[quote]Man O’ War wrote:
AdamC wrote:
Rather than arming everyone to the teeth shouldn’t you be trying to stop people getting hold of weapons so easily. Maybe it’s too late for that, i don’t know.
All i know is, I wouldn’t know where to get a gun and I have absolutely no fear of anyone pulling a gun on me.
It’s too far gone. After the Port Arthur massacre in Australia, the govt bought back all the semi automatic weapons in the country. It cost them many, many millions and not that many people own or need guns over here. And they made the gun laws much stricter so you have to own over 500 acres or something like that before you can even apply for a permit.
The Yanks couldn’t do a buy back because there are more guns than people in some states. It would send the country broke.
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For the most part, gun violence is not an issue in the average American’s life. That’s why the Va-Tech massacre has struck a chord.
[quote]brushga wrote:
Man O’ War wrote:
AdamC wrote:
Rather than arming everyone to the teeth shouldn’t you be trying to stop people getting hold of weapons so easily. Maybe it’s too late for that, i don’t know.
All i know is, I wouldn’t know where to get a gun and I have absolutely no fear of anyone pulling a gun on me.
It’s too far gone. After the Port Arthur massacre in Australia, the govt bought back all the semi automatic weapons in the country. It cost them many, many millions and not that many people own or need guns over here. And they made the gun laws much stricter so you have to own over 500 acres or something like that before you can even apply for a permit.
The Yanks couldn’t do a buy back because there are more guns than people in some states. It would send the country broke.
For the most part, gun violence is not an issue in the average American’s life. That’s why the Va-Tech massacre has struck a chord.
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As much as the media sensationalizes things like this, what you say is still true.
This is a link to an article nearly 10 yrs. old but fairly topical. The problem hasn’t gotten any better. Even if the problem is identified, short of prison, the options are limited.
Virginia Tech was so desperate to keep bodies in the seats, they let this psycho stay.
Remember how he took pictures of the legs of the girls in his classes, with his phone? How a prof finally had to kick him out of her class, but they kept him there anyway?
I think that the school should be held to some degree of culpability here. This guy gave SO many warning signs, its criminal that he was still there.
He should have been in a mental institution, in a straightjacket.
[quote]Kiwigeezer wrote:
You my man are a penis. Just because people do not believe in god does not make them unfeeling robots. What in the blue fuck does atheism have to do with this tragedy.
This was a terrible incident and my heart goes out to all the families that lost their children.
Grow the fuck up extol! [/quote]
I do NOT say that they are unfeeling robots. I do NOT deny that their hearts go out to all the families who lost their children.
I do NOT question that they have morality–but I question the basis of their morality given their atheistical presuppositions.
My post was simply to say that they are very inconsistent with what they profess to believe regarding evolution. The evolutionists can talk a big game, but when the chips are on the table, they back down and act as though evolution weren’t true.
If they want to remain an evolved meat bag full of chemicals, then they ought to act consistently. They need to stop acting as if what happened was “evil” or a “terrible tragedy” or a “moral outrage.”
They need to remember that they are lumps of matter who are thinking (having neurons go snap, crackle, pop in the head) about one lump of matter who flung a bunch of matter at high speeds at other lumps of matter.
Virginia Tech was so desperate to keep bodies in the seats, they let this psycho stay.
[b]Remember how he took pictures of the legs of the girls in his classes, with his phone? How a prof finally had to kick him out of her class, but they kept him there anyway?
I think that the school should be held to some degree of culpability here. This guy gave SO many warning signs, its criminal that he was still there.[/b]
He should have been in a mental institution, in a straightjacket.[/quote]
I’ve heard so many stories of how this kid was weird and messed up.
What blows my mind is that any one, single story would put this guy near the top of the list of strangest people I’ve ever met.
The fact so many of these strange anecdotes are coming out about him… WOW!
I actually feel a little safer when I hear about guys like him. It seems that sociopaths would stick out like a sore thumb, and I apparently have never come across one in my life.
[quote]extol7extol wrote:
Kiwigeezer wrote:
You my man are a penis. Just because people do not believe in god does not make them unfeeling robots. What in the blue fuck does atheism have to do with this tragedy.
This was a terrible incident and my heart goes out to all the families that lost their children.
Grow the fuck up extol!
I do NOT say that they are unfeeling robots. I do NOT deny that their hearts go out to all the families who lost their children.
I do NOT question that they have morality–but I question the basis of their morality given their atheistical presuppositions.
My post was simply to say that they are very inconsistent with what they profess to believe regarding evolution. The evolutionists can talk a big game, but when the chips are on the table, they back down and act as though evolution weren’t true.
If they want to remain an evolved meat bag full of chemicals, then they ought to act consistently. They need to stop acting as if what happened was “evil” or a “terrible tragedy” or a “moral outrage.”
They need to remember that they are lumps of matter who are thinking (having neurons go snap, crackle, pop in the head) about one lump of matter who flung a bunch of matter at high speeds at other lumps of matter.[/quote]
Who are these evolutionists your talking about? Who’s backing down and acting as if evolution isnt true?
I firmly believe in evolution and I still think what happened was a great tragedy.
No one should lose a loved one in such a way.
You see extol what your saying may be true at a fundamental atomic level but we actually have sweet fuck all control over the ‘snap crackle and pop’ in our bodies.
Humans have emotions I can no more turn them off because I’m a evolved meat bag of chemicals than you can.
But most importantly of all, why are you talking about evolution in regards to this topic?