Atheism-o-Phobia Part 3

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:
It’s a defense mechanism for some believers to interpret any disagreement as hatred and persecution. It gives them a feeling of specialness. After all, if people hate us so badly, maybe that’s because they’re jealous or in denial of what we have. Right?

The possibility of honest disagreement doesn’t fit into their world view, even when they disagree with other believers. If people disagree, surely it is because they have a hidden agenda and don’t really care about the truth!
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I have no problem with honest disagreement. It’s the name calling, things like referring to my faith as a “fairy tale” calling God a “sky wizard”. This is not just immature, but incredibly insensitive to those of us who believe in God. I brought this up to Cap in one of our arguments and Cap was mature enough to agree. Since that time I have not seen him post anything of the kind. And my respect for him has risen because of that. And we’ve all been insensitive regarding another;s belief’s. Disagreement is fine. How we disagree with each other is usually the problem, and it’s not just this thread.
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In my defense and his, the christian interpretation of god is exactly that of a person with supernatural powers who resides in a place far above our heads.
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There is no defense for offending someone of faith. And I thought this was behind us. You’ve just told me why you used to say it, but you cannot justify it this way. Let me give you a comparison. Forlife is gay and if I called him any number of derogatory names because of it I would be acting insensitive to him (the world grasps this one). And while he and I have probably hundreds of posts back and forth I have never once used any of these derogatory names to define him. Of course we have called each other no good liars before—but thats’ another matter. :slight_smile:
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There’s no defense for offending someone of faith…but it’s ok to repeatedly insult a man’s integrity and accuse him of leaving his wife and children because he is gay. Classic double standard antics from the clown, the entertainment is priceless. [/quote]

You had a choice to make and you chose to look for what you thought were your own best interests. Yes, I questioned that, and I’m sure someday you will know the pain that you wreaked on your young family.

And as far as the name calling goes you take second place to no one.
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Really…

You are just such an ignorant cock.

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[quote]swoleupinya wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:
It’s a defense mechanism for some believers to interpret any disagreement as hatred and persecution. It gives them a feeling of specialness. After all, if people hate us so badly, maybe that’s because they’re jealous or in denial of what we have. Right?

The possibility of honest disagreement doesn’t fit into their world view, even when they disagree with other believers. If people disagree, surely it is because they have a hidden agenda and don’t really care about the truth!
[/quote]

I have no problem with honest disagreement. It’s the name calling, things like referring to my faith as a “fairy tale” calling God a “sky wizard”. This is not just immature, but incredibly insensitive to those of us who believe in God. I brought this up to Cap in one of our arguments and Cap was mature enough to agree. Since that time I have not seen him post anything of the kind. And my respect for him has risen because of that. And we’ve all been insensitive regarding another;s belief’s. Disagreement is fine. How we disagree with each other is usually the problem, and it’s not just this thread.
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In my defense and his, the christian interpretation of god is exactly that of a person with supernatural powers who resides in a place far above our heads.
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There is no defense for offending someone of faith. And I thought this was behind us. You’ve just told me why you used to say it, but you cannot justify it this way. Let me give you a comparison. Forlife is gay and if I called him any number of derogatory names because of it I would be acting insensitive to him (the world grasps this one). And while he and I have probably hundreds of posts back and forth I have never once used any of these derogatory names to define him. Of course we have called each other no good liars before—but thats’ another matter. :slight_smile:
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There’s no defense for offending someone of faith…but it’s ok to repeatedly insult a man’s integrity and accuse him of leaving his wife and children because he is gay. Classic double standard antics from the clown, the entertainment is priceless. [/quote]

You had a choice to make and you chose to look for what you thought were your own best interests. Yes, I questioned that, and I’m sure someday you will know the pain that you wreaked on your young family.

And as far as the name calling goes you take second place to no one.
[/quote]

Really…

You are just such an ignorant cock.
[/quote]

Here’s my opinion on the matter. Leaving the kids and the family was bad. But staying with the family and going completely against his nature was bad too. I think Forlife had to make a judgment call. And I’m not going to judge him for what he felt he had to do. I’m sure we’ve all been in situations where we were stuck in-between a rock and a hard spot.

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[quote]swoleupinya wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:
It’s a defense mechanism for some believers to interpret any disagreement as hatred and persecution. It gives them a feeling of specialness. After all, if people hate us so badly, maybe that’s because they’re jealous or in denial of what we have. Right?

The possibility of honest disagreement doesn’t fit into their world view, even when they disagree with other believers. If people disagree, surely it is because they have a hidden agenda and don’t really care about the truth!
[/quote]

I have no problem with honest disagreement. It’s the name calling, things like referring to my faith as a “fairy tale” calling God a “sky wizard”. This is not just immature, but incredibly insensitive to those of us who believe in God. I brought this up to Cap in one of our arguments and Cap was mature enough to agree. Since that time I have not seen him post anything of the kind. And my respect for him has risen because of that. And we’ve all been insensitive regarding another;s belief’s. Disagreement is fine. How we disagree with each other is usually the problem, and it’s not just this thread.
[/quote]

In my defense and his, the christian interpretation of god is exactly that of a person with supernatural powers who resides in a place far above our heads.
[/quote]

There is no defense for offending someone of faith. And I thought this was behind us. You’ve just told me why you used to say it, but you cannot justify it this way. Let me give you a comparison. Forlife is gay and if I called him any number of derogatory names because of it I would be acting insensitive to him (the world grasps this one). And while he and I have probably hundreds of posts back and forth I have never once used any of these derogatory names to define him. Of course we have called each other no good liars before—but thats’ another matter. :slight_smile:
[/quote]

There’s no defense for offending someone of faith…but it’s ok to repeatedly insult a man’s integrity and accuse him of leaving his wife and children because he is gay. Classic double standard antics from the clown, the entertainment is priceless. [/quote]

You had a choice to make and you chose to look for what you thought were your own best interests. Yes, I questioned that, and I’m sure someday you will know the pain that you wreaked on your young family.

And as far as the name calling goes you take second place to no one.
[/quote]

Really…

You are just such an ignorant cock.
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Calm down now, I think that two year Community College degree is going to your head.

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[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]swoleupinya wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:
It’s a defense mechanism for some believers to interpret any disagreement as hatred and persecution. It gives them a feeling of specialness. After all, if people hate us so badly, maybe that’s because they’re jealous or in denial of what we have. Right?

The possibility of honest disagreement doesn’t fit into their world view, even when they disagree with other believers. If people disagree, surely it is because they have a hidden agenda and don’t really care about the truth!
[/quote]

I have no problem with honest disagreement. It’s the name calling, things like referring to my faith as a “fairy tale” calling God a “sky wizard”. This is not just immature, but incredibly insensitive to those of us who believe in God. I brought this up to Cap in one of our arguments and Cap was mature enough to agree. Since that time I have not seen him post anything of the kind. And my respect for him has risen because of that. And we’ve all been insensitive regarding another;s belief’s. Disagreement is fine. How we disagree with each other is usually the problem, and it’s not just this thread.
[/quote]

In my defense and his, the christian interpretation of god is exactly that of a person with supernatural powers who resides in a place far above our heads.
[/quote]

There is no defense for offending someone of faith. And I thought this was behind us. You’ve just told me why you used to say it, but you cannot justify it this way. Let me give you a comparison. Forlife is gay and if I called him any number of derogatory names because of it I would be acting insensitive to him (the world grasps this one). And while he and I have probably hundreds of posts back and forth I have never once used any of these derogatory names to define him. Of course we have called each other no good liars before—but thats’ another matter. :slight_smile:
[/quote]

There’s no defense for offending someone of faith…but it’s ok to repeatedly insult a man’s integrity and accuse him of leaving his wife and children because he is gay. Classic double standard antics from the clown, the entertainment is priceless. [/quote]

You had a choice to make and you chose to look for what you thought were your own best interests. Yes, I questioned that, and I’m sure someday you will know the pain that you wreaked on your young family.

And as far as the name calling goes you take second place to no one.
[/quote]

Really…

You are just such an ignorant cock.
[/quote]

Here’s my opinion on the matter. Leaving the kids and the family was bad. But staying with the family and going completely against his nature was bad too. I think Forlife had to make a judgment call. And I’m not going to judge him for what he felt he had to do. I’m sure we’ve all been in situations where we were stuck in-between a rock and a hard spot.[/quote]

I think once you are married, and on top of that have two young children there should be a strong commitment to the family that you created. That commitment should take precedent over your desire to have sex with another woman or man. I am against divorce except for very specific reasons. One reason the divorce rate is as high as it is because everyone feels their needs are more important than anyone else’s. “Boo hoo poor me I must be happy.” Human beings are indeed selfish at heart.

And does the world help when a couple is hurting? No, a secular marriage councilor many times will not provide the sort of advice that keeps couples together.

Okay that’s my bit on marriage come on atheists-----I’m waiting :slight_smile: (this should be fun)

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
Wow, two posts directed at me from his royal heathen. Why all the attention pookie? Have you not hit your quota of Christian bashing this quarter? And all this for a God that doesn’t even exist? Hmm, I think someone has a problem. A tad insecure about your own brand of religion? You are no less a fundamentalist than the typical street corner preacher babbling on as people pass by and look the other way. At least at the end of the day the street corner preacher while obnoxious is at least correct. You get to be both obnoxious and wrong. [/quote]

I’m always amused when the best put down credophiles can come up with is to claim that atheists are just like them. Holy shit, we’re as bad as believers! Now that’s a serious insult.

I give not a fuck about your non-existent god. I do, however, believe in the existence of believers in said non-entity. What they lack in common sense, they make up in numbers. If they kept their religion at home, in the family and didn’t try to enact laws based on it; if they didn’t interfere with marriages, education, etc. they could pray themselves silly and no one would care. Unfortunately, it seems to be a tenet of the faith that they must meddle in things that do not concern them at all.

Well, here’s a “Slayer goes to church” video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHb4gs1hwck&feature=youtube_gdata

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]swoleupinya wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:
It’s a defense mechanism for some believers to interpret any disagreement as hatred and persecution. It gives them a feeling of specialness. After all, if people hate us so badly, maybe that’s because they’re jealous or in denial of what we have. Right?

The possibility of honest disagreement doesn’t fit into their world view, even when they disagree with other believers. If people disagree, surely it is because they have a hidden agenda and don’t really care about the truth!
[/quote]

I have no problem with honest disagreement. It’s the name calling, things like referring to my faith as a “fairy tale” calling God a “sky wizard”. This is not just immature, but incredibly insensitive to those of us who believe in God. I brought this up to Cap in one of our arguments and Cap was mature enough to agree. Since that time I have not seen him post anything of the kind. And my respect for him has risen because of that. And we’ve all been insensitive regarding another;s belief’s. Disagreement is fine. How we disagree with each other is usually the problem, and it’s not just this thread.
[/quote]

In my defense and his, the christian interpretation of god is exactly that of a person with supernatural powers who resides in a place far above our heads.
[/quote]

There is no defense for offending someone of faith. And I thought this was behind us. You’ve just told me why you used to say it, but you cannot justify it this way. Let me give you a comparison. Forlife is gay and if I called him any number of derogatory names because of it I would be acting insensitive to him (the world grasps this one). And while he and I have probably hundreds of posts back and forth I have never once used any of these derogatory names to define him. Of course we have called each other no good liars before—but thats’ another matter. :slight_smile:
[/quote]

There’s no defense for offending someone of faith…but it’s ok to repeatedly insult a man’s integrity and accuse him of leaving his wife and children because he is gay. Classic double standard antics from the clown, the entertainment is priceless. [/quote]

You had a choice to make and you chose to look for what you thought were your own best interests. Yes, I questioned that, and I’m sure someday you will know the pain that you wreaked on your young family.

And as far as the name calling goes you take second place to no one.
[/quote]

Really…

You are just such an ignorant cock.
[/quote]

Here’s my opinion on the matter. Leaving the kids and the family was bad. But staying with the family and going completely against his nature was bad too. I think Forlife had to make a judgment call. And I’m not going to judge him for what he felt he had to do. I’m sure we’ve all been in situations where we were stuck in-between a rock and a hard spot.[/quote]

I think once you are married, and on top of that have two young children there should be a strong commitment to the family that you created. That commitment should take precedent over your desire to have sex with another woman or man. I am against divorce except for very specific reasons. One reason the divorce rate is as high as it is because everyone feels their needs are more important than anyone else’s. “Boo hoo poor me I must be happy.” Human beings are indeed selfish at heart.

And does the world help when a couple is hurting? No, a secular marriage councilor many times will not provide the sort of advice that keeps couples together.

Okay that’s my bit on marriage come on atheists-----I’m waiting :slight_smile: (this should be fun)[/quote]

I think it is possible to divorce to make it (E: life) easier for the kids, provided you can share the responsibility. I have seen it and I can’t deny it, even though I share your view on raising kids.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
I have no problem with honest disagreement. It’s the name calling, things like referring to my faith as a “fairy tale” calling God a “sky wizard”. This is not just immature, but incredibly insensitive to those of us who believe in God. I brought this up to Cap in one of our arguments and Cap was mature enough to agree. Since that time I have not seen him post anything of the kind. And my respect for him has risen because of that. And we’ve all been insensitive regarding another;s belief’s. Disagreement is fine. How we disagree with each other is usually the problem, and it’s not just this thread. [/quote]

You believe in dumb things. Why should people who realize how dumb your beliefs are show any respect? Would you respect a pedophile who explains to you his belief in sex with children? How about a neo-nazi who preaches racial purity? I can use a bunch of bible verses to justify slavery and child abuse… You believe things that were invented by primitive men and that are used by modern ignorant bigots to justify their hate of women, gays, foreigners, education, etc.

If you want your religion to be respected, pick one that promotes ideas worthy of respect.

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[quote]pookie wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
I have no problem with honest disagreement. It’s the name calling, things like referring to my faith as a “fairy tale” calling God a “sky wizard”. This is not just immature, but incredibly insensitive to those of us who believe in God. I brought this up to Cap in one of our arguments and Cap was mature enough to agree. Since that time I have not seen him post anything of the kind. And my respect for him has risen because of that. And we’ve all been insensitive regarding another;s belief’s. Disagreement is fine. How we disagree with each other is usually the problem, and it’s not just this thread. [/quote]

You believe in dumb things. Why should people who realize how dumb your beliefs are show any respect? Would you respect a pedophile who explains to you his belief in sex with children? How about a neo-nazi who preaches racial purity? I can use a bunch of bible verses to justify slavery and child abuse… You believe things that were invented by primitive men and that are used by modern ignorant bigots to justify their hate of women, gays, foreigners, education, etc.

If you want your religion to be respected, pick one that promotes ideas worthy of respect.[/quote]

There’s been a lot of crap in the name of religion done yes. There’s also been people who misused atheistic ideologies to start crap. I just have difficulty in discounting the massive charities and missionaries that Christianity has established. As atheists, I think that’s a bandwagon we should hop on. I think the biggest problem we would have is organization. Discuss please.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
I think once you are married, and on top of that have two young children there should be a strong commitment to the family that you created. That commitment should take precedent over your desire to have sex with another woman or man. I am against divorce except for very specific reasons. One reason the divorce rate is as high as it is because everyone feels their needs are more important than anyone else’s. “Boo hoo poor me I must be happy.” Human beings are indeed selfish at heart.

And does the world help when a couple is hurting? No, a secular marriage councilor many times will not provide the sort of advice that keeps couples together.[/quote]

And what sort of advice would?

Yes, it should be a lot of fun. Not for you, though.

Let’s look at some of the most atheistic societies in the world today… let’s see. Northern European/Scandinavian countries are extremely secular, and have populations where a large proportion (varying from 40% to 80% depending on how the polls are worded) of people consider themselves agnostics/atheists. Many are still members of a church, but mostly out of tradition, and attendance is very low.

Now, let’s look at divorce rates in those countries… hmmm. Among the lowest in the world. How about abortions? Low too. Much lower than in god-lovin’ god-fearin US of A. Crime rate? Lower. Teen pregnancies? Lower. Portion of population in prison? Much lower. Discrepancy between rich and poor? Way less than the US. Social programs? Generous and freely accessible to all. Universal health care. Six weeks or more paid vacations (so that you can actually spend time with your family instead of looking at their picture on your office desk). A paid sabbatical year once in your career. Institutionalized discrimination against gays? None. Education levels? High.

In fact, on almost every measurable aspect that you can apply to measure quality of life, highly secular nations outperform highly religious nations. Ok, tax rates are sky-high, but Christians, it is well known, love to share wealth with the needy, so that is not even a problem.

Having fun yet?

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[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
There’s been a lot of crap in the name of religion done yes. There’s also been people who misused atheistic ideologies to start crap. I just have difficulty in discounting the massive charities and missionaries that Christianity has established. As atheists, I think that’s a bandwagon we should hop on. I think the biggest problem we would have is organization. Discuss please.[/quote]

There’s no such thing as “atheistic ideology”. Atheism implies lack of belief in a deity, nothing more. Most atheists also reject the supernatural, but I’ve seen atheists who believe in ghosts, “spirituality” (whatever that means) and various other woo-woo and quackery. You’d be hard pressed to find two atheists who agree on most things, much less an ideology.

Those christian charities you so admire often have a lot of strings attached to their good works. For example, the Salvation Army, because of their Christian beliefs, refuse to distribute Twilight and Harry Potter merchandise that’s been given so that poor kids can have Christmas presents: http://www.edmontonsun.com/news/canada/2010/12/08/16478111.html Many Christian charities will not fund Family Planning centers if abortions are provided. Some even withhold funds if birth control other than abstinence is provided. Search for “Haiti” and “Bibles” for example of “charities” who think Haitians who have no homes and are at risk of cholera are more in need of books than food, shelter and clean water.

There’s nothing a christian charity can do that a secular one cannot. I personally contribute to Doctors without Borders (http://www.msf.org/msf/donations/donations_home.cfm) who specialize in providing emergency medical care when catastrophes strike, and preventive medical care (vaccines, penicillin, condoms) in some of the poorest countries on Earth. Locally, we have in Quebec “Le club des petits déjeuners” (The Breakfast Club would be a good translation) (http://www.clubdejeuners.org/index.php?id=300) who provide breakfasts in school for kids in poor neighborhoods who often don’t get to eat at home before leaving for school. I like these because they have no hidden agenda, no “well, why don’t you read this pamphlet and come to our church next week” crap accompanying the help they provide.

Edit: The forum is messing with my diacritics…

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My point was to call out Zeb’s hypocrisy in complaining about insults against Christians, while dishing out some of the most hateful, personal vitriol I’ve seen in 5 years on these boards. Most of the Christians I talk with seem like pretty cool people, and don’t lower themselves to that level.

I’ll say this one last time, for the record.

My wife and I made a mutual decision to divorce. She felt as strongly that it was the right decision as I did. We spent a full year talking, doing research on mixed orientation marriages, and attending counseling before making our decision. I never once cheated on her. I’ve stayed very close to my kids, and am still on good terms with my ex-wife. This week, she, I, and my partner sat together at the holiday concerts for both of my kids. We continue to feel that we made the right decision.

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[quote]forlife wrote:
My point was to call out Zeb’s hypocrisy in complaining about insults against Christians, while dishing out some of the most hateful, personal vitriol I’ve seen in 5 years on these boards. Most of the Christians I talk with seem like pretty cool people, and don’t lower themselves to that level.

I’ll say this one last time, for the record.

My wife and I made a mutual decision to divorce. She felt as strongly that it was the right decision as I did. We spent a full year talking, doing research on mixed orientation marriages, and attending counseling before making our decision. I never once cheated on her. I’ve stayed very close to my kids, and am still on good terms with my ex-wife. This week, she, I, and my partner sat together at the holiday concerts for both of my kids. We continue to feel that we made the right decision. [/quote]

Good for you.

I had a close friend in NYC who went through the same thing. His two daughters are some of the most well-adjusted, young adults I’ve ever met.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]swoleupinya wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]forlife wrote:
It’s a defense mechanism for some believers to interpret any disagreement as hatred and persecution. It gives them a feeling of specialness. After all, if people hate us so badly, maybe that’s because they’re jealous or in denial of what we have. Right?

The possibility of honest disagreement doesn’t fit into their world view, even when they disagree with other believers. If people disagree, surely it is because they have a hidden agenda and don’t really care about the truth!
[/quote]

I have no problem with honest disagreement. It’s the name calling, things like referring to my faith as a “fairy tale” calling God a “sky wizard”. This is not just immature, but incredibly insensitive to those of us who believe in God. I brought this up to Cap in one of our arguments and Cap was mature enough to agree. Since that time I have not seen him post anything of the kind. And my respect for him has risen because of that. And we’ve all been insensitive regarding another;s belief’s. Disagreement is fine. How we disagree with each other is usually the problem, and it’s not just this thread.
[/quote]

In my defense and his, the christian interpretation of god is exactly that of a person with supernatural powers who resides in a place far above our heads.
[/quote]

There is no defense for offending someone of faith. And I thought this was behind us. You’ve just told me why you used to say it, but you cannot justify it this way. Let me give you a comparison. Forlife is gay and if I called him any number of derogatory names because of it I would be acting insensitive to him (the world grasps this one). And while he and I have probably hundreds of posts back and forth I have never once used any of these derogatory names to define him. Of course we have called each other no good liars before—but thats’ another matter. :slight_smile:
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There’s no defense for offending someone of faith…but it’s ok to repeatedly insult a man’s integrity and accuse him of leaving his wife and children because he is gay. Classic double standard antics from the clown, the entertainment is priceless. [/quote]

You had a choice to make and you chose to look for what you thought were your own best interests. Yes, I questioned that, and I’m sure someday you will know the pain that you wreaked on your young family.

And as far as the name calling goes you take second place to no one.
[/quote]

Really…

You are just such an ignorant cock.
[/quote]

Calm down now, I think that two year Community College degree is going to your head.

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Ooohh… that showed me. Ouch… seriously, grow the fuck up. Every time you open your mouth to character assassinate someone else on this board, you just prove your ignorance.

I’ve said it before; you don’t know shit about anybody here. Yet, you persist in painting everyone you disagree with to be some sort of inexperienced, stupid degenerate.

I don’t know about anyone else, but I’ve had my fun poking at the hornets’ nest of your vapid mind. I’m done with it, though. You add nothing of value.

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[quote]swoleupinya wrote:

I’ve said it before; you don’t know shit about anybody here.[/quote]

I wouldn’t have known a thing about your two year degree from that community college if you’d kept you’re mouth shut. But, um, no I think that’s good…it is really. :slight_smile:

Hey you just described you, Mak and forlife in the same sentence - Cool!

[quote]I don’t know about anyone else, but I’ve had my fun poking at the hornets’ nest of your vapid mind. I’m done with it, though. You add nothing of value.
[/quote]

Oh I don’t know how “done with it” you are. After all you are currently reading this response and we both know it :slight_smile: I think you said that you were “done with it” a couple of weeks back. But, here you are ranting and raving once again. By the way, the only time I have responded to you is when YOU attack me first? But you don’t even realize that do you? You like to jump in throw an unwitty barb and then jump out and expect no response. No really check it out, that’s your MO. You’re proving one of my early theories (on this board) that lefty’s like you can dish it out, but are always so very highly offended when they get it back.

I won’t say a word to you unless you post to, or about me. Let’s see how long it will take you. I’ve been posting here a long time and I’ve found that pseudo intellectual blow hards like yourself cannot resist jumping in and blathering all over a thread.

The clocks running…

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
I wouldn’t have known a thing about your two year degree from that community college if you’d kept you’re mouth shut. But, um, no I think that’s good…it is really. :)[/quote]

Backhanded insults are still insults. Asshole.

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[quote]forlife wrote:
My point was to call out Zeb’s hypocrisy in complaining about insults against Christians, while dishing out some of the most hateful, personal vitriol I’ve seen in 5 years on these boards. Most of the Christians I talk with seem like pretty cool people, and don’t lower themselves to that level.

I’ll say this one last time, for the record.

My wife and I made a mutual decision to divorce. She felt as strongly that it was the right decision as I did. We spent a full year talking, doing research on mixed orientation marriages, and attending counseling before making our decision. I never once cheated on her. I’ve stayed very close to my kids, and am still on good terms with my ex-wife. This week, she, I, and my partner sat together at the holiday concerts for both of my kids. We continue to feel that we made the right decision. [/quote]

Good to hear everything worked out for you and your family. Sorry about my misunderstandings.

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[quote]forlife wrote:
My point was to call out Zeb’s hypocrisy in complaining about insults against Christians, while dishing out some of the most hateful, personal vitriol I’ve seen in 5 years on these boards. Most of the Christians I talk with seem like pretty cool people, and don’t lower themselves to that level.[/quote]

That’s mainly because as a rule people will treat you the way you treat them - I am following suit on that one.

Let’s see where have I read those words before?

I get it forlife before you got married you had no idea you were a homosexual. Then suddenly after fathering two children (and they were not adopted), at the age of 20 something it hit you, you’re a homosexual! No problem it’s your business - Again, just as I said 5 years ago when we discussed this if you didn’t bring it up then no one would know. And there would be no comment on your personal life. But you didn’t do that then and you are not doing it now. Why? I have no idea.

Anyway, any decision that you make you will feel is the right one, that’s what you do. And if it was the wrong decision you certainly wouldn’t be admitting it to me on a message board. Please no more information about your personal life please. My point was not necessarily to rehash your train wreck of a life, although I did use it as an example. My point was to mention that I feel far too many people (including you) do not take marriage seriously enough at the outset and then before they know it something seems to be missing. And they begin a relationship with another man or woman whichever and the marriage ends. The secular world is full of yapping psychologists who believe that the first answer is separation when in fact it’s the opposite.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
My point was not necessarily to rehash your train wreck of a life[/quote]

Why do you keep digging this hole for yourself? Just shut the fuck up. Seriously.

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[quote]Makavali wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
I wouldn’t have known a thing about your two year degree from that community college if you’d kept you’re mouth shut. But, um, no I think that’s good…it is really. :)[/quote]

Backhanded insults are still insults. Asshole.[/quote]

Oh come on, I mentioned you directly in the post and you come back with this weak crap? Sheesh, you were never much to begin with but you’re even slipping back from that.

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It looks like it’s a good time to let the thread die. It had a good run.