Baltimore Burning

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’m not gonna argue with you Angry, you’re off your rocker. [/quote] I RESEMBLE that remark! LOL [quote]
http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Baltimore-Maryland.html

They’re out of towners? That isn’t what I’ve been hearing or seeing.
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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/240114-maryland-dem-baltimore-rioters-mainly-from-out-of-town

OK, here, now you’ve heard it.

Because EVERYONE knows that when someone is murdered in Baltimore the cops ALWAYS WAIT before they start breaking down doors, harassing people and trying to arrest or indict someone… SMH

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Cops become overzealous in a extremely violent high crime city? No shit…

Looting and rioting only makes people turn away from whatever “the cause” is, but maybe stop electing retards into public office… and then complain and riot over the government…

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[quote]comus3 wrote:
Everyone talking about using their 2nd amendment rights to fight the police state. What’s different here? Asking seriously. [/quote]

People have a legitimate right to defend themselves against aggression but they do not have a right to initiate aggression on innocent people.

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[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:

I suppose this is justified now.
[/quote]

Come on man, that’s a low blow. AC specifically and directly said he didn’t condone the looting or violence. I mean, there’s a damn quote directly at the top of his first post on this thread.

That’s an inaccurate criticism of AC and you damn well know it. You’re better than that.

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[quote]comus3 wrote:
Everyone talking about using their 2nd amendment rights to fight the police state. What’s different here? Asking seriously. [/quote]

Because this is the beginning of the end, not the triggering event.

the 2nd isn’t there to start wasting Cops because a chunk of them are giant assholes that beatup/murder suspects. The 2nd is there for when we all become suspects.

Look at Waco and the Bundy Ranch. Then look at Ferguson and Baltimore. The differences between the two are that the former are examples of “holy shit it’s go time” and the latter is “going to be go time soon, the Cops are getting a little bit out of control.” And those differences are based on orders.

No one ordered these Cops to kill that dude (allegedly), they did it because they as individuals are scum bags (allegedly). Waco and what was going to happen at Bundy, had the government ordering these otherwise innocent LEO to murder their own citizens.

One is the symptom, one is the cancer. I’m not convinced “go-time” is near, but shit is certainly rough right now.

We need an MLK right now like no other time sense the original. Too bad he’s a big fan of that Jesus fellow and a Republican, so he wouldn’t have a voice today.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Look at how peaceful Baltimore is:[/quote]

Not sure why you keep arguing the narrative that I’m saying Baltimore is a peaceful place. I GREW UP there, dude. I lived on my own on the streets of Baltimore from the time I was 16 back when it was the heroin capital of the US… I saw murders, robbery, theft, rape, torture, and everything under the sun. Please show me where I stated that Baltimore was a nice peaceful place. It’s most certainly not.

The POINT that I’m attempting to make is that the CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM in Baltimore, from the Cop on the street to the Judge on the bench is ENTIRELY CORRUPT.

THAT’S my point.

So when the cops kill ANOTHER black person while in police custody, AT A TIME IN OUR COUNTRY WHEN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH HAS EFFECTIVELY DIVIDED OUR NATION ALONG RACIAL LINES, what does one reasonably expect?

I have BEEN THROUGH the criminal “justice” system, HAVE YOU? I have experienced FIRST HAND having my rights repeatedly violated by Maryland Law Enforcement/Corrections, HAVE YOU? I’m angry about it. In case you’ve been reading my posts for the last couple of years, you may have picked up on that. I got out of Maryland because I kept getting beaten by their law enforcement (Baltimore City and PG county in particular, although I’ve enjoyed being needlessly harassed by Montgomery county cops as well). Guess how many times I’ve been beaten by cops in Northern Virginia or DC? NONE…

Maryland, and Baltimore in particular, has a problem with LE using excessive force, beating people and regularly violating their civil rights. I know, because I lived there and witnessed it a thousand times WITH MY OWN EYES, not some news story. I’ve experienced it FIRST HAND, would you like to see the scars I carry from those experiences? This isn’t some fucking joke - people are reaching a TIPPING POINT.

Why? Because they are tired of being robbed, beaten, harassed and KILLED by POLICE OFFICERS

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I think all of this could be solved by reducing the scope of the police state. That won’t happen, of course - BECAUSE OF THE CHILDREN!!!

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]TheKraken wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
So does anyone believe all this police training for “civil unrest” now makes sense?

Just playing Devil’s Advocate

*** and why would the mayor say she is giving these animals “space to destroy”?[/quote]

The Mayor’s comments where obviously not thought out. I don’t disagree with civil unrest training, but these riots will be used for the justification of more militarization of the police force. In a few years, we will be blatantly occupied by our police force…for our “protection.”[/quote]

Hmmmm, I remember starting another thread about this…[/quote]

I’ve been against the paramilitary police force 100% before. After seeing this, I think it’s debatable.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I see 109 police related deaths over 5 years with 75 of them being black citizens. That’s state wide. 218 people were murdered in Baltimore city alone in 2012. Even if only 50% were black (unlikely) that’s 109 black people murders in 1 year in 1 city.

But ya, I’m just ignorant…

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And how many crooked cops robbed people? How many crooked cops dished out beat downs and pistol whips? How many cops put their gun in the mouth of black men until they pissed themselves? How many cops just pulled someone over for NO REASON whatsoever and arrested them? How many cops threatened neighborhood kids regularly for just playing near their houses?

I’ve personally witnessed Baltimore cops doing ALL of the above on multiple occasions. Where’s your “statistics” on that? I don’t need statistics, I just need my MEMORY.

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[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]TheKraken wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
So does anyone believe all this police training for “civil unrest” now makes sense?

Just playing Devil’s Advocate

*** and why would the mayor say she is giving these animals “space to destroy”?[/quote]

The Mayor’s comments where obviously not thought out. I don’t disagree with civil unrest training, but these riots will be used for the justification of more militarization of the police force. In a few years, we will be blatantly occupied by our police force…for our “protection.”[/quote]

Hmmmm, I remember starting another thread about this…[/quote]

I’ve been against the paramilitary police force 100% before. After seeing this, I think it’s debatable.
[/quote]

Well than, looks like they’re accomplishing what they set out to accomplish.

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[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:

I suppose this is justified now.
[/quote]

Come on man, that’s a low blow. AC specifically and directly said he didn’t condone the looting or violence. I mean, there’s a damn quote directly at the top of his first post on this thread.

That’s an inaccurate criticism of AC and you damn well know it. You’re better than that.[/quote]

Thanks. When you put yourself out there with an issue you’re passionate about, the low blows are inevitable. I’m used to it. People just don’t like to read what I write, they like to project their bias.

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AC becomes overlord ruler of Baltimore, what do you do? (besides go black face to not be immediately labeled evil whitey)

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:

I suppose this is justified now.
[/quote]

Come on man, that’s a low blow. AC specifically and directly said he didn’t condone the looting or violence. I mean, there’s a damn quote directly at the top of his first post on this thread.

That’s an inaccurate criticism of AC and you damn well know it. You’re better than that.[/quote]

Thanks. When you put yourself out there with an issue you’re passionate about, the low blows are inevitable. I’m used to it. People just don’t like to read what I write, they like to project their bias.
[/quote]

Well, with your style of writing in particular people read a rant (which they are, but usually at least thought out), and mostly people have problems reading they disagree with accurately anyways. I don’t think it was malice lol, just not reading carefully.

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[quote]Aggv wrote:
AC becomes overlord ruler of Baltimore, what do you do? (besides go black face to not be immediately labeled evil whitey) [/quote]

Outside of cleaning house? I’m betting body cameras. Which I am all for.

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[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]TheKraken wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
So does anyone believe all this police training for “civil unrest” now makes sense?

Just playing Devil’s Advocate

*** and why would the mayor say she is giving these animals “space to destroy”?[/quote]

The Mayor’s comments where obviously not thought out. I don’t disagree with civil unrest training, but these riots will be used for the justification of more militarization of the police force. In a few years, we will be blatantly occupied by our police force…for our “protection.”[/quote]

Hmmmm, I remember starting another thread about this…[/quote]

I’ve been against the paramilitary police force 100% before. After seeing this, I think it’s debatable.
[/quote]

Well than, looks like they’re accomplishing what they set out to accomplish.[/quote]

If I put on my tin foil hat and tighten it EEEEEXTRA tight, I can almost see the following scenario play out (if not in Baltimore, then the next city after):

Cops kill another black person unjustly (or justly, at this point it doesn’t matter)

People protest

The professional agitators attend the protests and, as they have done before on multiple occasions in multiple cities, they start looting and burning shit.

The rioters are “given the space to destroy” and shit starts to spiral out of control.

Violence intensifies.

Police lose control.

Flash mobs turn into flash riots.

Flash riots start creeping out of the city.

The food supply is affected because deliveries are interrupted.

Violence intensifies.

When the police lose control, citizens begin taking maters into their own hands.

The left uses that as a reason to confiscate guns.

Civil War.

AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO SEES THIS POSSIBILITY?

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]TheKraken wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
So does anyone believe all this police training for “civil unrest” now makes sense?

Just playing Devil’s Advocate

*** and why would the mayor say she is giving these animals “space to destroy”?[/quote]

The Mayor’s comments where obviously not thought out. I don’t disagree with civil unrest training, but these riots will be used for the justification of more militarization of the police force. In a few years, we will be blatantly occupied by our police force…for our “protection.”[/quote]

Hmmmm, I remember starting another thread about this…[/quote]

I’ve been against the paramilitary police force 100% before. After seeing this, I think it’s debatable.
[/quote]

Well than, looks like they’re accomplishing what they set out to accomplish.[/quote]

If I put on my tin foil hat and tighten it EEEEEXTRA tight, I can almost see the following scenario play out (if not in Baltimore, then the next city after):

Cops kill another black person unjustly (or justly, at this point it doesn’t matter)

People protest

The professional agitators attend the protests and, as they have done before on multiple occasions in multiple cities, they start looting and burning shit.

The rioters are “given the space to destroy” and shit starts to spiral out of control.

Violence intensifies.

Police lose control.

Flash mobs turn into flash riots.

Flash riots start creeping out of the city.

The food supply is affected because deliveries are interrupted.

Violence intensifies.

When the police lose control, citizens begin taking maters into their own hands.

The left uses that as a reason to confiscate guns.

Civil War.

AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO SEES THIS POSSIBILITY?[/quote]

Here is what I see AC: cops kill another unarmed black in Anytown, USA. Agitators then come to a WHITE SUBURB are cause havoc. Police fight back this time and shit finally gets real.

They will learn they won’t wake up whitey until it happens in their hood.

Watch.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
This really is savagery, people destroying their own city is going to change things how exactly ?[/quote]

It undercuts the point the peaceful protesters were trying to make before the gangs and loonies came in to burn the place down.

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Considering they’re being undermined constantly by politicians and media, i cant believe that scenario has not happen.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
So does anyone believe all this police training for “civil unrest” now makes sense?

Just playing Devil’s Advocate

*** and why would the mayor say she is giving these animals “space to destroy”?[/quote]

She didn’t…fox news much?
She said she was giving them place for peaceful protest. Which was what was happening for the past x amount of days until yesterday.

[/quote]

Uhhh, listen to the speech. She DID say that. 0:26 in that clip.

“we also gave those who… wished to destroy, space to do that as well”

Stop listening to liberal media and use your brain.

So that’s the liberal strategy now: to GIVE THEM SPACE TO DESTROY

I’ll bet a few of the business owners might take exception to that…[/quote]

Sounds to me like she was admitting her mistake, not running from it. Which I admire.
She did mess up though, pretty badly. She were trying to give the peaceful protesters room to do their protests, but it inevitably gave the gansta’s and thugs room to operate.
One positive, the Bloods and the Crips came together as a unit to destroy the city. I think everybody liked it better when they were just killing each other for the most part.
It’s sad, I thought Madam Mayer was doing a pretty decent job of managing a delicate situation, up until yesterday. I guess we’ll see how she rebounds. She doesn’t strike me as stupid. At least not as stupid as Nagin from New Orleans. That guy was useless, but he’s in jail now, so there you go.

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[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
So does anyone believe all this police training for “civil unrest” now makes sense?

Just playing Devil’s Advocate

*** and why would the mayor say she is giving these animals “space to destroy”?[/quote]

She didn’t…fox news much?
She said she was giving them place for peaceful protest. Which was what was happening for the past x amount of days until yesterday.

[/quote]

Uhhh, listen to the speech. She DID say that. 0:26 in that clip.

“we also gave those who… wished to destroy, space to do that as well”

Stop listening to liberal media and use your brain.

So that’s the liberal strategy now: to GIVE THEM SPACE TO DESTROY

I’ll bet a few of the business owners might take exception to that…[/quote]

My bad, I didn’t see that interview. I only saw the one where she said she didn’t give them space to destroy only space to peacefully protest…Well she’s in trouble.

Also, MSNBC and media matters are liberal media?
[/quote]

She also thanked the Nation of ISLAM in her speech! This bitch is fucking crazy!

Well yeah, I mean she’s a black woman…aren’t they all crazy?
I find her weirdly attractive though.[/quote]

She’s not bad looking.