Back Filling

Say you didnt have any larger sized pins than say 25’s. and you have amps to draw out of. what would one think of snapping off the top pulling the plunger out of the syringe and pretty much dumping the contents into the syringe that way?

There is no way this shit would draw into the syringe through a 25g, especially when you cant hold it upside down like a vile.

thoughts?

There is nothing wrong with that except the possibility you wouldnt get a clean break - losing your gear…

I have used that technique for a number of drugs for a number of reasons. But be careful to make sure the needle will allow the liquid to pass at all though…

Are pinz harder to get in germany than in the US? It’s so easy here, I’d just say why risk anything when you can cheaply and (over here) easily get some properly gauged pinz for your problem. lol

DG

I have drawn with 25g pins from an amp before, no problem. Have you tried?

No i can get them no prob im just being lazy and dont feel like waiting to order some 18g or soemthing.

Ya it will draw the oil it just takes soooo long it seems. Some of the stuff ive used it wouldnt draw unless it was pressurized in a vial and held upside down. We’ll see as i dont have the amps yet.

Im sure ill end up ordering some 18g pins just wanted to get feedback in case i decided no too. I know it gets done all the time with small amounts and insulin pins just didnt know about regular amounts.

If I can pull oil with an insulin pin you can do so with a 25G. You just have to be patient.

On a side note, can anyone explain in detail how to properly back load a syringe? The one time I tried I succeeded in nothing other than making a huge mess.

Pull the plunger out.
Pour in the oil (make sure needle and cap are on the syringe) to below the full volume of the barrel(say on a 1ml syringe-0.9ml)
Put the plunger in the end of the barrel just ever so slightly, not fully - but just enough to block the end and stop the contents escaping.
This should ensure that none or very little is pushed through the needle at the other end.
Turn the syringe so that the needle is facing the sky/ceiling and tap the barrel gently to make sure all the liquid is away from the needle end.
Push the plunger in so it is secured inside the barrel normally.

da-daa!

[quote] Brook wrote:
Pull the plunger out.
Pour in the oil (make sure needle and cap are on the syringe) to below the full volume of the barrel(say on a 1ml syringe-0.9ml)
Put the plunger in the end of the barrel just ever so slightly, not fully - but just enough to block the end and stop the contents escaping.
This should ensure that none or very little is pushed through the needle at the other end.
Turn the syringe so that the needle is facing the sky/ceiling and tap the barrel gently to make sure all the liquid is away from the needle end.
Push the plunger in so it is secured inside the barrel normally.

da-daa![/quote]

While we’re on the topic of syringes, here’s a noob question I never got around to asking. I know to not use needles more than once, but let’s say I have 75mg of Tren, 300mg of Test, 250IU of HCG, and 1ml of B12 Supplement to inject.

And also, how should I store HCG? Will I have to buy a vial to hold it since I plan on doing E3D 250IU injections?

Mix the test and tren and then the b12 and hcg. Thats just 2 injections.

Often i inject one oil and then use a new needle for the next oil… same barrel though.

I assume that 300mg test and 75mg of tren will add up to 1.95ml? (250mg/ml-Test, 100mg/ml Tren)
if so then that can be put most places - 2ml is the highest recommended amount of a depot injection to prevent abscess. Lots of guys do more obviously without a problem…

JJ

[quote] Brook wrote:
Mix the test and tren and then the b12 and hcg. Thats just 2 injections.

Often i inject one oil and then use a new needle for the next oil… same barrel though.

I assume that 300mg test and 75mg of tren will add up to 1.95ml? (250mg/ml-Test, 100mg/ml Tren)
if so then that can be put most places - 2ml is the highest recommended amount of a depot injection to prevent abscess. Lots of guys do more obviously without a problem…

JJ[/quote]

What about storing the HCG? If I wanna use just 250IU’s of it, I have to make all 5,000 IU’s of it. What do I do with the other 4,750IU’s of HCG at the beginning? I was thinking of storing it in a vial.

in a fridge. i dont think it keeps long, IIRC a month… but i am not 100% on that… look at the profile somewhere i bet it says there…

[quote] Brook wrote:
in a fridge. i dont think it keeps long, IIRC a month… but i am not 100% on that… look at the profile somewhere i bet it says there…[/quote]

Just did some research. I think it might last longer like 2 months or so in a fridge. Some guys replied in threads from other forums that they just kept it all in a syringe in their fridge and switched out needles every time.

Just had a quick look. with bacteriostatic water it is not going to grow cultures, but it will lose potency so an increase in dose may be needed over months of storage(2-4).

If it is reconstituted with just sterile water, bacterium will grow in it even if refrigerated, and thus will cause infection readily.
I personally wouldnt use reconstituted HCG past 3-4 weeks if it is with sterile water, and if it is with bac. water, i would use it up within 2 months. Both need to be refrigerated of course, but we knew that at least.

That is just my personal tastes from the information given via a quick google search…

;p

JJ

Heres a neat little trick that most wont actually know. Once you pop the top off an amp you can actually tip it upside down. The contents will not pour out once upside down and you can then draw it from the amp.

Thats the way it is done within the medical profession and you dont have to worry about scraping the needle all over the side of the amp and dulling it.

Really? how would the oil not pour out when the top is snapped off??? some type of vacuum or something im not aware of obviously lol

I found it rather hard to believe as well as in the past with any amp ive used ive pulled the solution out right side up.

However thats the way we practiced drawing it out in class and it surely did not pour out as I suspected it would.

Crazy things you learn in school.

[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
Heres a neat little trick that most wont actually know. Once you pop the top off an amp you can actually tip it upside down. The contents will not pour out once upside down and you can then draw it from the amp.

Thats the way it is done within the medical profession and you dont have to worry about scraping the needle all over the side of the amp and dulling it.[/quote]

That is absolutely awesome.

To tell the truth, today was my last injection on this cycle, but I’m now thinking of extending it one last day just so that I can try this.

Thanks, LillGuy!

[quote]Game_over wrote:
Really? how would the oil not pour out when the top is snapped off??? some type of vacuum or something im not aware of obviously lol[/quote]

Yes. Actually it makes perfect sense. Air cannot get in, as the oil is thick and will provide a seal around the very small surface area of the top of the amp, and, because new air cannot move in, the oil will remain suspended. That’s fucking awesome.

[quote]BestDaddyEver wrote:
Brook wrote:
in a fridge. i dont think it keeps long, IIRC a month… but i am not 100% on that… look at the profile somewhere i bet it says there…

Just did some research. I think it might last longer like 2 months or so in a fridge. Some guys replied in threads from other forums that they just kept it all in a syringe in their fridge and switched out needles every time.[/quote]

Load HCG into insulin syringes and keep them in the fridge and they work great for a pretty long time. I’m not sure why anyone would have to keep them for much more than a month (mathmatically speaking), and if you don’t, I can tell you from personal experience that everything stays working just the way that it should very late into the month.

Also there were no sterility issues with me. I always went ahead and swabbed the needle one more time with an alcohol pad but this was probably not even necessary.

[quote]Cortes wrote:
BestDaddyEver wrote:
Brook wrote:
in a fridge. i dont think it keeps long, IIRC a month… but i am not 100% on that… look at the profile somewhere i bet it says there…

Just did some research. I think it might last longer like 2 months or so in a fridge. Some guys replied in threads from other forums that they just kept it all in a syringe in their fridge and switched out needles every time.

Load HCG into insulin syringes and keep them in the fridge and they work great for a pretty long time. I’m not sure why anyone would have to keep them for much more than a month (mathmatically speaking), and if you don’t, I can tell you from personal experience that everything stays working just the way that it should very late into the month.

Also there were no sterility issues with me. I always went ahead and swabbed the needle one more time with an alcohol pad but this was probably not even necessary.[/quote]

I have the extra needles to swap out each time, so I’ll just do that. I like safety. :slight_smile: