Well i figured you meant me since Im the biggest proponent and have been for a long time.
Iamnobody,
What you are talking about is IT band syndrome and I see this alot especially with runners. This is easily treated by releasing the adhesions from the TFL muscle, glute medius, IT band, the lateral belly of the quad just for starters. These are just some muscles (list is not complete) that can be afftected by this type of pain. I have not seen “knees ripping off” as you put it but chronic structural problems will affect other areas of the body so if I were you I would get it treated. For starters strengthen the vastus medialis by lying down face up, turn the big toe out and lift the leg up in a controlled fashion to a count of 2 and lowering with a count of 6.
Do 3 sets of 15, build up to 3 sets of 30 and add a 1 pound weight to your ankle and restart at 3 sets of 15, keep doing this cycle. This is just one easy exercise, obviously make sure you stretch the IT band.
Good Luck
Creed and others that are wondering,
The reason you look at the adductors when you knees buckle in is the eccentric control of that muscle. Eccentric (negative) control of the adductor is what you wanna build up. Everyone builds up the concentric part but neglects the nagatives. So if your knees buckle your adductors are weak eccentrically. Since we are getting into this in depth as your knees buckle in your foot will excessively roll in (pronation). So you wonder is the mechanical problem is the knee (weak adductor eccentrically) or excessive pronation? Have someone place their hands on the inside your knee and hold your knees from buckling in (stabilize don’t push) if your foot over pronates then the proble is at the foot or if the foot doesn’t over pronate then the problem was at the knee.
Enjoy the functional squat make sure you have someone watch you and not do it yourself.
Good Luck
TT, thanks for the quick reply. I am planning on grilling the doc when I meet with him. I did that with my last chiro, but he was so busy with clients that he rushed through a lot of his explanations and his treatment as well (I think) and that is the main reason I’m not going back to him and looking elsewhere. He was competent, he is the chiro for the Chicago Blackhawks and is registered with the NHLPA, so he can’t be all bad.
MizzouDawg, you said you were looking for someone good in the Midwest, and Chicago might be a bit far for you, but I can let you know how it goes if you’re interested.
Please do that Johnny Chimpo. I will actually be up in Chicago next month.
Sorry about the typos in the above message about the functional squats if anyone doesn’t understand just let me know I’ll explain it again. Just trying to respond to all the private messages and questions. Didn’t review the post.
Thanks everyone
Thanks for the explanation Dr.Gregg it all makes sense now!
BTW know any good ART practioners in the UK?
Hey Dr. Gregg! Know any good ART practitioners in the Seattle area?
T-T, thanks for another one of your informative, well-crafted posts. I’m glad to hear you’re back in the swing of things.
MizzouDawg, I had my first appt yesterday, and it went well enough for me to go again this Thursday. My session mainly focused on my neck and loosening my scalenes (sp?) and work on my left shoulder. While the neck movements were very uncomfortable, I noticed immediate improvement, and today my neck definitely feels better than it has in a long time. Still some soreness and discomfort, but after a couple more sessions, it should be good to go.
After that, we worked on my shoulder. Apparently, I have a lot of scar tissue on my pec and on my delt where they overlap, and some on my lat. It is a little sore and a little bruised today, but overall it does feel better. I will have a better judgment on Tues. after I bench. The doctor said I would probably need 6-8 treatments to get it to 90-95% normal, but he will be able to better gauge it after he knows about my recovery time and how much my body can handle. I told him to do his worst, but I think he was holding out on me, the bastard!
I think you said that you would be in Chicago in a month or so, and I will have a better idea after a couple more treatments if this guy is good. So far, I dig it and I am looking forward to my next session.
Gregg,
I have been experiencing sp. posterior shins splints for the past 4 months.
The Bone Scan reveals there is no stress fracture but there is plenty of activity going on down there.
Is ART applicable to improving my condition?
Like many of the readers on this thread, I’d love to find a good ART practitioner in Europe. I found a guy here in Austria who does something similar that he calls orthopathic-something. It’s the closest thing I’ve found and he has been the only person to ever be able to help me with a back injury I’d had for over 6 years. I’d like to try the real thing, though, so anyone who knows a good ART guy in Europe should drop a quick line. Thanks in advance and thanks for this great thread, TT.
T-T~
Found a ART provider in the DC area (as there are none in the central VA area).
She comes highly recommended and i actually found some articles on her results working on some other strength athletes.
Wish it could be sooner but I will be seeing her on May 5th.
Hopefully I can take it easy on the shoulder (except for the HG comp on the 24th) and keep the soreness down.
I’m having a massage this week in order to relax the surrounding muscles in my neck and back and relieve some of the tension until then.
S
TT, you should get some kind of kickback from all of the ART providers out there. Anyone else notice that seemingly half the new posts recently have been related to ART? I am going to start scheduling my appointments for a couple months at a time to make sure I can get them!
heavysprout, if you can’t get references from someone here on T-Mag, ask the practitioner to provide you with patient references. Ideally you’d want patients who had issues similar to yours. Myself, I’d probably ask for 5 references. I wouldn’t go to a provider that wasn’t willing to give me references.
FYI, T-Peeps, Dr. Gregg might be in the process of moving/relocating. That’s probably why he’s not replying/responding. I’ll send him an email to see what’s going on and when he’ll be online.
MD, thanks! (grin)
johnnychimpo, bruising is not something you should experience with ART. Properly done, the point of pressure/contact (the finger or thumb) should not move along the surface of the skin. The guided movement by the practitioner should move the shortened muscle through its full ROM. Done this way (i.e., correctly), bruising will not occur. Dr. Gregg and I had a discussion about this. It’s a technique thing.
TT, now that it has been a couple days, there is no bruise, but there was some slight discoloration the day after, but that was it. It might have been a combination of the discoloration and soreness that made me think it was a bruise, or maybe I should just lay off the sauce for a while.
Terry,
Just a suggestion, but why not write this type of post up and fire it over to TC? They would make great articles, even if it is somewhat editorialized on your part.
TT, this was a very informative and intesting post. You sound like you found the best ART doc around.
Dr. Gregg, I have a couple of questions. I had injuries to both of my shoulders about 5 years ago. I had surgery (procedure was called anterior shift) on my right shoulder. I think that this shoulder pain has contributed to pains in other places. Both of my elows hurt and I have pain in the center of my chest. Sometimes on the right and sometimes on the left. I went to an ART doc who was somewhat helpful although I do not think he was to familiar with people who work out and perform sports ect. He was certified in upper extremities and was a level 2. Are you a level 3 ? Also how can I find someone who specializes in shoulders like yourself? I am in Angwin California right now. On the ART website it does not mention what each practitioner specializes in. Do you have any suggestions for me. Stretches ect.
Ok, I tried reading the whole thread but it’s alot and I was getting anxious to post. So here it goes. I have a knot in my neck on my left side. Also on that side I have pain that goes down from my shoulder to my elbow when I do benching type movements. That left trap also seems tight. It is like I could draw a line down from my neck to my elbow of where the pain and tightness is. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Does this call for ART? Thanks
Please forgive my ignorance, but what is ART?