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[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]WolBarret wrote:

[quote]John S. wrote:

[quote]davidcox1 wrote:

[quote]John S. wrote:
A movie making the human race and our military out to be bad guys, I think I will skip this piece of propaganda.[/quote]

The movie’s protagonists were all human. Just like in other narratives, there are good guys and bad guys on both sides of the battle. No propaganda here.

The armed folks in the movie were contractors working for a giant corporation. Think Blackwater. As a military member, I didn’t feel like the flick pissed on our armed forces. To the contrary, the big hero is an ex-Marine.[/quote]

Weren’t the humans there to collect fuel that they needed? And I view blackwater the same as I do you in the military, both are doing their job in defending us. Someone who works in blackwater gets just as much respect as someone who works in the military, at least that is how I view it.

The big hero of the movie kills a bunch of humans, I can’t see how we can call that a hero.[/quote]

John, look at it this way. What if you were the avatar guys being invaded by an alien force.

You don’t hate them because they’re military, you hate them because they’re trying to fuck with people and the planet. Everyone is doing their job and the Avatar are morally in the right.[/quote]

Sick as a dog so no church tonight. Bummer.

You really don’t get it. This movie portrays technology as evil. Remember the line about ‘they killed their own mother’ (we apparently killed Earth) or ‘Now they’ll have to return to their own dying world’ at the end?

To squat in the jungle = good. To have something like a water treatment plant = bad.

To ride on an animal = good. To ride in a vehicle = bad.

I would like to stand next to James Cameron while we watch his wife have an operation to save her life. Then, I would flip off the light switch so we’re in the dark. “Well, Jimmy, there’s your world without technology. How do you like it?”

Or: “Well Jimmy, they shut down the lab that makes anaesthesia. Technology is evil, ya know? Ah well, cover your ears…the screams get pretty bad.”
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Actually it presents technology as good.

SPOILER

The whole planet works on internetworking technology and technology allows a crippled person to walk again

END SPOILER

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[quote]Ken St.Mich wrote:
Evil dude can�´t be black or else people will accuse you of racism.[/quote]

LOL. Normally the evil guys in Hollywood movies are British.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]165StateChamp wrote:

I don’t see why you have to look for racism in a movie. [/quote]

I learned from Professor X.

And if someone made a movie of, say, native Americans attacking a bunch of peaceful white farmers and we got to see the natives rape and skin white people alive, or bash white babies against a rock, the people making the movie would have vigilantes after them. “How dare you portray the gentle natives in this way? And the white interlopers had it coming anyway.”

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Apocalypso.
Though they could not be portrayed as targeting peaceful ‘whites’ simply because the whites are the only tribe on earth who suffer from the delusion of superiority and the relentless pursuit of global supremacy at the expense of the land and its native people ( We have science and technology, therefore we are superior and must “share”/dominate/impose “our help” to these ignorant ‘savages’ ). Using technology to serve one’s greed is not smart. And taking from other people without asking is not ok. It is the mentality and the smothering nature of the superior people “We know what is best for you”, “you have disease - we have the pharmaceutical drugs that have long term side effects but don’t worry about that, we saved you.”
The problem of the “white race” is not their perceived superiority but their pride.
Oh, the smugness.

As for black people: They have always been portrayed in subservient roles to white people in the media; music and theater. Then Michael Jackson came along and began to change that. So, yes, black people have a history to fall back on. “White” people should just look at these portraits of themselves as an inferior “race” as : 'Oh my God, that is what it feels like to be portrayed unjustly."

In the end “white” people are no different from “black” people because when you are made to walk in their shoes, the behavioral pattern is the same.
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Here in the states, the movie was called ‘Apacalypto’.

Do you believe in the practice of suttee? I also remember reading the memoirs of a British General who encountered a SE Asian culture where the king made a yearly concotion (to drink) of 6000 human hearts. He had the whole royal family killed (good riddance). But I digress…

If you want to judge cultures comparatively, just ask yourself where you would rather live; or perhaps where the average person is better off. If you don’t say Northern Europe or North America above the Rio Grande, you’re lying to yourself.

You could say Australia and New Zealand too.

Now, what do all those places have in common…hmmmm…?
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I am perfectly happy south of the Rio Grande thanks.

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[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:

[quote]caveman101 wrote:

and why did it have a stupid name?[/quote]

Just a science joke, I think.

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Indeed it is… if you want a great deffinition of unobtanium watch “the core”… When they said the name in the movie I laughed pretty loud… priceless…

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dont know if this is a repost !

Proof that Avatar is sci-fi pochahontas:

http://web.me.com/pascalboogaert/Site/foto3.html