Warning: Absolutely know your state’s laws and local city ordinances.
A bad idea againist IED’s.
Nice knife. I see Benchmade also makes a trainer for that model, which is a huge plus if you see any possible “social” uses.
I am pretty much a convert to fixed blades for carry. For me size is a big limiting factor, covered with “local laws and regulations”, as is social stigma. At this point folders are accepted, but I have no desire to either create a scene or find myself facing a “You can beat the rap, but you can’t beat the ride” situation with an LEO.
The other issue is that while there are plenty of good knives, there are precious few good knife sheaths. I need to see what my preferred holster maker/kydex bender can do to make me a “business wear appropriate” sheath for my clinch pick. Where are you carrying yours?
RE: The knife photo
Friends don’t let friends carry Hydra-Shocks.
RE: The truck.
I am not to worried about I.E.D.'s where I drive.
I am, however, woefully un protected against evil spirits.
So, I need to adorn my vehicle in the colors and tapestries of my tribe.
The question “How to best hang Dogs Playing Pool from my vehicle?”
Regards,
Robert A
Hydra-Shock: Agreed, but, hey, its better than NATO hardball.
Dogs Playing Pool: lol…nice, how about painting a mural on the side of your car? I can’t see anyone or any spirit not running from that creation.
[quote]idaho wrote:
Robert,
since concealment is not an issue, I carry mine under my medpac on my day armor, I have two sheaths for the blade, each zip-tied to a set of armor.In the States, I have a sheath sown on the inside of 5.11 tactical vest.
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I see.
Do you have an opinion on having the fixed blade accessible to your support side?
Sort of a weapons retention/“handcuff key”/get the hell off me tool. There seem to be a lot of folks advocating using some size of fixed blade for that purpose. My personal bias would be to put it at the front of the body, or at least forward of the hips.
Definitely.
Federal really just rode the marketing wave with that design. It has been dated tech for a while, and really not the best of its generation, known issues with plugging through clothing. I don’t think they did the “Keep the name, revise the product” routine like Speer did/does with the Gold Dot line or Winchester did with their Ranger line, I think it goes SXT to Ranger Talon to Ranger T.
Still better than ball.
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Dogs Playing Pool: lol…nice, how about painting a mural on the side of your car? I can’t see anyone or any spirit not running from that creation. [/quote]
Would paint get it done? Don’t want to take any chances with evil spirits.
Regards,
Robert A
Yes, I agree with having a blade on your support side, something as a last ditch effort to survive. The problem I have encountered in civilian clothes, is the placement of your spare magazines, because, I firmly believe that not carrying at least one reload is like driving your vehicle without a spare tire: stupid.
My magazine carrier is probably a little forward than most, so, I could place it next to the carrier and still be forward of the hip bone, however, no matter what your weapons carry system is, it has to be partially comfortable, secure, and easily accessible. Probably the reason I have enough hip and shoulder holsters to start a mail order business. I also firmly believe that advertising that you are armed leads to nothing but trouble.
Fortunately, the vast majority of people are to busy texting or talking, that minimum concealment is all that is usually necessary. I carry a folder with a clip just to the rear of my left hip. I find that I can still sit down an drive a vehicle without it digging into my side. Everything in civilian concealment is a compromise, to the point that I always buy my clothes, not for fashion trends, but, how well they conceal. A brand of fishing shirts sold by Colombia, one size to large, seems to work well for casual concealment.
I am not expert on knife carry systems and those that i do know about, i dont like. Like you said, there are very few good sheaths. I am thinking about trying out a neck knife carry.
Well, if painting will not protect from the PA. spirits, I saw a replica of a shrunken head hanging from a rear view mirror one time…Damn interesting.
In the interest of Open vs Conceal carry. I would like to hear why so many of you guys say that open carry is such a bad idea? Please persuade me to conceal more often. Now with my job I open carry every day. From time to time I do open carry when I am out and about. I will say sometimes it draws attention from some people but most never bat an eye.
My Taurus is really to big to conceal the way I would like to and I will soon be in the market for something off duty to conceal. However I would like to discuss pros and cons of open and conceal.
[quote]Ranzo wrote:
In the interest of Open vs Conceal carry. I would like to hear why so many of you guys say that open carry is such a bad idea? Please persuade me to conceal more often. Now with my job I open carry every day. From time to time I do open carry when I am out and about. I will say sometimes it draws attention from some people but most never bat an eye.
My Taurus is really to big to conceal the way I would like to and I will soon be in the market for something off duty to conceal. However I would like to discuss pros and cons of open and conceal.[/quote]
Just a quick answer before I have to leave for a detail. Open carry paints a target on your back. If you are not in uniform, I see no reason to show a weapon, yes, you can probably draw a second faster, but, whenever I see someone open carry, and, they are shopping or whatever, I think…Well, I know who is going to get shot first in the back of the head by some asshole.
Once in a food market, I saw a guy carrying a Glock in a Fobus holster. He was in the meat section staring at some steaks. I walked up behind him, leaned over and got a package of hamburger, he never looked up. I could have taken that Glock and shot him before he even turned around. Give yourself the edge, never carry open. Good Topic , looking forward to reading some responses tomorrow.
[quote]idaho wrote:
[quote]Ranzo wrote:
In the interest of Open vs Conceal carry. I would like to hear why so many of you guys say that open carry is such a bad idea? Please persuade me to conceal more often. Now with my job I open carry every day. From time to time I do open carry when I am out and about. I will say sometimes it draws attention from some people but most never bat an eye.
My Taurus is really to big to conceal the way I would like to and I will soon be in the market for something off duty to conceal. However I would like to discuss pros and cons of open and conceal.[/quote]
Just a quick answer before I have to leave for a detail. Open carry paints a target on your back. If you are not in uniform, I see no reason to show a weapon, yes, you can probably draw a second faster, but, whenever I see someone open carry, and, they are shopping or whatever, I think…Well, I know who is going to get shot first in the back of the head by some asshole.
Once in a food market, I saw a guy carrying a Glock in a Fobus holster. He was in the meat section staring at some steaks. I walked up behind him, leaned over and got a package of hamburger, he never looked up. I could have taken that Glock and shot him before he even turned around. Give yourself the edge, never carry open. Good Topic , looking forward to reading some responses tomorrow. [/quote]
Agreed. If I were to commit and act of villainy, I would want to suppress any would-be heroes first. Keep your cards down.
Do you play poker? Do you show your cards to everyone and then bet? If your answer to the second question is “no”, then I think you have the idea.
I just don’t see the point in advertising that I’m armed when I’m off duty. If I can be the proverbial “gray man”, easily forgotten and un-noticed, then I’d prefer to do that. It keeps baddies from targetting me immediately, and from targetting my family when I’m out with them.
I understand the argument for open carry to an extent. One could say that it keeps evil-doers from even THINKING about trying to commit a crime in your presence. Armed society being more polite, and all that. However, mentally unbalanced people, serious criminals, and determined zealots don’t care if you are carrying a weapon. They aren’t going to be deterred by your visible gun. And frankly, it may make you the center of their attention.
What do you feel is the benefit to open carry as opposed to concealed?
[quote]mapwhap wrote:
Do you play poker? Do you show your cards to everyone and then bet? If your answer to the second question is “no”, then I think you have the idea.
I just don’t see the point in advertising that I’m armed when I’m off duty. If I can be the proverbial “gray man”, easily forgotten and un-noticed, then I’d prefer to do that. It keeps baddies from targetting me immediately, and from targetting my family when I’m out with them.
I understand the argument for open carry to an extent. One could say that it keeps evil-doers from even THINKING about trying to commit a crime in your presence. Armed society being more polite, and all that. However, mentally unbalanced people, serious criminals, and determined zealots don’t care if you are carrying a weapon. They aren’t going to be deterred by your visible gun. And frankly, it may make you the center of their attention.
What do you feel is the benefit to open carry as opposed to concealed?
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To answer your question. No I don’t play card games at all, maybe I should learn though.
I do understand the idea of being the “gray man” and not being noticed or becoming a target. I like to call it “ninja” because Im a bit nerdy. I might be wrong about open carry, honestly at a personal level I am on the fence about it. I open carry for work in uniform everyday. Sometimes I am not dressed to conceal and my current holster is not the best for conceal either so I will jut wear it and go. I think for the areas I go into most of the time it really doesn’t matter? Now when I travel out of town I definitely conceal. So for me it depends on the situation.
I see pros and cons for both. I really have never been involved in a situation where someone just comes in blazing who is taking notice of who is wearing a handgun or not. For me with the thug punk asses that live around here showing the piece will keep them away. I kind of feel that if you are concealed and you do have an encounter where you are getting robbed and you have to move your shirt or coat etc to get the weapon it might possibly be too late.? Also in this area Car jackings are prevalent, I find it difficult to throw a shirt or other concealment out of the way to draw while in the car. Often times I will put the gun somewhere else for better access.
I really think this is a good topic of discussion on what is a bad idea and why so I am asking.
[quote]Ranzo wrote:
[quote]mapwhap wrote:
Do you play poker? Do you show your cards to everyone and then bet? If your answer to the second question is “no”, then I think you have the idea.
I just don’t see the point in advertising that I’m armed when I’m off duty. If I can be the proverbial “gray man”, easily forgotten and un-noticed, then I’d prefer to do that. It keeps baddies from targetting me immediately, and from targetting my family when I’m out with them.
I understand the argument for open carry to an extent. One could say that it keeps evil-doers from even THINKING about trying to commit a crime in your presence. Armed society being more polite, and all that. However, mentally unbalanced people, serious criminals, and determined zealots don’t care if you are carrying a weapon. They aren’t going to be deterred by your visible gun. And frankly, it may make you the center of their attention.
What do you feel is the benefit to open carry as opposed to concealed?
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To answer your question. No I don’t play card games at all, maybe I should learn though.
I do understand the idea of being the “gray man” and not being noticed or becoming a target. I like to call it “ninja” because Im a bit nerdy. I might be wrong about open carry, honestly at a personal level I am on the fence about it. I open carry for work in uniform everyday. Sometimes I am not dressed to conceal and my current holster is not the best for conceal either so I will jut wear it and go. I think for the areas I go into most of the time it really doesn’t matter? Now when I travel out of town I definitely conceal. So for me it depends on the situation.
I see pros and cons for both. I really have never been involved in a situation where someone just comes in blazing who is taking notice of who is wearing a handgun or not. For me with the thug punk asses that live around here showing the piece will keep them away. I kind of feel that if you are concealed and you do have an encounter where you are getting robbed and you have to move your shirt or coat etc to get the weapon it might possibly be too late.? Also in this area Car jackings are prevalent, I find it difficult to throw a shirt or other concealment out of the way to draw while in the car. Often times I will put the gun somewhere else for better access.
I really think this is a good topic of discussion on what is a bad idea and why so I am asking.
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You bring up a good point about speed of draw in carrying concealed, yes, if you are not trained in drawing a handgun from your carry system, you will lose precious seconds. However, hopefully your situational awareness will be high enough to give you a few seconds of warning. One of the reasons I like wearing the over sized fishing shirts in the States, it allows me to keep the shirt unbuttoned (t-shirt underneath) and I can draw without any problems. I probably don’t meet Madison Avenue standards, but, I don’t care. These lite shirts were made for Florida Keys fishing, so they are really good in extreme heat.
Not all holsters work for every situation, I believe in having a “system” of holsters which allow me to carry for the threat. Drawing a handgun from behind the hip bone from a seated position, (driving a car, movie theater seat, restaurant booth)is slow and can be fatal. A cross draw or shoulder holster works well here, but, they can cause severe problems if you become involved in a physical struggle, especially in weapon retention, since you and your opponent have equal access to your weapon.
Car Jacking is a popular sport in most parts of the world and extremely well liked in South America. I have at one time wore a shoulder holster just for access and then switch to a hip holster , once I arrive at the destination. I have a custom made cross draw holster , just for car jacking and kidnaps attempts, but, would never use it for street carry. A good compromise is a Blackhawk holster, that can be switched from cross draw to conventional carry. Like I said in my first post, every thing about concealed carry is a trade off. IMHO, the best defense against car jacking or actually any street confrontation, is situational awareness. Being forewarned by subliminal clues, hopefully, will give you a few seconds to either vacate the area or plan your response.
IMHO, always have your gun on your body, I don’t know what you mean by “some where else for access”. Putting a gun on your car seat or in the center console box or under the seat, is asking for trouble. If you need it, too much precious time is wasted in locating it, especially if it is under the seat.
Try different methods of concealed carry, like MapWrap said, you don’t want to show your cards too early.
I actually have a holster that is fixed between the seat and front console so that I can draw at any time while driving. I also find it nice when the nice man asks for your wallet and you reach for it but bring up mr 9mm instead.
It only these weapons could talk…
shotgun
Russian subgun
Very Cool. Were these recovered somewhere?
