The reason Cantonese is more prevalent in San Francisco is that a lot of the good Chinese chefs in San Fran are from Hong Kong or Canton. And Vancouver B.C., Seattle, San Francisco are all coastal, so is Canton. It was kinda nice that my grandparents lived down there, so that I was able to be around a lot of Cantonese when growing up. Heh, but have since forgotten A LOT since then.
The dim sum that is popular in the Chinatown of San Fran. originated in Canton and are staple dishes in Hong Kong. (dim sum means “little bit of heart” in Cantonese).
There are two types of Cantonese: mainland (China) and Hong Kong. However the primary language spoken in mainland China is Mandarin.
Sorry for rambling. Just a wee bit proud of my heritage.
If you’re ever in SF with Ko, we’ll have to yam-cha.
If the dim-sum place you’re talking about, in chinatown, is the one I’m thinking of, then we’ll have to take you somewhere else. It has good food, but has gotten a bit too touristy. There are a couple of other places that are a bit better and have more of the asian feel.
I agree w/ you that the perhaps the intent of the original poster (diesel) was to discuss his attraction to and appreciation of Asian women. However, I have to say that the tone of the thread has gone downhill real fast, and I think Pat was right in her post.
The general tone of the posts here are so bad and reeking stereotypes that I can’t decide if I should be offended or consider most of the posters here ignorant, stupid, or both.
If a guy wants to acquire a submissive, pretty, eager-to-please thing, he should get a well-trained puppy. Women were not created for men’s pleasure. Most posters here except chrismcl seem to have anything to offer to “hot Asian women” anyways. At least chrismcl is trying to learn the culture, language, etc. The general attitude reflected here–O I need one of those submissive Asian women to please me, and the aggressive, demanding Asian women are all crazy with princess syndrome–is what makes me NOT want to date many of the white guys who approach me or at least makes me very wary of their intentions since anyone who knows me would know that I’m anything but submissive and eager to please. (I wasn’t cynical or jaded about the whole dating a white guy thing until I saw what happened to some of my Asian girl friends dating white guys, so if you want to blame someone, blame yourselves who are contributing to the cynicism I harbor.)
O BTW - Pat wasn’t the one to bring up the term “yellow fever”. The term was brought up by previous posters, who BTW are white males.
Perhaps I’m getting a bit sensitive about this, but it does get annoying when I’m judged based on my race rather than who I am.
Patricia - there is actually a third dialect which sounds nothing like Mandarian, but somewhat similar to Cantonese. This is what my parents speak, and I do a little bit
Perhaps it’s the Mainland Cantonese you speak of - I think it’s called See up - or something
Sei yap. It is a dialect of cantonese, to the west of Macau; so called because of four towns: Enping, Kaiping, Xinhui, and Taishan. This dialect is also loosely known as Toishanese.
Come on ladies. Ligthen up. Stereotypes, archetypes, classics. Its all the same thing: fantasy. Every person has his closet dreams. But its precisely that: dreams.
No guy will go as far as to act only on a dreams basis. And shame on him if he does. People are multi-layered individuals of deepness. Any guy who goes for just the image better have pretty superficial expectations, otherwise any REAL girl/woman will pop his balloon real fast. Fantasies are just that, fantasies.
Surely, you`ll always have the guy who has the luck of a life time, who gets it all in a single package. But in what does this affect YOUR life? His life is his, yours is yours.
And, anyway, appearances asides, the true test of a quality relationship is the test of time and the sparks that stays alive. If one bases his happyness on a list of conquests or chasing dreams, he`ll get his Waterloo, eventually. The giant Pinspotter of life places everyone in his right place, without fail, long-term.
Point taken. This thread is primarily not about the things I mentioned in the previous paragraph. However, I’m sure guys (white boys or otherwise) that have seriously dated Asian girls and others do appreciate the uniqueness and differences involved in dating someone from another culture or ethnic group (but primarily those that grew up in another culture). You are right however, that is not really what this thread is about. However, I don’t see anything wrong with appreciating the attractive physical features unique to a given ethnic group either. Of course I can see how many of the posts (and possibly parts of mine) could be offensive.
As for the “whoever I am”, I definitely saw that one coming. Completely understood too as I understand and appreciate the seniority and earning of respect from the forum and I have never taken the time to contribute frequently enough to establish a reputation. I’ve been reading t-mag, the information it provides, the ideals it promotes, and so forth for over 3 yrs. And of course I read MM2K when TC was the editor in chief and it was worth a shit. I have posted here on occasion under KC (i think there have been a couple of KC’s over the yrs though most of the posts are mine) but generally just like to read and learn from the people who post here.
This post simply caught my attention and got a response from me as I have had 2 serious and 2 causual relationships with Asian women.
A beautiful Asian lady is nothing more than a beautiful lady. A beautiful black lady is nothing more than a beautiful lady. It’s the same for all “races”. If you are beautiful, you will get noticed, no matter the ethnic background.
I never think of Asian ladies as submissive women. They are still women, and deserve to be treated like any other woman - like a princess or a queen. It’s that simple.
Bizarre coincidence (no shit!) that I wound up on this guy`s website from using an emailed link (to another page) and that he had this comment in another section:
Life is strange, sometimes…(Twilight Zone Music in the background)
I thought your comment about the getting a puppy was funny. I can gaurantee you that has not been my experience and as I mentioned in my previous posts not something I would want at all. As far as the “yellow fever” thing goes, I have only heard that term a couple of times and do not care for it. I think it is somewhat offensive and though I have not asked any of the Asian women I dated about it (and don’t plan on doing so), I would assume that they would find it offensive too as it totally implies liking someone for their appearance/ethnicity, and not as an individual.
I can’t stand the submissive, overly-shy, giggly type of Asian woman that most men seem to be attracted to. I have a friend who is of Chinese descent that has bigger balls than I do and she is one of the sexiest women I have ever met. I don’t want to sound racist, but a beautiful Chinese woman with a shaved head, wearing a wife-beater(excuse the name)tank-top with loose-fitting jeans is oh-so hot! Along the same lines, some of the most naturally beautiful women I have ever seen are of Native American descent.
Dan C – O…so stereotypes are just fantasies? So it’s perfectly OK for me to tell everyone that white people from the South must be either rednecks or trailer trash or racists/KKK? I didn’t know that the stereotypes are perfectly acceptable. I learn new things everyday.
Bruce – if people say some stupid stereotypes about muscular women who can deadlift, yes, this thread would be offensive and/or just plain stupid.
Bruceter74: Yes/b>; especially when most muscular women who can deadlift don’t really care about a man’s opinion if it’s “attractive” or not. As what Stella said: we’re not here for men’s amusement. In any case.
KC1: my response was meant in that you obviously did not know of my background. Most of the forum regulars do.
CoolColJ: I’ll ask my mom. From what I understand, there are several “forms” of Cantonese (and Mandarin, etc.). My mom speaks most - pretty well, I might add. As well as being fluent in Mandarin. Man, I’m relearning Cantonese AND trying to learn a bit of Mandarin. Talk about confusing!!!
STELLA: If youre willingly self-biased by a sample limited to your own life (or worse yet, no terrain experience), how can you be confident on what you assert? In that case, it only takes one counter-example and youre off biting the dust…
Go on. Generalize all you want. If you paint too large on your comments, you`ll get your retribution by the concerned folks eventually.
Anyway, peoples REAL thoughts are measured by their actions. Its like the Agatha Christy`s murder books: would you accuse her of being a murderer because she thought of those plots? Nope.
Think or fantasize all you want, until you translate it into actions (like for example going out to try to seduce your X fantasy girl) or in your behavior/demeanor, its all in your head, and you cant be judged for it. But when it translates into real-world actions…far different story. Take fans and stalkers. I may be a fan of Actress XYZ and dream about her every so often, like many others. If I adopt stalker behaviour, I`ll get the consequences that go with it.
Think all you want, Ill still measure how it adds up by your actions. But thats me. No hard feelings =0)
Fucking thing ate my response to the article DanC. It was a good response too. Anyway, really liked it and totally agree with it. Thanks for posting it.
Pat, of course I knew your background as part Asian (didn’t remember the specific nationality though). I’ve been around longer than 90% of the people here. Doesn’t mean anything though as I don’t post regularly.
i’ve seen too many degenerate ugly mofos in Japan just lookin to score with chix cause they think they can, because their such “big n strong amerrricans”.
absolute dumb asses.
i hope they get their haole asses whupped in Hawaii.
that said im very happily married with a Japanese woman - but i love her for who she is. never gave a damn about race. have dated around and found great people of many backgrounds.
