Well I wasn’t familiar with test troches. I don’t really know how fast acting those are, but I guess that could kick in soon enough to give him a little boost during the game. I mean comparing that to a cheque drop is like comparing a pug to a mastiff, but still. What a weird regimen. I guess that’s what high profile athletes have to do to beat testing though. There’s barely any actual test in there at all. It’s almost entirely GH based.
[quote]csulli wrote:
Well I wasn’t familiar with test troches. I don’t really know how fast acting those are, but I guess that could kick in soon enough to give him a little boost during the game. I mean comparing that to a cheque drop is like comparing a pug to a mastiff, but still. What a weird regimen. I guess that’s what high profile athletes have to do to beat testing though. There’s barely any actual test in there at all. It’s almost entirely GH based.[/quote]
Hay I got a test for ya;
You juicing?
Nope
PLAY BALL!
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
It’s not just sports though, it’s every day at very job.
Leaving work a few minutes early early.
Taking an extra 10 minutes of break.
Adding a couple extra push-ups/sit ups to your PRT score 
Taking that pad of post it notes home cause you ran out.
Bartenders pouring a shot that’s “on the house” to get extra tips.
Etc etc etc
Its all the same thing and no one bats an eye at those.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
It’s not just sports though, it’s every day at very job.
Leaving work a few minutes early early.
Taking an extra 10 minutes of break.
Adding a couple extra push-ups/sit ups to your PRT score
Taking that pad of post it notes home cause you ran out.
Bartenders pouring a shot that’s “on the house” to get extra tips.
Etc etc etc
Its all the same thing and no one bats an eye at those.[/quote]
Some of those are a little different, but I get your point. I would argue, in most of these cases someone does care though. If I own a bar and the bartender is stealing to increase his tips, I care. If my employees steal post it notes (regularly and likely along with other supplies) as the owner I care. Cheating on a PFT score I really care about.
I think to say no one cares is a big leap of faith. Furthermore, a big difference is visibility. If Billy takes some post it notes few if anyone is even going to notice. If Barry Bonds breaks the rules, lies about it, and breaks a bunch of MLB records millions of kids are witnessing it. I don’t think it’s a great idea to teach kids it’s okay to cheat as long as you’re successful in the end. Just my opinion.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!! (said in maude flanders voice)
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
He had him on a regimen of what amounted to testosterone gummie bears that would be in and out of your system by the time the game was over lol[/quote]
I was wondering about this all day. Wtf are these test gummies? Was he giving him cheque drops or something? That’s the only thing I could think of. Can someone who knows more about gear explain this fast acting oral that’s back out of your system in a few hours?[/quote]
Didn’t bother reading the article, but there is also such a thing as testosterone suspension (no ester). As a free base test will spike and be gone within a couple hours, and I imagine you could load up quite a bit on it. No thoughts whether you could eat soak it into “gummy bears” or not.
Cheque drops are essentially the same thing (different drug). So if cheque drops work, then test suspension is likely to work (and a number of lifters do like it for competitions or training sessions).
I highly doubt any hand/eye coordination was improved however, although in a heightened state it is possible that reaction time decreases due to strenuous nervous system activation, but I wouldn’t be able to say.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
He had him on a regimen of what amounted to testosterone gummie bears that would be in and out of your system by the time the game was over lol[/quote]
I was wondering about this all day. Wtf are these test gummies? Was he giving him cheque drops or something? That’s the only thing I could think of. Can someone who knows more about gear explain this fast acting oral that’s back out of your system in a few hours?[/quote]
Didn’t bother reading the article, but there is also such a thing as testosterone suspension (no ester). As a free base test will spike and be gone within a couple hours, and I imagine you could load up quite a bit on it. No thoughts whether you could eat soak it into “gummy bears” or not.
Cheque drops are essentially the same thing (different drug). So if cheque drops work, then test suspension is likely to work (and a number of lifters do like it for competitions or training sessions).
I highly doubt any hand/eye coordination was improved however, although in a heightened state it is possible that reaction time decreases due to strenuous nervous system activation, but I wouldn’t be able to say.[/quote]
Oh definitely, I just didn’t know how well test suspension worked when taken orally lol.
If it’s a small dose lozenge it would probably be designed to absorb through the lining of the mouth rather than actually be digested, what with the first pass and all that.
Kinda like those nicotine lozenges.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/01/13/sports/baseball/alex-rodriguez-alleged-drug-regimen.html[/quote]
It would be great if someone like Bill Roberts popped in here and broke this down for us.