliation and stick with it, by the age of 30. The liberal who becomes a conservative in their old age (or vice versa) is a relatively rare phenomenon.
Look, the single most important and most powerful conservative in America (President Bush) is wildly unpopular, and viewed by the majority as not merely just ineffective, but as untrustworthy and a failure. And Conservatives lost their races not just in Congress but at the state and local level.
What you guys are doing is called whistling past the graveyard.[/quote]
Brad
I read a lot of liberal websites. Some of the stuff is quite scary. Most of them such as Daily KOS are simply silly. It reminds me of the no nuke movement of the 70’s…simply unworkable. Most seem to be an excercise in ego enhancement.
As I said can you refer to a source that reinforces your “conventional wisdom” of the country being divided into thirds. For example the WSJ refers to numerous sources when writing about this topic and I have never heard that statistic…might not be as conventional as you think.
Untrustworthy…failure. They are view held by liberals not the mainstream. Bush is unpopular because of a single issue which I am sure you understand. The Democrats are not the party the country trusts with it’s defense. they haven’t for years and aren’t about to start now.
The liberal/conservative debate has not end let’s face it. Back to Obama.
In all sincerity why vote for him and what does he stand for? Simply being against Bush isn’t going to cut it in 2008…what’s he for on the record?