Don’t hesitate to throw the first punch if you think it’s going to go that way. Only experience can give you that sense.
In other cases, sometimes a dude just needs to get jacked (not necessarily in the face; body punches hurt worse in the right place), whether he was going to hit you or not. You have to decide what you will or won’t condone from other people.
[quote]JohnsTapeworm wrote:
Some asshole is being himself. How long have you or would you wait before unleashing the beast? Is it ever right to through the first punch?[/quote]
If it is absolutely necessary, get your retaliation in first.
[quote]skohcl wrote:
Violence never solved anything.[/quote]
Bullshit.
That is if you’re being serious.
The threat of violence alone is what keeps order in many ways.
wait, electronic cigarette? surely, there should be some questions popping up about this.
Where do you live? smoking indoors in public places is illegal in my small world. Jersey and New York world.
You should punch him in the face. Not because it’s the right thing to do, I mean in this case your wrong. But you should do it because your young, you can probably get another job that pays the same and you will feel better about yourself.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
wait, electronic cigarette? surely, there should be some questions popping up about this.[/quote]
I was going to google first.
[quote]JohnsTapeworm wrote:
I suppose I can just not give a fuck, eh?[/quote]
That, my friend, is the answer to many of life’s dilemmas.
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
wait, electronic cigarette? surely, there should be some questions popping up about this.
I was going to google first.[/quote]
Imagine an electronic inhaler, made to look like a smoke (complete with a led on the tip that brightens as you pull on it) but inside is pure synthetic nicotine. No tar, no arsenic, no cancer, simply breathe in pure nicotine and exhale water vapor. They came outa japan a couple years back or so im told.
[quote]fighting_fires wrote:
Holymac I do agree with you after rereading my post that it was kinda of dumb how i put it lol. I guess for me it depends on the person. If i think they can take me out with 1 punch different story. Someone who is just talking a big game and you know theyre the type to do all they can to get you in trouble for it, yes wait for them to throw a punch because A) it probably wont connect and/or hurt, B) theyre yuppie-ness will not be able to come after you.
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yeah. i agree with your point. i wouldn’t say let it go to blows first, but i can imagine you wanting to get inside their personal space so they can push you away, then unleash a bomb n their head.
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
yeah. i agree with your point. i wouldn’t say let it go to blows first, but i can imagine you wanting to get inside their personal space so they can push you away, then unleash a bomb n their head.[/quote]
exactly. hooray we agree haha
if violence doesnt solve the problem, use more violence…
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
fighting_fires wrote:
i can lose my temper pretty easily but theres only been a select few times where ive thrown the first punch. I will usually try to con them into throwing the first punch if i think its gonna go to throwing blows that way its always self defense as long as you stop when they can no longer defend themselves. granted i would rather not fight but it does happen. I would probably only throw the first punch if someone were to threaten my family.
one of the more stupid suggestins i’ve heard (IMO). if i think it’s going to go to blows, i’m either peacing out or that motherfucker is getting jacked in the face. there is no ‘waiting’ and certaintly no ‘conning’ him into throwing the first punch.
go ahead, con me into throwing the first punch and we’ll see how well that works out[/quote]
Exactly. If someone’s gotten me to the point of feeling threatened, my next step is getting scared, and when I get scared I get punchy. Sitting around waiting for someone to throw the first punch is fucking retarded, unless cops are around/involved. If someone’s got me on alert I bust him in the fuckin’ head and get the fuck out as soon as I’m sure he’s had enough.
Also, what’s an electronic cigarette?
When you realize that going to jail might be worth it.
and he likes macs.
That should’ve been the only reason you needed to hit him.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
When you realize that going to jail might be worth it. [/quote]
Yup, usually if the cops get involved and you throw the first punch, you’ll be jailed, even if the other person did start it.
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
fighting_fires wrote:
i can lose my temper pretty easily but theres only been a select few times where ive thrown the first punch. I will usually try to con them into throwing the first punch if i think its gonna go to throwing blows that way its always self defense as long as you stop when they can no longer defend themselves. granted i would rather not fight but it does happen. I would probably only throw the first punch if someone were to threaten my family.
one of the more stupid suggestins i’ve heard (IMO). if i think it’s going to go to blows, i’m either peacing out or that motherfucker is getting jacked in the face. there is no ‘waiting’ and certaintly no ‘conning’ him into throwing the first punch.
go ahead, con me into throwing the first punch and we’ll see how well that works out[/quote]
He might get knocked out, but you will get locked up. You will be seen as the aggressor most likely, and could be arrested and maybe sued for damages if you hurt him that bad. I know it sucks, believe me there were times I have had to resist tuning someone up. But people don’t know how to have a good go-around and then shake hands and have a beer.
Also, the guy who talks the most shit, is usually the guy who will punch last. He is not the guy you need to be worried about. The guy you need to worry about is the guy who walks up to you and knocks you in the mouth, without saying a word. A guy like that is not one to be messed with.
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
fighting_fires wrote:
Holymac I do agree with you after rereading my post that it was kinda of dumb how i put it lol. I guess for me it depends on the person. If i think they can take me out with 1 punch different story. Someone who is just talking a big game and you know theyre the type to do all they can to get you in trouble for it, yes wait for them to throw a punch because A) it probably wont connect and/or hurt, B) theyre yuppie-ness will not be able to come after you.
yeah. i agree with your point. i wouldn’t say let it go to blows first, but i can imagine you wanting to get inside their personal space so they can push you away, then unleash a bomb n their head.[/quote]
Well if you feel its going to happen better you than him let shit fly bury em. I was taught if they are coming to you in anger and they are within arms reach hell they already threw the first punch take em out hard. Can’t give a fool a break these days. You could be thinking its a clown yuppie and the guy just came back from prison fighting everyday for 6years and got a job as a mail clerk and just looks like a yuppie. Trying to be a nice guy and not hurt someone can get you killed.
Give Bruce Lee a bowl cut and dress him like a geek and he would look like a guy you would let have the first blow and that would be your azz.
Long story just to say if you feel like its going to happen don’t wait and there coming for you don’t wait hesitate or follow the fool outside to duke it out end it where it starts however you can.
[quote]JohnsTapeworm wrote:
I created this thread to see if what I did was right. I’m a nice person. I’m not very good at arguing with assholes. At the end of my shift at Office Depot (sigh) a few coworkers and I were sitting around waiting for the manager to finish her reports. The resident dick begins to hassle me for smoking my electronic cigarette.
He basically tells me to stop smoking it. Now, I’m a reasonable person. If the vapor bothered anybody I would put it away. The fact is I was in a chair a good 10 feet from him, the cig has a very minimal odor, no tar, no cancer, nothing. From what I gathered from his rant, he thinks I’m showing off. I like nicotine, especially flavored nicotine. I’m not going to walk outside to vape when I can do it right there.
As I said, I’m not good at being a dick, so my “discussion” with him doesn’t get very far and I eventually put the cig away. I tried to continue vaping after he shut up, but it just wasn’t satisfying.
I have never been in a fight, but I really thought tonight would be my first. He has been an ass since I started. He is very loud most of the time, likes to think he knows everything, and he likes macs.
Now, I’m not going to stop vaping at work, especially after the customers are gone. How can I handle this without beating his ass? I suppose I can just not give a fuck, eh?[/quote]
Sorry man I vented before I read this part. Not Giving a Fuck is always the best way to go hell it even makes your teeth sparkly white. You only have issues when the other guy gives to much of a fuck.
Otherwise the hell with him.
Not giving a fuck is not the best part.
Knowing that it pushes the guys buttons and doing it specifically for that reason is the best part. Fuck with the idiot until he turns purple with rage and hits you.
Then he gets arrested and fired. You take your lumps and in 3 months the story around the office is that he was the dickhead who blew up and and got fired.
I’m amazed by these “electronic cigarettes.” I don’t know if I could get down with them but they sound crazy.
Lot of vicious internet warriors on this site who punch first and ask questions later. It must be hard to get a job when you all have to check off the box that says, “Have you ever been convicted of a felony?”
OP- you fight when its serious, like when there’s an imminent threat to your personal health or to your family. Otherwise, I don’t care what the fuck the fight the fight started over, it’s called “simple assault” in most jurisdictions. You’ll probably get charged with that and get a fuck full of probation.
On top of this, if you’ve never been in a fight, you’ll probably get beat down too.
However, one thing I will say is this -you sound like a nice guy. This guy has you pegged as someone that he can bully and fuck around. You need to stop that, one way or another. I’m not advising fighting, but you are not in a good position here.