AZ Immigration Law Signed

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:
We can get this country back, but people have to make tough decisions, and willing to give selflessly of themselves. It is about all of us, and not the individual’s “American Dream.”[/quote]

This is the movement I am seeing around me, where people are tired of being sick and tired. The days of political correctness are over, because we now see what the price of that is. Massive illegal immigration killing states. Guys like the Fort Hood shooter, which could have been prevented had people spoken up and not worried about offending people. You see the kids who were sent home for wearing the US flag, now speaking up and saying “fuck you, these are our colors and we wear them when and where we want.”

We are seeing a shift, the status quo is changing in our favor. All the protective mechanisms used by the left (being called a racist, a xenophobe, insensitive towards a group of people, etc) are no longer effective. The right will no longer just shut up and take it.

Interesting side note - the governor’s race here in Cali has taken a huge turn, all because of this immigration law. Meg Whitman, the Republican who was leading by 50 points, came out against the AZ law. Steve Poizner, another Republican who endorsed the law, has now caught up, because he openly spoke up about agreeing with this law. A 50 point deficit now gone, it is neck and neck.

The American people like this law, no doubts about it. [/quote]

There are 2 Republicans running for Governor, or is it a primary? Do you think California has seen the error of its ways, and it turning to maybe be more conservative? I am thinking that it is moving more to the center and away from the far left. Am I reading this correctly, or am I off base. [/quote]

This is the primary. But Whitman, was the former CEO of Ebay, and she basically tried to buy the election, she has crazy money.

I think California has seen the errors of it’s ways, that so many entitlement programs cannot be sustained, especially when the economy tanks, and you chase all businesses out of the state from ridiculous taxes and fees. Then the statewide global warming bill causing rises in energy prices by 38% certainly won’t help.

Funny story, a man wearing a “Viva Los 1070” shirt was thrown out of the Phoenix Suns game. He was not a clown looking for trouble, but the CEO of Republic Monetary Exchange.

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/phoenixmetro/central/story/Fan-Immigration-shirt-got-me-kicked-out-of-Suns/srBe4DJ3XkmQODXfWQ-Ycw.cspx

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An excerpt from the CNN article

" . . . .
PHOENIX – As the Phoenix Suns took the court last week wearing “Los Suns” jerseys in protest of Arizona’s new immigration law, Jim Clark had his own protest.

Clark, CEO of Republic Monetary Exchange, had his own shirt made in response to the team’s move. The Phoenix resident wore his bright orange long-sleeved shirt that read “Viva Los 1070” in the Wednesday playoff game against the San Antonio Spurs.

Clark said he decided to wear the shirt after learning the Suns were taking a stance against Arizona’s new immigration law, known as Senate Bill 1070.

“I didn’t go there (game) to hear about politics, I went there to be entertained,” said Clark.

For decades, Clark says he has been a strong supporter of the team.

“I would say since 1968, maybe 200 games I’ve been to,” said Clark.

He said he purchased the tickets through a broker and the seats were behind the Spurs bench.

Soon after the game started, according to Clark, he was approached by security at US Airways Center.

“They (security) looked like secret service talking on their microphones, then they told me I either had to take off the shirt, turn it inside out or leave, so they decided to throw us out,” said Clark.

Clark said he and a friend argued with members of the security staff outside the building and were eventually allowed to return to their seats.

“The irony of the whole thing is, they (security) wanted to see our tickets, they wanted to see our papers, they wanted to see if everything was in order with us,” said Clark. “When we got back to the seats, you had a lot of cheers, but there were also some boos and hisses at us.”
. . . . ."

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I think Cali is going to see it’s own storm of that type , if Cali legalizes Marijuana , Arizona will not want their residents going over there and copping. The Federal will have to position them selves real careful.

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If nothing else I am glad that Arizona has brought this to the attention of everyone in the US from the legal citizens, to the legal visitors, to the illegal criminals in the country. Politeness and being politically correct has led to a lot of tragedy here in the states and I don’t just mean with the border jumpers. I mean with not wanting to offend someone by questioning why they are following you, or why they are doing something strange, or why they are barefoot on a plane.

People are going to vote how they really feel about this issue. Provided it doesn’t get shunted to the background again.

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Absolute ran this ad in mexico a few years ago

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I prefer this one though

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http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/05/25/doj-lawyers-draft-challenge-to-az-law/

Apparently to DOJ is probably going to challenge the law because it “impedes federal law”. I hope this pisses off most Americans.

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The Federal Law they aren’t enforcing? Yea good luck with that one. Let them challenge it, they would basically have to prove that their own Federal Law (already passed by Congress and upheld by the SCOTUS) is Unconstitutional. All the while, pissing the a massive voting block as November approaches. Great job Obama, you have single handedly postured yourself into being a one term president.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]jb2001 wrote:

Absolute ran this ad in mexico a few years ago[/quote]

I wonder if Absolut runs a similar ad in Spain that shows Mexico still a colony of the Spanish empire?
[/quote]

haha!

Why not an Aztec, or Incan map?

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Images of "Immigrant " crossing areas. These people are true blue man…waiting to shit all over america, and their fist step in that direction is here.

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[quote]John S. wrote:

[quote]gangstpmp3 wrote:
you know its easy to speak when your belly is full, you have no fucking idea what life is like for those people down there. if you were in their position you would do the same shit so please STFU[/quote]

I would take my country back because I am not a pussy liberal like yourself.[/quote]

Please.

How often were you hungry or could not feed your kids?

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]John S. wrote:

[quote]gangstpmp3 wrote:
you know its easy to speak when your belly is full, you have no fucking idea what life is like for those people down there. if you were in their position you would do the same shit so please STFU[/quote]

I would take my country back because I am not a pussy liberal like yourself.[/quote]

Please.

How often were you hungry or could not feed your kids?

[/quote]

Have your country send them social services dollars. If they already do, then send more.

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[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]John S. wrote:

[quote]gangstpmp3 wrote:
you know its easy to speak when your belly is full, you have no fucking idea what life is like for those people down there. if you were in their position you would do the same shit so please STFU[/quote]

I would take my country back because I am not a pussy liberal like yourself.[/quote]

Please.

How often were you hungry or could not feed your kids?

[/quote]

Have your country send them social services dollars. If they already do, then send more. [/quote]

Sweet.

You can bullshit all you want and they will still get into your country.

Because they need to and will not accept the cards that destiny has dealt them and they shit on your stupid laws.

In other words, they are exactly what you need you whiny, spoiled brats.

People like them made your country great by fleeing people like you.

Deal with it or dont, but if you think that any one of them is just going to roll over and die because you print some words on a piece of paper and call it a “law” or that everyone who does not immediately roll on his belly and spreads em is a “criminal” you need to grow up, seriously.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]John S. wrote:

[quote]gangstpmp3 wrote:
you know its easy to speak when your belly is full, you have no fucking idea what life is like for those people down there. if you were in their position you would do the same shit so please STFU[/quote]

I would take my country back because I am not a pussy liberal like yourself.[/quote]

Please.

How often were you hungry or could not feed your kids?

[/quote]

Have your country send them social services dollars. If they already do, then send more. [/quote]

Sweet.

You can bullshit all you want and they will still get into your country.

Because they need to and will not accept the cards that destiny has dealt them and they shit on your stupid laws.

In other words, they are exactly what you need you whiny, spoiled brats.

People like them made your country great by fleeing people like you.

Deal with it or dont, but if you think that any one of them is just going to roll over and die because you print some words on a piece of paper and call it a “law” or that everyone who does not immediately roll on his belly and spreads em is a “criminal” you need to grow up, seriously.

[/quote]

Please.

How many Mexicans illegally enter your country stealing money out of your pocket and committing large numbers of crimes?

You can bullshit all you want, but it isn’t your country and it isn’t your money.

If Mexicans don’t want to accept the state of their country, maybe they should do something to make it better.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]John S. wrote:

[quote]gangstpmp3 wrote:
you know its easy to speak when your belly is full, you have no fucking idea what life is like for those people down there. if you were in their position you would do the same shit so please STFU[/quote]

I would take my country back because I am not a pussy liberal like yourself.[/quote]

Please.

How often were you hungry or could not feed your kids?

[/quote]

Have your country send them social services dollars. If they already do, then send more. [/quote]

Sweet.

You can bullshit all you want and they will still get into your country.

Because they need to and will not accept the cards that destiny has dealt them and they shit on your stupid laws.

In other words, they are exactly what you need you whiny, spoiled brats.

People like them made your country great by fleeing people like you.

Deal with it or dont, but if you think that any one of them is just going to roll over and die because you print some words on a piece of paper and call it a “law” or that everyone who does not immediately roll on his belly and spreads em is a “criminal” you need to grow up, seriously.

[/quote]

Please.

How many Mexicans illegally enter your country stealing money out of your pocket and committing large numbers of crimes?

You can bullshit all you want, but it isn’t your country and it isn’t your money.

If Mexicans don’t want to accept the state of their country, maybe they should do something to make it better.[/quote]

ORLY?

DO you take personal responsibilty for the 500000 thousand children who died and whose death was “worth it” because it detained Hussein?

For the hundreds of thousands of people that died because of questionable wars, the “war on drugs” or similar shit like that?

Because if you dont, why would you expect that Mexicans would, and how come you are so extra special that you live by different rules than them?

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]John S. wrote:

[quote]gangstpmp3 wrote:
you know its easy to speak when your belly is full, you have no fucking idea what life is like for those people down there. if you were in their position you would do the same shit so please STFU[/quote]

I would take my country back because I am not a pussy liberal like yourself.[/quote]

Please.

How often were you hungry or could not feed your kids?

[/quote]

Have your country send them social services dollars. If they already do, then send more. [/quote]

Sweet.

You can bullshit all you want and they will still get into your country.

Because they need to and will not accept the cards that destiny has dealt them and they shit on your stupid laws.

In other words, they are exactly what you need you whiny, spoiled brats.

People like them made your country great by fleeing people like you.

Deal with it or dont, but if you think that any one of them is just going to roll over and die because you print some words on a piece of paper and call it a “law” or that everyone who does not immediately roll on his belly and spreads em is a “criminal” you need to grow up, seriously.

[/quote]

Your answer is for us to throw our borders wide open, thus without question (it’s inarguable) destroying our social services. Now, of course, since this is your objective in the first place, you’re aware of this. In fact, you’ve stated that if we didn’t have social services, this would be a non-issue. So don’t sit there and try to play the caring type. Don’t go getting all righteous. For you, it’s counter to your ideology. One we’ve all heard plenty about.

You’re aware of the problem of our social services and public goods. You’re aware of the social cost. So much so that you advise us to scrap them in order to dampen the incentive. So they’ll choose to ‘die’ at home or ‘die’ in our streets, basically. Don’t come playing at Orion the big-hearted.

And just because you wish to pay somewhat above 3rd world wages for someone happy with a just- above-3rd world-existence, in a 1st world nation, so you might have your shrubs pruned and driveway poured, while throwing your lower class fellow citizen–who traditionally did the work–under the bus, don’t expect me to nominate you for a peace prize. Not everything is about the bottom dollar. Look homeword and hire your own forgotten citizen.

Some of us don’t fantacize ourselves as wealthy corporate princes, overseeing a teeming throng of ‘more desperate than the next’ laborers, content (for now) with our table scraps and some floor space to sleep on.

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[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]John S. wrote:

[quote]gangstpmp3 wrote:
you know its easy to speak when your belly is full, you have no fucking idea what life is like for those people down there. if you were in their position you would do the same shit so please STFU[/quote]

I would take my country back because I am not a pussy liberal like yourself.[/quote]

Please.

How often were you hungry or could not feed your kids?

[/quote]

Have your country send them social services dollars. If they already do, then send more. [/quote]

Sweet.

You can bullshit all you want and they will still get into your country.

Because they need to and will not accept the cards that destiny has dealt them and they shit on your stupid laws.

In other words, they are exactly what you need you whiny, spoiled brats.

People like them made your country great by fleeing people like you.

Deal with it or dont, but if you think that any one of them is just going to roll over and die because you print some words on a piece of paper and call it a “law” or that everyone who does not immediately roll on his belly and spreads em is a “criminal” you need to grow up, seriously.

[/quote]

Your answer is for us to throw our borders wide open, thus without question (it’s inarguable) destroying our social services. Now, of course, since this is your objective in the first place, you’re aware of this. In fact, you’ve stated that if we didn’t have social services, this would be a non-issue. So don’t sit there and try to play the caring type. Don’t go getting all righteous. For you, it’s counter to your ideology. One we’ve all heard plenty about.

You’re aware of the problem of our social services and public goods. You’re aware of the social cost. So much so that you advise us to scrap them in order to dampen the incentive. So they’ll choose to ‘die’ at home or ‘die’ in our streets, basically. Don’t come playing at Orion the big-hearted.

And just because you wish to pay somewhat above 3rd world wages for someone happy with a just- above-3rd world-existence, in a 1st world nation, so you might have your shrubs pruned and driveway poured, while throwing your lower class fellow citizen–who traditionally did the work under the bus–don’t expect me to nominate you for a peace prize. Not everything is about the bottom dollar. Look homeword and hire your own forgotten citizen.

Some of us don’t fantacize ourselves as wealthy corporate princes, overseeing a teeming throng of ‘more desperate than the next’ laborers, content (for now) with your table scraps and some floor space to sleep on. [/quote]

This is nonsense.

I know how hard it is for them because I know how hard it was, and very easily could be again if I make too many mistakes, for me.

I do not fancy myself anything, but I prefer to live in the real world because otherwise I might have to sleep under a bridge.

You can indulge in your regulated market fantasies as much as you want, but in the real world peopel will go to great lenghts to make ends meet and there is nothing short of a police state to change that.

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orion is spouting his doctrines but not making any sense or actually coming up with a solution but again enjoying his mouth frothing ravings about how terrible the US is and the policies for protecting the US citizens.

Gotta ignore that guy because he will support the Mexicans for pursuing their dreams and denounce the Americans for protecting theirs.

That’s fine. The laws will be passed, the laws will be enforced to the best of the regulatory authorities abilities. That’s all that I can ask for.

I will vote for those that support my ideals and hope for a better solution in the future.

Thank goodness Arizona has pursued this legislation because it is finally bringing this issue to the forefront where it needs to be.