[quote]Spock81 wrote:
If I’m ever in a grownup person relationship I am going to put a drum kit in the basement so if we get mad at eachother we can go bang the crap out of it and get our frustrations out.
Good idea, eh? EHH?
Ya, I’m not really reading this thread much, but I like randomly contributing crap :)[/quote]
Punching bag.
Here is my first ever relationship advice:
Every marriage should have one.
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Preferably, the punching bag would not be either spouse.
Philanderers, alleged murderers, rapists → socially dominant as fuck, alpha- Serial killers get tons of “love” letters.
In case of pedophiles I would expect that social ostracism would weigh heavily against him, so I will treat it as an unproven assumption that women stay with those voluntarily. They often will though as long as he is not exposed, which just goes to show that there are women who will trade in her daughters sexuality and mental health for a piece of alpha.
The last part about a lot of women not leaving in case of disease or accidents but everyone is really free to look up when women initiate a divorce, job loss, loss of status, illness, whatnot.
So in last case NAWALT if I must, but a lot of women are like that.
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Oh, I see. If I understand, that quote of yours was some kind of warning to the ‘‘betas’’ guys out there. A woman is likely to leave her ‘‘beta’’ other half when he needs her the most. Right? No? It all comes down to the Beta and Alpha ranks, yet again. Was that your point? A woman would not leave a man if he were an Alpha, which means, a woman doesn’t ALWAYS leave. Right? No? Haaaaaaaa!! My thoughts are scattered!!! Somebody saaaaaaaaave me!!!
Do you wish you’d been more ‘‘Alpha’’ when you got dumped, Orion?
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Wow!!!
Not a single cuss word!
:-)))
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Never mind: alternative explanation in another post.
Men have by far the most power in the relationship game. [/quote]
I’ve read hardly anything in this thread longer than 3 lines but this statement caught my eye.
I’ve always had the opinion that women have the power right up until the moment the penis 1st goes in the vagina. Once that happens, the guy is in charge. There are exceptions of course but on average this is true. For the most part once a couple has fucked, the guy has to really fuck up for her to walk on him.
Men have by far the most power in the relationship game. [/quote]
I’ve read hardly anything in this thread longer than 3 lines but this statement caught my eye.
I’ve always had the opinion that women have the power right up until the moment the penis 1st goes in the vagina. Once that happens, the guy is in charge. There are exceptions of course but on average this is true. For the most part once a couple has fucked, the guy has to really fuck up for her to walk on him.[/quote]
I did not write this, I just agreed with it.
As soon as a man gets comfortable with approaching women, the game changes.
She only has as much power as he has options, because while she might say no, another one will say yes, yes, oh my god, yeeeeeesssss! eventually.
Ok, just going to try to jump back in here. I talked to my wife last night about this thread because I was genuinely curious if my opinion was as skewed on the whole men being the self absorbed ones in the relationship and seeing as how she grew up somewhere else I knew she would have a different perspective. She pointed out to me a couple things.
I come from a fairly long line of cheating men (father, both grandfathers, both uncles) who’s wives stayed with them anyway so that undoubtedly has changed my view on the subject. Also in this area, that happens quite frequently and her conjecture is it has something to do with there being such a high rate of people getting married really young and having kids.
There is a heavy oil field/boilermaker culture here where people get out of school or community college and start a job that essentially makes their spouses single parents for a month at the time. Maybe this forces the women into growing up faster than the men. In conclusion, she says she has noticed a far higher incidence of men being the self-absorbed ones here than in anywhere she has lived and let me know that this is not typical.
Men have by far the most power in the relationship game. [/quote]
I’ve read hardly anything in this thread longer than 3 lines but this statement caught my eye.
I’ve always had the opinion that women have the power right up until the moment the penis 1st goes in the vagina. Once that happens, the guy is in charge. There are exceptions of course but on average this is true. For the most part once a couple has fucked, the guy has to really fuck up for her to walk on him.[/quote]
I did not write this, I just agreed with it.
As soon as a man gets comfortable with approaching women, the game changes.
She only has as much power as he has options, because while she might say no, another one will say yes, yes, oh my god, yeeeeeesssss! eventually. [/quote]
Orion, I don’t think we are that different ultimately in our views on men’s positioning in the gender dynamic. I just think that maybe you are a little more jaded than I am and maybe that has to do with me just being 26 and never being badly burned by anyone that I had any kind of deep connection with.
[quote]bpick86 wrote:
I come from a fairly long line of cheating men (father, both grandfathers, both uncles) who’s wives stayed with them anyway so that undoubtedly has changed my view on the subject. Also in this area, that happens quite frequently and her conjecture is it has something to do with there being such a high rate of people getting married really young and having kids.[/quote]
You know I can’t agree with everything you say, but this part right here is undeniably true imo.
[quote]bpick86 wrote:
I come from a fairly long line of cheating men (father, both grandfathers, both uncles) who’s wives stayed with them anyway so that undoubtedly has changed my view on the subject. Also in this area, that happens quite frequently and her conjecture is it has something to do with there being such a high rate of people getting married really young and having kids.[/quote]
You know I can’t agree with everything you say, but this part right here is undeniably true imo.[/quote]
It was actually your response to my earlier statement calling me misandristic that caused me to do a little self reflection on the matter and seek a second opinion.
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
If I’m ever in a grownup person relationship I am going to put a drum kit in the basement so if we get mad at eachother we can go bang the crap out of it and get our frustrations out.
Good idea, eh? EHH?
Ya, I’m not really reading this thread much, but I like randomly contributing crap :)[/quote]
Punching bag.
Here is my first ever relationship advice:
Every marriage should have one.
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Preferably, the punching bag would not be either spouse.
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