Avatar.....Tonight

My review of the movie.

First lets start with the propaganda this movie has in it.

How much preaching can one movie have in it? I understand Hollywood feels it needs to ram everything down our throats but this was a bit much. We get the line from our hero the government wants the resources it will convince the populous to go in and get it. Obviously a jab at the Iraq war by using an outdated and debunked myth.

Then we get the environmental message, well that was pretty much throughout the entire movie and by the end of it I felt the need to dump a garbage bag in the middle of a lake just to balance out the propaganda.

Also it took a jab at guns in the beginning saying his brother was killed by some guy with a gun, trying to go after the second amendment again I see Hollywood.

Those where the 3 propaganda messages in this movie, if anyone tries to say they where not in there they are retarded.

SPOILER

Now lets get to the story.

The story starts off with this disabled marine filling in for his dead brother in the Avatar project, they get to the spaceship orbiting Pandora and the head scientist immediately reveals she is a cunt that is in desperate need of some loving. She has to be the biggest bitch known to man kind. After treating him like shit the Colonel comes in and asks him to help him out. If he helps him he will get his legs back YAY!

Next we see the guy in his Avatar, the first thing this guy does is break out of the check up room his avatar is in and starts running around. after about 3-4 minutes of running he runs into the scientist cunt but this time she is in her avatar body. they talk a bit then they put their avatars to bed.

The next day they go directly into Pandora, they run into these giant beetle/Rino things and I must admit they looked pretty cool, now after about a minute or so of this this giant panther like thing and it chases our hero. Our hero jumps off a cliff/waterfall and is saved. Now we switch to nighttime and our hero is being chased by these little 6 legged dogs. After a little fight he is saved by this blue alien chick. after this blue alien chick saves him she immediately goes off on him for her having to kill the 6 legged dogs.(Yay another cunt) After a while these strange jellyfish like things come around him and she decides he must go back with her to the camp.

At the camp they question him and at the end of it all they decide he should take there trials and become a member of the clan. The blue alien cunt is charged with training him.

After a few months he gets to have his very own flying monster, instead of capturing him he has to take his weird tentacle thing on his hair and has to attach it to the monsters hair. Basically he has to rape the monster to tame it.(from now on when I describe this process I will use the word rape).

After he gets his flying monster he flys around with the blue chick for a while, they get attacked by this sweet looking Red dragon kind of thing, a little bit later we find out that her grandfather or great grandfather used to fly on one of those and when he did he united all the tribes.(can anyone see where this is going?)

So sometime in between all of this they find out our hero is helping the colonel and they decide to move to these flying mountains.

Now that our guy is accepted by the tribe he gets to choose his mate, and picks the blue alien cunt and they end up having some kinky alien sex.

Well the morning comes around and after some failed attempt to make the movie suspenseful our hero wakes up in his avatar body to find these giant bulldozers about to run over him. He quickly jumps up on top of it and breaks the camera’s so they can’t see anything. This pisses the company off very badly and they go to the sky mountains and punch him in the face. They threaten to close down the avatar program, when the scientist try and protest they bring up a video blog of our hero saying there is nothing these people want from us.

Now we get to some action. The hero some how convinces the guy in charge of the project to give him one more shot, he fails and the Colonel comes in with his awesome airship and blows up the giant tree the aliens where living in.(They are after some metal called unobtianiom get it unobtainable unobtainium good one Hollywood).

They are imprisoned by the colonel and escape thanks to the help of some pilot as they are escaping the human cunt gets shot, they go to the aliens and this uber tree is supposed to send her brain into the avatars so she can live with them forever. It fails and she dies. I was happy.

After all of this the people run to there sacred tree which is right below the flying mountains. Now our hero was knocked out when the tree that they where all living in fell, he wakes up and his flying monster is comes a bit later and they take off flying(can you guess what he is about to do?) After he spots the giant red dragon he jumps on its back and the screen goes blank.

We are taken back to the aliens and they are talking when all of a sudden bam our hero comes in on a dragon. They all start worshiping him and the alien cunt takes him back. He tells them he has a plan and to unite all the people. He then attaches his rape device to the uber tree and tells them that humans are evil and killed their planet.

Now we get to the awesome battle, it is about 40 minute so aliens and people getting killed in an awesome areal and land battle. Right as the aliens are about to loose Pandora unleashes all its animals on the humans and beats them.

The colonel and the hero have a lack luster battle at the end and our hero’s machine is destroyed allowing him to be in his avatar. they transfer his brain from his human body to the avatars and all is well. The humans are expelled and they live happily ever after.

The story gets a 2/5 IMO, but know one watches this movie for the story.

Graphics

6/5, This movie is a must see based on the graphics alone. I had to focus myself to pay attention to the story because of how good the graphics where.

Well thank you for at least attempting to see the movie and be honest about it. However, I still maintain there was a bias going into it for you personally (which is to be expected).

Only comment…how was there ever a stab at the Iraq war dude? Cameron wrote that script YEARS before the Iraq war. In fact, give him props for predicting the future based on the past. You act like that was a stab at America, which it wasn’t. The United States doesn’t have a claim on that title. There has been invasions for resources for hundreds of years. I would hope a patriot like yourself would not claim the U.S. is the only to do this. It was a stab at imperialism and ,perhaps, mankind’s evils on a larger scale. It is completely ignorant to assume he jabbed at the U.S. when the themes are on amuch grander scale than that.

Appreciate you giving it a chance (although you would have been stupid not to). Just wish you saw it for everything it was and how it eprtains to not only the U.S. (it doesn’t aside from it being Americans). Speaking of which, it was Americans on Pandora because we are still a dominanat force. Furthermore, it was made in Hollywood. The chinese going to Pandora would not have had the same appeal. Think it over.

[quote]Houston07 wrote:

Only comment…how was there ever a stab at the Iraq war dude? Cameron wrote that script YEARS before the Iraq war. [/quote]

It was obviously written in around the time the we went into Iraq for oil myth started. It is a pretty obvious jab.

[quote]John S. wrote:

[quote]Houston07 wrote:

Only comment…how was there ever a stab at the Iraq war dude? Cameron wrote that script YEARS before the Iraq war. [/quote]

It was obviously written in around the time the we went into Iraq for oil myth started. It is a pretty obvious jab.[/quote]

Cameron came up with this story when he was 14 years old. I would say that was a tad bit before the Iraq war.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]John S. wrote:

[quote]Houston07 wrote:

Only comment…how was there ever a stab at the Iraq war dude? Cameron wrote that script YEARS before the Iraq war. [/quote]

It was obviously written in around the time the we went into Iraq for oil myth started. It is a pretty obvious jab.[/quote]

Cameron came up with this story when he was 14 years old. I would say that was a tad bit before the Iraq war.[/quote]

Yes he came up with the story, but that one tiny line was obviously added to the script during the whole we went into Iraq for the oil myth. Believe it or not he can add stuff to his original script.

[quote]John S. wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]John S. wrote:

[quote]Houston07 wrote:

Only comment…how was there ever a stab at the Iraq war dude? Cameron wrote that script YEARS before the Iraq war. [/quote]

It was obviously written in around the time the we went into Iraq for oil myth started. It is a pretty obvious jab.[/quote]

Cameron came up with this story when he was 14 years old. I would say that was a tad bit before the Iraq war.[/quote]

Yes he came up with the story, but that one tiny line was obviously added to the script during the whole we went into Iraq for the oil myth. Believe it or not he can add stuff to his original script.
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Note of precaution:
I hear you may need psychological counseling if you saw the 3D version…that is unless you remembered the foil hat.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]John S. wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]John S. wrote:

[quote]Houston07 wrote:

Only comment…how was there ever a stab at the Iraq war dude? Cameron wrote that script YEARS before the Iraq war. [/quote]

It was obviously written in around the time the we went into Iraq for oil myth started. It is a pretty obvious jab.[/quote]

Cameron came up with this story when he was 14 years old. I would say that was a tad bit before the Iraq war.[/quote]

Yes he came up with the story, but that one tiny line was obviously added to the script during the whole we went into Iraq for the oil myth. Believe it or not he can add stuff to his original script.
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Note of precaution:
I hear you may need psychological counseling if you saw the 3D version…that is unless you remembered the foil hat.[/quote]

If I saw the 3D version I would have double wrapped my tin foil hat.

[quote]FutureGL wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]FutureGL wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
How is this film racist against white folks if the main character (who is white) is portrayed favorably and is the one who saves and leads the entire race of indigenous people native to the planet? [/quote]

Did you read the reasons posted? No.

Only white people who turn against technology/the West/science/corporations are good. Only those who want to crush the other white devils are good.

Why wasn’t the evil colonel a huge black dude like Prof X?

OT: Why is a world dying because it embraces technology? To squat in the jungle worshipping the God-tree is good, but building a water treatment plant or a hospital is bad?

I’m glad the blue creatures never get sick, food is there just for the plucking, on and on. Rename the planet Fanastyland.
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stop ignoring my posts.[/quote]

Say something intelligent (and intelligible).
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K. Position shift: you’re a jerk.
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You failed.

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

My life preferences do not put me on a higher moral ground than my fellow. I do believe I said we are all broken as a “race”, the human race. And when I say I am not impressed with humanity is simply saying this system we live in fails to stimulate me, fails to excite me. I am not aroused.

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You just said you don’t judge humanity, then you did. You just said your choices don’t put you on a higher moral ground than your fellow? So you are not more moral than a whore, a murderer, or a thief?

The meaning of your life is not something you get from others. That’s for social metaphysicians, like Cameron and the psychotic Left.

â??The creators were not selfless. It is the whole secret of their powerâ??that it was self-sufficient, self-motivated, self-generated. A first cause, a fount of energy, a life force, a Prime Mover. The creator served nothing and no one. He lived for himself.
â??And only by living for himself was he able to achieve the things which are the glory of mankind. Such is the nature of achievement.
— Ayn Rand (the Fountainhead)

[quote]John S. wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]John S. wrote:

[quote]Houston07 wrote:

Only comment…how was there ever a stab at the Iraq war dude? Cameron wrote that script YEARS before the Iraq war. [/quote]

It was obviously written in around the time the we went into Iraq for oil myth started. It is a pretty obvious jab.[/quote]

Cameron came up with this story when he was 14 years old. I would say that was a tad bit before the Iraq war.[/quote]

Yes he came up with the story, but that one tiny line was obviously added to the script during the whole we went into Iraq for the oil myth. Believe it or not he can add stuff to his original script.
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I think your point would be more valid if you broadened it. Cameron was making a jab at violence in the name of energy resources where-ever and when-ever. He’d probably be pleased you see it as a comment on Iraq.

He obviously directed the movie in the context of current events, so you are likely correct that he was influenced by them regardless of when he hatched the plot, but I don’t see it as a jab at that one war in particular vice a jab at that motive for war/violence. That’s just me.

[quote]kodiak82 wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Yet your loopy ass still was in a theater for three hours and watched it. Not like you were forced by left-wing quacks to watch it…lol.

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Actually, my wife and daughter were sitting in the lobby after their movie (Princess Frog Gets Laid or something :wink: so I went out and chatted with them with about 20 minutes to go in the Avatar. That’s how thrilling this movie was. Anyway, my sons were watching Avatar so we couldn’t leave; let 'em watch the end. I did go back for what must have been the last 5 minutes.

John Kerry’s testimony before Congress comes to the big screen as a 3D cartoon…yippee!
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I think its funny how uncomfortable some Republicans get when genocide as a means to obtain someone else’s natutral resources is portraited in a negative light.
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If they won’t sell,trade or move. What other option is there?[/quote]

Maybe letting them keep the resources and go looking somewhere else?

The movie was biased and based on a traitor. Every Marine was stereotyped in the worst way possible and at a time of war what were they thinking? References to the metal being valuable and why we are there is like saying Iraq for oil regardless of when it was written obviously books get changed when they are turned into movies. Its amazing how all in one it bashed capitalism and the military while they are using the movie to get rich. Amazing right? Only in America because you do not see other countries bashing thier own people do you?

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

My life preferences do not put me on a higher moral ground than my fellow. I do believe I said we are all broken as a “race”, the human race. And when I say I am not impressed with humanity is simply saying this system we live in fails to stimulate me, fails to excite me. I am not aroused.

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You just said you don’t judge humanity, then you did. You just said your choices don’t put you on a higher moral ground than your fellow? So you are not more moral than a whore, a murderer, or a thief?[/quote] You yourself are saying that.
And you base that on your vision of reality, just as you fail to discern what the greater picture is in this movie and focus exclusively and judge it according to your biases. Please reflect on the difference between discernment and judgement, one of those doesn’t belong to you.
Please note that different life choices do not elevate one person above another. The quality of my life is higher, yes for me, as a result of my choices but that in no way makes me superior to the whore. I shall die, and can die any given moment just as her, the murderer and the thief. [quote]

The meaning of your life is not something you get from others.
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Who told you my life had no meaning?

My life is sacred.

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

My life preferences do not put me on a higher moral ground than my fellow. I do believe I said we are all broken as a “race”, the human race. And when I say I am not impressed with humanity is simply saying this system we live in fails to stimulate me, fails to excite me. I am not aroused.

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You just said you don’t judge humanity, then you did. You just said your choices don’t put you on a higher moral ground than your fellow? So you are not more moral than a whore, a murderer, or a thief?[/quote] You yourself are saying that.
And you base that on your vision of reality, just as you fail to discern what the greater picture is in this movie and focus exclusively and judge it according to your biases. Please reflect on the difference between discernment and judgement, one of those doesn’t belong to you.
Please note that different life choices do not elevate one person above another. The quality of my life is higher, yes for me, as a result of my choices but that in no way makes me superior to the whore. I shall die, and can die any given moment just as her, the murderer and the thief. [quote]

The meaning of your life is not something you get from others.
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Who told you my life had no meaning?

My life is sacred.
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What did you use to decide that your life is sacred? Your mind.

Why is your life sacred? Because the individual mind is sacred.

Does technology make your life better? Yes. Clean water, clean food, and so on are good.

Therefore, based upon these 3 premises, technology preserves/enhances the life of the individual.

You should be denouncing this movie more vociferously than I.

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

My life preferences do not put me on a higher moral ground than my fellow. I do believe I said we are all broken as a “race”, the human race. And when I say I am not impressed with humanity is simply saying this system we live in fails to stimulate me, fails to excite me. I am not aroused.

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You just said you don’t judge humanity, then you did. You just said your choices don’t put you on a higher moral ground than your fellow? So you are not more moral than a whore, a murderer, or a thief?[/quote] You yourself are saying that.
And you base that on your vision of reality, just as you fail to discern what the greater picture is in this movie and focus exclusively and judge it according to your biases. Please reflect on the difference between discernment and judgement, one of those doesn’t belong to you.
Please note that different life choices do not elevate one person above another. The quality of my life is higher, yes for me, as a result of my choices but that in no way makes me superior to the whore. I shall die, and can die any given moment just as her, the murderer and the thief. [quote]

The meaning of your life is not something you get from others.
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Who told you my life had no meaning?

My life is sacred.
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No offense, Alpha, but you are at fault for putting someone like that on such a pedestal…enough to actually call them “TEACHER”??? I’ve had your “teacher” on ignore for over a year at least, maybe more. Perhaps…you know, now that you have graduated, you can move away from remedial classes. Give the advanced class a try. We knew he was just a troll several years ago.

Why did it take the rest of you so damn long to figure it out?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

No offense, Alpha, but you are at fault for putting someone like that on such a pedestal…enough to actually call them “TEACHER”??? I’ve had your “teacher” on ignore for over a year at least, maybe more. Perhaps…you know, now that you have graduated, you can move away from remedial classes. Give the advanced class a try. We knew he was just a troll several years ago.
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No offence taken at all. When I stopped posting here years ago I also stopped visiting the site. On returning there was quite a lot to soak in ( I was glad to see you were still around ).
Obviously, a lot of water has gone under the bridge of T-Nation. In 2005 I saw HH as an antagonist and as such he “thought” me how not to overreact to provocation and how to keep my composure when opposed, as he was for his expressions back then. But on returning I completely fail to see the purpose of his posting.
I am not gullible but I am still innocent enough to believe in, at least some reminiscence of, in the innocence of others.
If proven wrong then that is it, I am no longer impressed and I am no longer interested as I state in above posts.

Sometimes I myself make comments here which are “questionable”, to get a strong reaction from others, i.e. an apparent negative provocation in order to open their minds to take a different tangent and achieve a positive outcome ( To change a social prejudice, for instance ).
I thought maybe back then he was on to something and upon returning all I find is the vacuum he created.

We can still “learn” from him, not to get sucked in, I guess.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

What did you use to decide that your life is sacred? Your mind.[/quote]
That is not a decision. The sanctity of life is an unconditional state.[quote]

Why is your life sacred? [/quote] Because I was born.[quote]

Does technology make your life better? [/quote] Technology can make my life better and technology can make my life worse. Some people live longer due to technology some people die younger due to technology.[quote]

Therefore, based upon these 3 premises, technology preserves/enhances the life of the individual.[/quote] Technology does not make life sacred. [quote]

You should be denouncing this movie more vociferously than I.
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I shall be celebrating my life and the life of others with or without technology.

Awe for the sacredness of life is what preserves and enhances our individual and collective experience as a species.

[quote]Alpha F wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

No offense, Alpha, but you are at fault for putting someone like that on such a pedestal…enough to actually call them “TEACHER”??? I’ve had your “teacher” on ignore for over a year at least, maybe more. Perhaps…you know, now that you have graduated, you can move away from remedial classes. Give the advanced class a try. We knew he was just a troll several years ago.
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No offence taken at all. When I stopped posting here years ago I also stopped visiting the site. On returning there was quite a lot to soak in ( I was glad to see you were still around ).
Obviously, a lot of water has gone under the bridge of T-Nation. In 2005 I saw HH as an antagonist and as such he “thought” me how not to overreact to provocation and how to keep my composure when opposed, as he was for his expressions back then. But on returning I completely fail to see the purpose of his posting.
I am not gullible but I am still innocent enough to believe in, at least some reminiscence of, in the innocence of others.
If proven wrong then that is it, I am no longer impressed and I am no longer interested as I state in above posts.

Sometimes I myself make comments here which are “questionable”, to get a strong reaction from others, i.e. an apparent negative provocation in order to open their minds to take a different tangent and achieve a positive outcome ( To change a social prejudice, for instance ).
I thought maybe back then he was on to something and upon returning all I find is the vacuum he created.

We can still “learn” from him, not to get sucked in, I guess.
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Yeah I didn’t do so hot on that front

Guys a douche, no explanation needed.

[quote]Devildog07843 wrote: Amazing right? Only in America because you do not see other countries bashing thier own people do you?
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Don’t watch much international news do you?