Avg Obese Woman Gets 1hr Excercise Per Year

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[quote]ZJStrope wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
Obesity doesn’t prevent someones offspring from surviving so there would be no advantage to having the ability to reduce your appetite when food is in excess. Unlike the opposite, being able to pack away as much as possible at once, that is highly advantageous to survival and makes sense that it would be a trait that would not die out.
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I would imagine sometime in the past it actually was a factor though. You know, like back when the velociraptors are chasing you and all you can do is waddle away.[/quote]

I think fat storage as a calorie reservoir is vastly overblown. The numbers I’ve seen 10% bodyfat would give you a month or more of calories. Basically, you’d have deficiency problems first and adding more fat than that really wouldnÃ??Ã?¢??t help survive longer.[/quote]

Well, if an enormous amount of blubber really added that much of a survivial benefit we would instinctively find it attractive. [/quote]

It is attractive in poorer nations.
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Isn’t that because it is a sign of status in those nations? Only the rich can afford to be fat in a poor country.

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[quote]ZJStrope wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
Obesity doesn’t prevent someones offspring from surviving so there would be no advantage to having the ability to reduce your appetite when food is in excess. Unlike the opposite, being able to pack away as much as possible at once, that is highly advantageous to survival and makes sense that it would be a trait that would not die out.
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I would imagine sometime in the past it actually was a factor though. You know, like back when the velociraptors are chasing you and all you can do is waddle away.[/quote]

I think fat storage as a calorie reservoir is vastly overblown. The numbers I’ve seen 10% bodyfat would give you a month or more of calories. Basically, you’d have deficiency problems first and adding more fat than that really wouldnÃ??Ã?¢??t help survive longer.[/quote]

Well, if an enormous amount of blubber really added that much of a survivial benefit we would instinctively find it attractive. [/quote]

It is attractive in poorer nations.
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So if I dropped a female mannatee into Ethiopia they would all get AN ERECTION SON!?!

And rememeber, there is curves and there is rolls.

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[quote]orion wrote:

So if I dropped a female mannatee into Ethiopia they would all get AN ERECTION SON!?!

And rememeber, there is curves and there is rolls. [/quote]

Hah! Well, it’s an experiment I’d love to see.

Although this is anecdotal, there is a pretty large market for those BBWs in America.

I suppose there are extremeophiles everywhere though. Some people love the rolls, some people love the skeletons, but most people love something in between.

ANYWHO, I think one could make a general argument that to get to the obesity levels we see today in America, it would be near impossible to get like that back in the day. There just wasn’t enough food and sitting around for most people.

Remember, most genetic things form b/c of evolution/Darwinism. Human beings never needed to throttle their fat gain to survive as a species and that won’t change today. We’ll continue to accommodate and aid in the survival of obese people as predicted in a movie which should rival Nostradamus: Wall-E

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[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
Remember, most genetic things form b/c of evolution/Darwinism. Human beings never needed to throttle their fat gain to survive as a species and that won’t change today. We’ll continue to accommodate and aid in the survival of obese people as predicted in a movie which should rival Nostradamus: Wall-E[/quote]

I still believe that Wall-E is Pixar’s first attempt to make a horror film. Imo, it succeeded brilliantly.

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[quote]magick wrote:

But wouldn’t that merely mean that the entire concept of “X is heritable” isn’t as “blame-proof” as people seem to use it as?

What I mean is this. When you hear people say that BMI is largely determined by your genes, that some people have genes that predispose them to eating, and so on and so forth, you typically assume that you are just meant to be that way. That you are just inevitably determined to be fat, etc.
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Yes. I was not saying that there was no heritability factor in obesity–quite obviously there is some portion of the human race truly genetically predisposed to be fat. It is influenced by genes as are any number of other things in the body. I was responding to more of what I see in the modern “it’s my genes! Not me” version of “heritability” and what I see as a very big excuse making portion of the population.

Here’s an illustration of the importance of environment–in a recent study, researchers followed a selection of children from very young through to adulthood. What they found was that while kids changed from obese to skinny and vice versa in their youth, the kids who were obese in 8th were almost completely–as a whole–obese all the way into adulthood.

In other words their environment kicked in their gene expression differently.

What this means is that what you feed your kid in the first 13 years of life really DOES set them up for easy/hard life. Genetics? Yes, but nothing insurmountable that you couldn’t diet down…but now your default mode is “overweight/storage” instead of lean.

In other words, you can still change if you want to, but your default physiology is to be a fat person until you make the hard change out of your own willpower. The flip side was true with kids who were skinny in 8th grade.

Ultimately, what this study suggests is that almost all human beings have the ability to become “genetically fat” people, through environment. In other words, it’s not that a portion of humans are just destined to be fat, it’s that almost ALL humans have this ability and you can actually change the human default through constant environmental exposure when young. Flipping the gene expression control switches if you will.

It’s also worth noting that this doesn’t mean those fat kid adults can’t change. It’s not a one way street.