Babies Have Morals

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]kamui wrote:

What is an atheist?

The prefix a-: without, lack of
And the root word theos: deity

Where did “ism” come into this? At any rate, why are you playing semantics games?

Babies have no concept of God, ergo atheists.[/quote]

Babies know love, we say God is love, ergo babies do know God. They just don’t know how people managed to fuck up knowledge of God. If anything, they know God better than we do.

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

I don’t think the concept of god in any form is simple at all for a baby
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Neither is the concept of parents being same-like material beings who age and die, making light suddenly come on in the room due to technological victories underpinned by laws and theories of Chemistry and Physics.
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The good thing about Chemistry and Physics is that they don’t cease to affect you just because you don’t know anything about them.[/quote]

Don’t look now, but God and religion just affected you, by a act of your own will. Just sayin’
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Religion affects me everyday. I’m still undecided on God.

He’s not undecided on you. Or babies.

Maybe the racist tendencies of these babies is a testament to our tribal nature.

When we get older, wiser, we indulge in our tribal desires through other vehicles - sports ( look at my avatar of choice!) and politics( look at the forum im posting in!) come to mind.

Just spit ballin’ a hypothesis.

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Maybe the racist tendencies of these babies is a testament to our tribal nature.

When we get older, wiser, we indulge in our tribal desires through other vehicles - sports ( look at my avatar of choice!) and politics( look at the forum im posting in!) come to mind.

Just spit ballin’ a hypothesis.[/quote]

I wouldn’t disagree with the idea that our genetics as a species play a role in our behavior. What I disagree with is that morals are defined and controlled by humans. In other words, if humans did not exist, morals still would.

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

I don’t think the concept of god in any form is simple at all for a baby
[/quote]

Neither is the concept of parents being same-like material beings who age and die, making light suddenly come on in the room due to technological victories underpinned by laws and theories of Chemistry and Physics.
[/quote]

The good thing about Chemistry and Physics is that they don’t cease to affect you just because you don’t know anything about them.[/quote]

Don’t look now, but God and religion just affected you, by a act of your own will. Just sayin’
[/quote]

Religion affects me everyday. I’m still undecided on God.[/quote]

No God , no religion.
No

Oh, what do we have here… another thread started by raj in order to argue religion with everybody. You certainly take every chance you have to mock religion, don’t you?

CS

[quote]

What is an atheist?

The prefix a-: without, lack of
And the root word theos: deity

Where did “ism” come into this?[/quote]

It’s not my fault if the word is atheism, and not atheia.
Atheist, not atheous.

-ism is there, and it’s there for a reason.
Namely : atheism is a philosophical stance.

[quote]At any rate, why are you playing semantics games?

Babies have no concept of God, ergo atheists.[/quote]

Well, if this is valid then…
Animals have no concept of God, ergo atheists ?
Trees have no concept of God, ergo atheists ?
Rocks have no concept of God, ergo atheists ?

And i’m the one who play semantics games ? Seriously ?
I just completed the etymology. Translated the word. Nothing more.

Babies (animals, trees and rocks) have no concept at all, ergo that’s irrelevant.
Period.

I understand that you’re trying to equate atheism with some kind of natural “default position” to avoid the “it’s just another belief” argument.
But that’s simply not true.
And no amount of dubious, truncated etymology will make it true.

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

I don’t think the concept of god in any form is simple at all for a baby
[/quote]

Neither is the concept of parents being same-like material beings who age and die, making light suddenly come on in the room due to technological victories underpinned by laws and theories of Chemistry and Physics.
[/quote]

The good thing about Chemistry and Physics is that they don’t cease to affect you just because you don’t know anything about them.[/quote]

Don’t look now, but God and religion just affected you, by a act of your own will. Just sayin’
[/quote]

Religion affects me everyday. I’m still undecided on God.[/quote]

No God , no religion.
No [/quote]

No what?

Your religion affects me even if I do not believe in your God. It would be incredibly naive to think otherwise. Just as Islam and Hinduism affect my life.

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

I don’t think the concept of god in any form is simple at all for a baby
[/quote]

Neither is the concept of parents being same-like material beings who age and die, making light suddenly come on in the room due to technological victories underpinned by laws and theories of Chemistry and Physics.
[/quote]

The good thing about Chemistry and Physics is that they don’t cease to affect you just because you don’t know anything about them.[/quote]

Don’t look now, but God and religion just affected you, by a act of your own will. Just sayin’
[/quote]

Religion affects me everyday. I’m still undecided on God.[/quote]

No God , no religion.
No [/quote]

No what?

Your religion affects me even if I do not believe in your God. It would be incredibly naive to think otherwise. Just as Islam and Hinduism affect my life.[/quote]

Just saying without God, there is no religion, your belief not withstanding.

Likewise, people’s lack of belief affect my life too.