[quote]X-Factor wrote:
And the opiate of choice is!?!?[/quote]
I used to get Fentynal sticks and MS Contin. Extreme pain relief. Which turns into rehab a year later, cause it’s so crazy addictive.
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
[quote]X-Factor wrote:
And the opiate of choice is!?!?[/quote]
I used to get Fentynal sticks and MS Contin. Extreme pain relief. Which turns into rehab a year later, cause it’s so crazy addictive.
[/quote]
Ding, Ding, Ding we have a winner,
Sorry to hear that Fentynal and MS are very, very fucking addicting. Just glad to hear you got out of it.
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
Good luck with shitting if you take opiates for very long…
Hello impacted bowels!
And you thought that “Uncle” made you uncomfortable…[/quote]
After my recent surgery, I couldn’t shit for 5 days. I took the recommended stool softeners and whatever else the hospital told me to take. Didn’t help. It really sucked.
I was prescribed Valium and Percaset. It made me feel dumb so I stopped taking it after surgery. I’d rather be in pain than feel dumb. I’m a network engineer so tiny mistakes cause huge problems.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
[quote]X-Factor wrote:
And the opiate of choice is!?!?[/quote]
I used to get Fentynal sticks and MS Contin. Extreme pain relief. Which turns into rehab a year later, cause it’s so crazy addictive.
[/quote]
Ding, Ding, Ding we have a winner,
Sorry to hear that Fentynal and MS are very, very fucking addicting. Just glad to hear you got out of it.[/quote]
Dude, it was a bitch. Like real rehab inpatient hospital. That shit made me totally clinically depressed, I got suicidal and crazy fat and didn’t care about my wife or daughter or myself. Opiates seem fun and all, but I learned the hard way. I’ll take the pain, lift a different way or go to PT before I’d take that shit again.
Slippery slope and all.
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
[quote]X-Factor wrote:
And the opiate of choice is!?!?[/quote]
I used to get Fentynal sticks and MS Contin. Extreme pain relief. Which turns into rehab a year later, cause it’s so crazy addictive.
[/quote]
Ding, Ding, Ding we have a winner,
Sorry to hear that Fentynal and MS are very, very fucking addicting. Just glad to hear you got out of it.[/quote]
Dude, it was a bitch. Like real rehab inpatient hospital. That shit made me totally clinically depressed, I got suicidal and crazy fat and didn’t care about my wife or daughter or myself. Opiates seem fun and all, but I learned the hard way. I’ll take the pain, lift a different way or go to PT before I’d take that shit again.
Slippery slope and all.[/quote]
I have been doing medicine for 20 years believe me I know and when I hurt my back I was prescribed the same things. I know myself, no fucking way I could get on those meds. Hell recently had a huge cyst removed out of my wrist, Dr friend of mine took it out. He gave me script for Lortab 10’s and I did not fill them cause I knew I would end up taking them all.
Pict of surgery
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
[quote]X-Factor wrote:
And the opiate of choice is!?!?[/quote]
I used to get Fentynal sticks and MS Contin. Extreme pain relief. Which turns into rehab a year later, cause it’s so crazy addictive.
[/quote]
Ding, Ding, Ding we have a winner,
Sorry to hear that Fentynal and MS are very, very fucking addicting. Just glad to hear you got out of it.[/quote]
Dude, it was a bitch. Like real rehab inpatient hospital. That shit made me totally clinically depressed, I got suicidal and crazy fat and didn’t care about my wife or daughter or myself. Opiates seem fun and all, but I learned the hard way. I’ll take the pain, lift a different way or go to PT before I’d take that shit again.
Slippery slope and all.[/quote]
I have been doing medicine for 20 years believe me I know and when I hurt my back I was prescribed the same things. I know myself, no fucking way I could get on those meds. Hell recently had a huge cyst removed out of my wrist, Dr friend of mine took it out. He gave me script for Lortab 10’s and I did not fill them cause I knew I would end up taking them all.
Pict of surgery[/quote]
^^^^^
Yikes!
Well, at least you know yourself, smart move. I wish I would have been honest with myself sooner.
Hope ya heal up fast.
General serious question for people still with bad back pain.
What is the smallest you would pick up if you dropped it (by yourself of course)?
I used to leave pennies, but pick up nickels. I dropped a quarter just before on break and said “ahhhhh fuck it!” and left it.
I’d do whole song and dance of kneeling/bending/crouching for a dollar bill though.
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
General serious question for people still with bad back pain.
What is the smallest you would pick up if you dropped it (by yourself of course)?
I used to leave pennies, but pick up nickels. I dropped a quarter just before on break and said “ahhhhh fuck it!” and left it.
I’d do whole song and dance of kneeling/bending/crouching for a dollar bill though.[/quote]
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
[quote]X-Factor wrote:
And the opiate of choice is!?!?[/quote]
I used to get Fentynal sticks and MS Contin. Extreme pain relief. Which turns into rehab a year later, cause it’s so crazy addictive.
[/quote]
You had a doc put you on fetynal? That is pretty rare (I didnt read everything to see if you posted the cause). I can see how you got addicted, fentynal is seriously strong stuff. I have seen several people die from it. Hope you are doing well, I went through rehab myself (365 days inpatient treatment) due to a pain killer problem. I was already in way over my head when I got put on painkillers, so I was going down either way, but heroin really helps you find bottom pretty quickly. To anyone who thinks they should be on pain meds, be careful, once you are aware its too late.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Lol I actually do that for a living now, I screen people to make sure they are not on these meds. [/quote]
Legally or illegally? I.E. are you screening for illicit use, or anything at all. I mean, if you have a legit script, you’d just tell you. No need to test for it.
You got to do what you got to do… [/quote]
I screen for both, sorry but some jobs and job sites prohibit the uses of narcotics. You can not operate a crane and be on insulin or narcotics period. If you lie on your pre-employment physical and then have a + drug screen then you are terminated. Again we are talking about jobs that have safety sensitive issues. [/quote]
Can’t drive a fire truck either…
Which is why I’m home still.
[quote]Dt546 wrote:
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
[quote]X-Factor wrote:
And the opiate of choice is!?!?[/quote]
I used to get Fentynal sticks and MS Contin. Extreme pain relief. Which turns into rehab a year later, cause it’s so crazy addictive.
[/quote]
You had a doc put you on fetynal? That is pretty rare (I didnt read everything to see if you posted the cause). I can see how you got addicted, fentynal is seriously strong stuff. I have seen several people die from it. Hope you are doing well, I went through rehab myself (365 days inpatient treatment) due to a pain killer problem. I was already in way over my head when I got put on painkillers, so I was going down either way, but heroin really helps you find bottom pretty quickly. To anyone who thinks they should be on pain meds, be careful, once you are aware its too late.[/quote]
My wife has some serious back problems (due to a fusion and a stupid PT that did something they shouldn’t have)…
Long story short she sees a pain management clinic once a month and is on the fentynal patch. No end in sight still trying different options to try and knock the pain down to a “more managable” level.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Lol I actually do that for a living now, I screen people to make sure they are not on these meds. [/quote]
Legally or illegally? I.E. are you screening for illicit use, or anything at all. I mean, if you have a legit script, you’d just tell you. No need to test for it.
You got to do what you got to do… [/quote]
I screen for both, sorry but some jobs and job sites prohibit the uses of narcotics. You can not operate a crane and be on insulin or narcotics period. If you lie on your pre-employment physical and then have a + drug screen then you are terminated. Again we are talking about jobs that have safety sensitive issues. [/quote]
Oh well for that, I understand. I work on computers. I was working from my comfy adjustable bed a week post op, and was obviously using pain meds around the clock for weeks. I couldn’t sit up for 2 months. If that were my trade, I would have been out of business. I would have had to either taken long term disability or just suffered.
Still wouldn’t take lyrica. There are other nerve blocks that don’t make you fat as fuck.
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
[quote]X-Factor wrote:
And the opiate of choice is!?!?[/quote]
I used to get Fentynal sticks and MS Contin. Extreme pain relief. Which turns into rehab a year later, cause it’s so crazy addictive.
[/quote]
I didn’t find MS Contin that addictive. I could take them or leave them… But fentynal sticks? Wow! That’s hard core.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Lol I actually do that for a living now, I screen people to make sure they are not on these meds. [/quote]
Legally or illegally? I.E. are you screening for illicit use, or anything at all. I mean, if you have a legit script, you’d just tell you. No need to test for it.
You got to do what you got to do… [/quote]
I screen for both, sorry but some jobs and job sites prohibit the uses of narcotics. You can not operate a crane and be on insulin or narcotics period. If you lie on your pre-employment physical and then have a + drug screen then you are terminated. Again we are talking about jobs that have safety sensitive issues. [/quote]
Oh well for that, I understand. I work on computers. I was working from my comfy adjustable bed a week post op, and was obviously using pain meds around the clock for weeks. I couldn’t sit up for 2 months. If that were my trade, I would have been out of business. I would have had to either taken long term disability or just suffered.
Still wouldn’t take lyrica. There are other nerve blocks that don’t make you fat as fuck.[/quote]
True I was never really sold on lyrica or gabapention.
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
General serious question for people still with bad back pain.
What is the smallest you would pick up if you dropped it (by yourself of course)?
I used to leave pennies, but pick up nickels. I dropped a quarter just before on break and said “ahhhhh fuck it!” and left it.
I’d do whole song and dance of kneeling/bending/crouching for a dollar bill though.[/quote]
I’ll leave nickles… I’ll pick up quarters…
Sadly, my family considers the floor the biggest shelf in the house and I am one who likes order.
[quote]Dt546 wrote:
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
[quote]X-Factor wrote:
And the opiate of choice is!?!?[/quote]
I used to get Fentynal sticks and MS Contin. Extreme pain relief. Which turns into rehab a year later, cause it’s so crazy addictive.
[/quote]
You had a doc put you on fetynal? That is pretty rare (I didnt read everything to see if you posted the cause). I can see how you got addicted, fentynal is seriously strong stuff. I have seen several people die from it. Hope you are doing well, I went through rehab myself (365 days inpatient treatment) due to a pain killer problem. I was already in way over my head when I got put on painkillers, so I was going down either way, but heroin really helps you find bottom pretty quickly. To anyone who thinks they should be on pain meds, be careful, once you are aware its too late.[/quote]
Yeah, but there is use and then there’s going nuts. You have to keep yourself under control. If you can, it’s the best pain treatment. It really is. Other things ‘help’, bubt if you need to really control it, opiates are the way to go. The cautionary fact that they are addictive not withstanding. Basically, if you are chewing more than say 100 mg of oxycodone a day (for severe pain issues) you are in problem territory. In rare cases you could be doing more, but that’s pretty hard core dosing.
Like I said, there is a difference between using and abusing. You have to keep yourself in check, it does require some self control or it can take control. But I don’t want to discount the effectiveness or the necessity for these meds. People do legitimately need them and for them it should be available.
I agree fentynal is rare… I thought you had to be pretty much dying to get that shit.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Dt546 wrote:
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
[quote]X-Factor wrote:
And the opiate of choice is!?!?[/quote]
I used to get Fentynal sticks and MS Contin. Extreme pain relief. Which turns into rehab a year later, cause it’s so crazy addictive.
[/quote]
You had a doc put you on fetynal? That is pretty rare (I didnt read everything to see if you posted the cause). I can see how you got addicted, fentynal is seriously strong stuff. I have seen several people die from it. Hope you are doing well, I went through rehab myself (365 days inpatient treatment) due to a pain killer problem. I was already in way over my head when I got put on painkillers, so I was going down either way, but heroin really helps you find bottom pretty quickly. To anyone who thinks they should be on pain meds, be careful, once you are aware its too late.[/quote]
Yeah, but there is use and then there’s going nuts. You have to keep yourself under control. If you can, it’s the best pain treatment. It really is. Other things ‘help’, bubt if you need to really control it, opiates are the way to go. The cautionary fact that they are addictive not withstanding. Basically, if you are chewing more than say 100 mg of oxycodone a day (for severe pain issues) you are in problem territory. In rare cases you could be doing more, but that’s pretty hard core dosing.
Like I said, there is a difference between using and abusing. You have to keep yourself in check, it does require some self control or it can take control. But I don’t want to discount the effectiveness or the necessity for these meds. People do legitimately need them and for them it should be available.
I agree fentynal is rare… I thought you had to be pretty much dying to get that shit.[/quote]
Problems for Dr’s prescribing this medication is Pain is so subjective, we do not currently have a measuring stick. With blood pressure or thyroid issues we can adjust the medication with objective measurable results. Pain is just what the patient says, so Dr’s fall on a bell curve on how they dispense this medication.
You do realize there are Dr’s out there prescribing Methadone for pain management right? You may have a great Dr, but there are more “bad” patients and Dr’s out there then you really want to know about.
[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Lol I actually do that for a living now, I screen people to make sure they are not on these meds. [/quote]
Legally or illegally? I.E. are you screening for illicit use, or anything at all. I mean, if you have a legit script, you’d just tell you. No need to test for it.
You got to do what you got to do… [/quote]
I screen for both, sorry but some jobs and job sites prohibit the uses of narcotics. You can not operate a crane and be on insulin or narcotics period. If you lie on your pre-employment physical and then have a + drug screen then you are terminated. Again we are talking about jobs that have safety sensitive issues. [/quote]
Can’t drive a fire truck either…
Which is why I’m home still.[/quote]
Like I said, I can understand it for ‘high safety’ jobs. Some of those jobs have such high liability rates already that you can’t take any chances. Most people don’t have that kind of job.
I could do my job drunk and stoned while getting a blow job and a hooker licking my ass and my eyes closed with one hand. That doesn’t mean I would, just means I can.
I, however, could not do my job in the throws of a hard core intestinal virus. I could hardly move at all…
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Dt546 wrote:
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
[quote]X-Factor wrote:
And the opiate of choice is!?!?[/quote]
I used to get Fentynal sticks and MS Contin. Extreme pain relief. Which turns into rehab a year later, cause it’s so crazy addictive.
[/quote]
You had a doc put you on fetynal? That is pretty rare (I didnt read everything to see if you posted the cause). I can see how you got addicted, fentynal is seriously strong stuff. I have seen several people die from it. Hope you are doing well, I went through rehab myself (365 days inpatient treatment) due to a pain killer problem. I was already in way over my head when I got put on painkillers, so I was going down either way, but heroin really helps you find bottom pretty quickly. To anyone who thinks they should be on pain meds, be careful, once you are aware its too late.[/quote]
Yeah, but there is use and then there’s going nuts. You have to keep yourself under control. If you can, it’s the best pain treatment. It really is. Other things ‘help’, bubt if you need to really control it, opiates are the way to go. The cautionary fact that they are addictive not withstanding. Basically, if you are chewing more than say 100 mg of oxycodone a day (for severe pain issues) you are in problem territory. In rare cases you could be doing more, but that’s pretty hard core dosing.
Like I said, there is a difference between using and abusing. You have to keep yourself in check, it does require some self control or it can take control. But I don’t want to discount the effectiveness or the necessity for these meds. People do legitimately need them and for them it should be available.
I agree fentynal is rare… I thought you had to be pretty much dying to get that shit.[/quote]
Problems for Dr’s prescribing this medication is Pain is so subjective, we do not currently have a measuring stick. With blood pressure or thyroid issues we can adjust the medication with objective measurable results. Pain is just what the patient says, so Dr’s fall on a bell curve on how they dispense this medication.
You do realize there are Dr’s out there prescribing Methadone for pain management right? You may have a great Dr, but there are more “bad” patients and Dr’s out there then you really want to know about.[/quote]
Yeah, but it’s just something you have to deal with. People will abuse shit. That’s just a fact, but you cannot screw the many for the few. I prefer the more liberal ones. Often the conservative ones leave you in pain, and why? Ideology. Since it subjective, at some point you just have to trust people, or just don’t be a dr. If you think everybody is a liar, and out to get off, then screw you, your in the wrong business.
If you happen to enjoy a treatment you need, I don’t see a problem with that. If you are in constant pain, a little joy in your life is not a bad thing. It’s when you go to extraordinary measures to get the shit.
[quote]Dt546 wrote:
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
[quote]X-Factor wrote:
And the opiate of choice is!?!?[/quote]
I used to get Fentynal sticks and MS Contin. Extreme pain relief. Which turns into rehab a year later, cause it’s so crazy addictive.
[/quote]
You had a doc put you on fetynal? That is pretty rare (I didnt read everything to see if you posted the cause). I can see how you got addicted, fentynal is seriously strong stuff. I have seen several people die from it. Hope you are doing well, I went through rehab myself (365 days inpatient treatment) due to a pain killer problem. I was already in way over my head when I got put on painkillers, so I was going down either way, but heroin really helps you find bottom pretty quickly. To anyone who thinks they should be on pain meds, be careful, once you are aware its too late.[/quote]
I went to a Pain Managment Doc (read: expensive office visit, get scrips for what you want) 6-8 1200 mcg sticks a day…
She got shut down a while back.