Nazis would probably tell you that their belief that non-Aryans need to be exterminated has enhanced their life. Do they have the right to force this belief on you?
[quote]mertdawg wrote:
No not pleasure. I’m asking how taking A LOT OF MONEY for it is any different than for signing a piece of paper? (assuming no physical harm)
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Uhh… ya lost me, mert. Are you trying to compare butt-sex with selling your soul, or is it butt-sex and signing a piece of paper (in the possibility you get a lot of money from either)? Either way, I was saying that there is a big difference in getting free money (selling your soul) and getting rammed in the ass for money. Even if there’s a lot of lube involved. You see, when I sign a piece of paper in blood, I don’t have to bend over to get a dick in the keister. Free money. No butt-sex. Me taking it in the rear would be like you going to a satanic cult ritual, and saying “hail satan” over and over. Sure, you could physically do it, but you just don’t want to… for many reasons.
And just as aside, when I logged on tonight and saw that I had a new PM waiting for me, I laughed my ass off because I thought it might be you trying to hook up with some of my fruitcake friends. 
I have to bring back a classic from a former poster.
ENOUGH. END THREAD.
[quote]lothario1132 wrote:
Okay, I’ve got a question for the rest of my heathen heretic asshole pals out there in cyberspace…
Let’s say that some rich wacko came up to you and said something to the effect of, “Here’s a butt-load of money. Now sign this paper in your blood to give me your immortal soul.”
Would you do it? I sure as hell would. Why not?[/quote]
Why would Satan want to pay good money for YOUR soul? I think you can safely take the money.
[quote]Swift wrote:
Nazis would probably tell you that their belief that non-Aryans need to be exterminated has enhanced their life. Do they have the right to force this belief on you?
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just like i have the right to not agree with them.
[quote]lothario1132 wrote:
Swift wrote:
Is that so? If some guy in the middle ages comes up with the idea that there exists in space an astronomical phenomenon that sucks in light, does it not exist simply because he can’t provide proof. If later a scientist comes along and presents proof that such phenomenon do exist, does this act of discovery bring black holes into existence?
What do you define as proof?
But that’s just the thing here, swift. A soul (let’s pretend that there is some immortal piece of yourself stuck in there somewhere) would be something supernatural (unlike a black hole), and not provable by any natural means. When you bring something like this to folks like me who don’t believe in the supernatural, then we tend to say bullshit. What this question really is determining is whether or not you are superstitious. So far, I’ve seen one good “no” response to this question from ramses that didn’t bring superstition into play.[/quote]
The point I made was designed to refute the point “If it hasn’t been proven, it doesn’t exist.”
What do you define as natural means?
Swift: Natural means are the ones which involve non-metaphysical or non-supernatural methods.
Natural: Hey look at the moon through my telescope! Pretty cool, huh?
Supernatural: Now everyone quiet while Mistress Umbaba looks into her crystal ball to see the future…
You get the picture. And you’re right about the fact that just because something hasn’t been proven doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. When I started that “I don’t have soul because I’m not superstitious” shit like 50 posts ago, I meant it. Pretending to be somehow – even a tiny bit – immortal just strikes me as wishful thinking. And like I said, there’s nothing wrong with that. I just see it for what it is… nothing more.
[quote]lothario1132 wrote:
mertdawg wrote:
No not pleasure. I’m asking how taking A LOT OF MONEY for it is any different than for signing a piece of paper? (assuming no physical harm)
Uhh… ya lost me, mert. Are you trying to compare butt-sex with selling your soul, or is it butt-sex and signing a piece of paper (in the possibility you get a lot of money from either)? Either way, I was saying that there is a big difference in getting free money (selling your soul) and getting rammed in the ass for money. Even if there’s a lot of lube involved. You see, when I sign a piece of paper in blood, I don’t have to bend over to get a dick in the keister. Free money. No butt-sex. Me taking it in the rear would be like you going to a satanic cult ritual, and saying “hail satan” over and over. Sure, you could physically do it, but you just don’t want to… for many reasons.
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I think the question he is fumblingly attempting to ask is:
If you were to do something that is “wrong”, something you do not agree with, because someone paid you, is that equivalent to selling your soul?
i’m not entering this discussion, just trying to help the guy out…
[quote]RepubCarrier wrote:
lothario1132 wrote:
mertdawg wrote:
No not pleasure. I’m asking how taking A LOT OF MONEY for it is any different than for signing a piece of paper? (assuming no physical harm)
Uhh… ya lost me, mert. Are you trying to compare butt-sex with selling your soul, or is it butt-sex and signing a piece of paper (in the possibility you get a lot of money from either)? Either way, I was saying that there is a big difference in getting free money (selling your soul) and getting rammed in the ass for money. Even if there’s a lot of lube involved. You see, when I sign a piece of paper in blood, I don’t have to bend over to get a dick in the keister. Free money. No butt-sex. Me taking it in the rear would be like you going to a satanic cult ritual, and saying “hail satan” over and over. Sure, you could physically do it, but you just don’t want to… for many reasons.
I think the question he is fumblingly attempting to ask is:
If you were to do something that is “wrong”, something you do not agree with, because someone paid you, is that equivalent to selling your soul?
i’m not entering this discussion, just trying to help the guy out…[/quote]
WRONG. I was trying to get him to admit that some things are wrong regardless of the pragmatic outcome. If he believes that, he is some kind of theist whether he says so or not. I wanted to choose something that he couldn’t PRETEND to accept in front of an audience.