Arnold is Going to Be in Terminator 5!

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[quote]Ratchet wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
I absolutely love the first one and really like the second one. I don’t want the saga ruined for me. It’s like with Aliens, for me it’s a trilogy.

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Aliens as a trilogy? the 3rd was AWFUL!!! if they had done the original 3rd and had the aliens make it to earth i might have agreed, but the 3rd one that got made was horrible…[/quote]

I already wrote, in this same thread, why I think Alien 3 is good.

Alien prequel…hmm…colour me skeptic. Like with every single remake that is being done, starting with Die Hard 4.0, Indiana Jones IV, etc.
I mean, Indiana Jones…you had the plot of the video game (Fate of Atlantis) which is amazing and you have to go with something totally unbelievable as aliens? Come on! Give us Holy Grail and the Ark!

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[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]Ratchet wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
I absolutely love the first one and really like the second one. I don’t want the saga ruined for me. It’s like with Aliens, for me it’s a trilogy.

[/quote]

Aliens as a trilogy? the 3rd was AWFUL!!! if they had done the original 3rd and had the aliens make it to earth i might have agreed, but the 3rd one that got made was horrible…[/quote]

I already wrote, in this same thread, why I think Alien 3 is good.

Alien prequel…hmm…colour me skeptic. Like with every single remake that is being done, starting with Die Hard 4.0, Indiana Jones IV, etc.
I mean, Indiana Jones…you had the plot of the video game (Fate of Atlantis) which is amazing and you have to go with something totally unbelievable as aliens? Come on! Give us Holy Grail and the Ark!
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The way Indy 4 turned out was entirely on George Lucas’s head. He’s also the reason that it was delayed for so long.

Spielberg, Ford and Lucas had an agreement not go ahead with production unless they had a script they all liked. Frank Darabont was hired as writer, Ford and Spielberg loved what he did; Lucas didn’t, so Darabont was replaced:

I guess they ploughed ahead in the end when Ford’s age became an issue. In a hysterical turn of events, LaBuff blamed himself for the failure of the movie because he couldn’t monkey swing. Ford also called LaBuff “a fucking idiot” for slating the movie in a later interview…

Prometheus is no ordinary prequel though. This is Ridley Scott we’re talking about here: the guy who directed Alien is doing a prequel to his own movie…

Not to mention Michael “Magneto” Fassbender is following in the footsteps of Ian Holm, Lance Henriksen and ,um, Winona Ryder by playing an android.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]Ratchet wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
I absolutely love the first one and really like the second one. I don’t want the saga ruined for me. It’s like with Aliens, for me it’s a trilogy.

[/quote]

Aliens as a trilogy? the 3rd was AWFUL!!! if they had done the original 3rd and had the aliens make it to earth i might have agreed, but the 3rd one that got made was horrible…[/quote]

I already wrote, in this same thread, why I think Alien 3 is good.

Alien prequel…hmm…colour me skeptic. Like with every single remake that is being done, starting with Die Hard 4.0, Indiana Jones IV, etc.
I mean, Indiana Jones…you had the plot of the video game (Fate of Atlantis) which is amazing and you have to go with something totally unbelievable as aliens? Come on! Give us Holy Grail and the Ark!
[/quote]

The way Indy 4 turned out was entirely on George Lucas’s head. He’s also the reason that it was delayed for so long.

Spielberg, Ford and Lucas had an agreement not go ahead with production unless they had a script they all liked. Frank Darabont was hired as writer, Ford and Spielberg loved what he did; Lucas didn’t, so Darabont was replaced:

I guess they ploughed ahead in the end when Ford’s age became an issue. In a hysterical turn of events, LaBuff blamed himself for the failure of the movie because he couldn’t monkey swing. Ford also called LaBuff “a fucking idiot” for slating the movie in a later interview…

Prometheus is no ordinary prequel though. This is Ridley Scott we’re talking about here: the guy who directed Alien is doing a prequel to his own movie…

Not to mention Michael “Magneto” Fassbender is following in the footsteps of Ian Holm, Lance Henriksen and ,um, Winona Ryder by playing an android.[/quote]

Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade is one of my top movies, that’s why I was disappointed with the final product of Indy IV. I mean, it’s not a bad movie, but it’s ranked below the other three (Yes, even Temple of Doom). At least it tried to keep the same model as the others, not like Die Hard, which was just…non-sense.

I trust Ridley Scott, I can’t remember any bad movies from him, so we will see.

EDIT :
I like this more.
“Ridley Scott was quick to retort, stating that “this is not an Alien prequel”; it does appear that Scott intends to make Prometheus completely different from the other Alien films. Exactly how is not yet clear, but it is likely that the story takes place within the same universe, but it is not directly connected to the events of the original.”

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[quote]farmerson12 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:
Only if this guy is T-5000 I will pay to see this guy as a Teminator.

DAMN! I’ve never seen that show, but if any of it is like that amazing scene, I gotta see more!

Edit to add: That scene alone cold be a short film. It suggests SO much… that we walk near death - sometimes crossing its path - all the time.
Creepy and sobering.

That whole scene was a great piece of art.

Sorry the hijack.
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It’s cool no Hijack.

And yes the scene was a intro to one of the four horseman ( you guess which one he was) HA! It was a stand alone intro and when I found out where death was going it made me love the scene even more.
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I like this scene:

Started to watch the show because of it.
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Is it still airing? I havent seen a new episode in awhile. Its a good series.[/quote]

Still on, just hope it hasn’t peaked.

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[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]Ratchet wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
I absolutely love the first one and really like the second one. I don’t want the saga ruined for me. It’s like with Aliens, for me it’s a trilogy.

[/quote]

Aliens as a trilogy? the 3rd was AWFUL!!! if they had done the original 3rd and had the aliens make it to earth i might have agreed, but the 3rd one that got made was horrible…[/quote]

I already wrote, in this same thread, why I think Alien 3 is good.

Alien prequel…hmm…colour me skeptic. Like with every single remake that is being done, starting with Die Hard 4.0, Indiana Jones IV, etc.
I mean, Indiana Jones…you had the plot of the video game (Fate of Atlantis) which is amazing and you have to go with something totally unbelievable as aliens? Come on! Give us Holy Grail and the Ark!
[/quote]

The way Indy 4 turned out was entirely on George Lucas’s head. He’s also the reason that it was delayed for so long.

Spielberg, Ford and Lucas had an agreement not go ahead with production unless they had a script they all liked. Frank Darabont was hired as writer, Ford and Spielberg loved what he did; Lucas didn’t, so Darabont was replaced:

I guess they ploughed ahead in the end when Ford’s age became an issue. In a hysterical turn of events, LaBuff blamed himself for the failure of the movie because he couldn’t monkey swing. Ford also called LaBuff “a fucking idiot” for slating the movie in a later interview…

Prometheus is no ordinary prequel though. This is Ridley Scott we’re talking about here: the guy who directed Alien is doing a prequel to his own movie…

Not to mention Michael “Magneto” Fassbender is following in the footsteps of Ian Holm, Lance Henriksen and ,um, Winona Ryder by playing an android.[/quote]

Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade is one of my top movies, that’s why I was disappointed with the final product of Indy IV. I mean, it’s not a bad movie, but it’s ranked below the other three (Yes, even Temple of Doom). At least it tried to keep the same model as the others, not like Die Hard, which was just…non-sense.

I trust Ridley Scott, I can’t remember any bad movies from him, so we will see.

EDIT :
I like this more.
“Ridley Scott was quick to retort, stating that “this is not an Alien prequel”; it does appear that Scott intends to make Prometheus completely different from the other Alien films. Exactly how is not yet clear, but it is likely that the story takes place within the same universe, but it is not directly connected to the events of the original.”

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^ Supposedly it has something to with the “Space Jockey” in Alien. There’s always the possibility that he intends to use the new movie to establish Blade Runner and Alien as taking place in the same universe. AFAIK that rumor hasn’t been quashed.

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That feels a bit strange, but well, if the movie is good enough, the connection they do is not so important.

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[quote]Edevus wrote:
That feels a bit strange, but well, if the movie is good enough, the connection they do is not so important.[/quote]

It makes a lot of sense, really. Both are Ridley Scott movies (undisputed classics of the sci-fi genre, no less), androids = replicants and massive corporations rule both realities.
It would make the purists weep into their popcorn, though.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
That feels a bit strange, but well, if the movie is good enough, the connection they do is not so important.[/quote]

It makes a lot of sense, really. Both are Ridley Scott movies (undisputed classics of the sci-fi genre, no less), androids = replicants and massive corporations rule both realities.
It would make the purists weep into their popcorn, though.[/quote]

Well, it can be a bit strange to link both movies all out of sudden.

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[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
That feels a bit strange, but well, if the movie is good enough, the connection they do is not so important.[/quote]

It makes a lot of sense, really. Both are Ridley Scott movies (undisputed classics of the sci-fi genre, no less), androids = replicants and massive corporations rule both realities.
It would make the purists weep into their popcorn, though.[/quote]

Well, it can be a bit strange to link both movies all out of sudden.[/quote]

It wouldn’t be very complicated to do (pretty easy in fact) and the effect would be quite subtle. The one thing we never really see in any Alien movie is Earth…they just have to make the Earth of Blade Runner the Earth of the Alien movies…

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:
Only if this guy is T-5000 I will pay to see this guy as a Teminator.

DAMN! I’ve never seen that show, but if any of it is like that amazing scene, I gotta see more!

Edit to add: That scene alone cold be a short film. It suggests SO much… that we walk near death - sometimes crossing its path - all the time.
Creepy and sobering.

That whole scene was a great piece of art.

Sorry the hijack.
[/quote]

It’s cool no Hijack.

And yes the scene was a intro to one of the four horseman ( you guess which one he was) HA! It was a stand alone intro and when I found out where death was going it made me love the scene even more.
[/quote]

I like this scene:

Started to watch the show because of it.
[/quote]

Great Stuff!

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
^fanboys do not a good movie make.

That ending would have been really interesting.[/quote]

Very true. I guess they were setting it up with Marcus being a rogue terminator. If they’d have followed through with the original ending, it would have explained how John Connor was able to turn turn the tide: he was one of them.

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^It also would have explained why heart surgery can work in the middle of the desert. They fucked up by not sticking to the guns on that one. That would have probably been enough of a change to cement that movie as just as significant as the second.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
^It also would have explained why heart surgery can work in the middle of the desert. They fucked up by not sticking to the guns on that one. That would have probably been enough of a change to cement that movie as just as significant as the second.[/quote]

That was my problem with this movie was the ending.

I know there is field military medical, however they are not doing a fucking heart transplant out in the fucking open. And the whole jacket thing irked the shit out of me also.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
^It also would have explained why heart surgery can work in the middle of the desert. They fucked up by not sticking to the guns on that one. That would have probably been enough of a change to cement that movie as just as significant as the second.[/quote]

That was my problem with this movie was the ending.

I know there is field military medical, however they are not doing a fucking heart transplant out in the fucking open. And the whole jacket thing irked the shit out of me also.[/quote]

What jacket thing ?

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[quote]DeltaOne wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
^It also would have explained why heart surgery can work in the middle of the desert. They fucked up by not sticking to the guns on that one. That would have probably been enough of a change to cement that movie as just as significant as the second.[/quote]

That was my problem with this movie was the ending.

I know there is field military medical, however they are not doing a fucking heart transplant out in the fucking open. And the whole jacket thing irked the shit out of me also.[/quote]

What jacket thing ?[/quote]

Where the jacket is passed to the teen kid version of Reese from Worthington.

Seemed out of place sentimental shit for this type of movie.

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Not wanting to be a nerd here, but the whole “heart surgery in the middle of the desert” situation can be “possible” if we extrapolate reality a bit.

If we assume Skynet built a whole new synthetic heart for Marcus ( people keep saying how strong his heart is through the movie ). This heart could have a collagen/fibrin scaffolding layered with fibroblasts and other cells like keratinocytes, permitting a sac-like structure or even pericardium to form over the heart, protecting it from infections and external contaminants. It even makes sense considering the inside of a Terminator’s exoskeleton might not be the most sterile environment or organ/friendly place, considering shit like oil and moving parts. It is safe to assume an organ like this could be transplanted without a problem.

Now, regarding John Connor. We can either assume it’s the future and they developed a way to make an open area sterile for surgery, or, they didn’t gave a fuck and went with it anyway, or, they pumped him full of antibiotics and carried on with surgery.

The only thing that I can’t come up with an explanation is how the fuck could Marcus get shot in the head and not have any damage done to his brain.

For more info, you guys should buy my book “Terminator Biology 101”

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[quote]DeltaOne wrote:
Not wanting to be a nerd here, but the whole “heart surgery in the middle of the desert” situation can be “possible” if we extrapolate reality a bit.

If we assume Skynet built a whole new synthetic heart for Marcus ( people keep saying how strong his heart is through the movie ). This heart could have a collagen/fibrin scaffolding layered with fibroblasts and other cells like keratinocytes, permitting a sac-like structure or even pericardium to form over the heart, protecting it from infections and external contaminants. It even makes sense considering the inside of a Terminator’s exoskeleton might not be the most sterile environment or organ/friendly place, considering shit like oil and moving parts. It is safe to assume an organ like this could be transplanted without a problem.

Now, regarding John Connor. We can either assume it’s the future and they developed a way to make an open area sterile for surgery, or, they didn’t gave a fuck and went with it anyway, or, they pumped him full of antibiotics and carried on with surgery.

The only thing that I can’t come up with an explanation is how the fuck could Marcus get shot in the head and not have any damage done to his brain.

For more info, you guys should buy my book “Terminator Biology 101”[/quote]

Lol dude after almost 20 years of medicine not going to suspend that much belief.

I try not to over-analyze medical mistakes in movies but that one is just to much.

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[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]Ratchet wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
I absolutely love the first one and really like the second one. I don’t want the saga ruined for me. It’s like with Aliens, for me it’s a trilogy.

[/quote]

Aliens as a trilogy? the 3rd was AWFUL!!! if they had done the original 3rd and had the aliens make it to earth i might have agreed, but the 3rd one that got made was horrible…[/quote]

I already wrote, in this same thread, why I think Alien 3 is good.

Alien prequel…hmm…colour me skeptic. Like with every single remake that is being done, starting with Die Hard 4.0, Indiana Jones IV, etc.
I mean, Indiana Jones…you had the plot of the video game (Fate of Atlantis) which is amazing and you have to go with something totally unbelievable as aliens? Come on! Give us Holy Grail and the Ark!
[/quote]

Right, because the Ark of the Covenant and Holy Grail are both totally real, LOL.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]DeltaOne wrote:
Not wanting to be a nerd here, but the whole “heart surgery in the middle of the desert” situation can be “possible” if we extrapolate reality a bit.

If we assume Skynet built a whole new synthetic heart for Marcus ( people keep saying how strong his heart is through the movie ). This heart could have a collagen/fibrin scaffolding layered with fibroblasts and other cells like keratinocytes, permitting a sac-like structure or even pericardium to form over the heart, protecting it from infections and external contaminants. It even makes sense considering the inside of a Terminator’s exoskeleton might not be the most sterile environment or organ/friendly place, considering shit like oil and moving parts. It is safe to assume an organ like this could be transplanted without a problem.

Now, regarding John Connor. We can either assume it’s the future and they developed a way to make an open area sterile for surgery, or, they didn’t gave a fuck and went with it anyway, or, they pumped him full of antibiotics and carried on with surgery.

The only thing that I can’t come up with an explanation is how the fuck could Marcus get shot in the head and not have any damage done to his brain.

For more info, you guys should buy my book “Terminator Biology 101”[/quote]

Lol dude after almost 20 years of medicine not going to suspend that much belief.

I try not to over-analyze medical mistakes in movies but that one is just to much. [/quote]

I just have a lot of free time with medical books and a lot of imagination, I don’t actually believe any of the stuff I said :slight_smile:

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[quote]DeltaOne wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]DeltaOne wrote:
Not wanting to be a nerd here, but the whole “heart surgery in the middle of the desert” situation can be “possible” if we extrapolate reality a bit.

If we assume Skynet built a whole new synthetic heart for Marcus ( people keep saying how strong his heart is through the movie ). This heart could have a collagen/fibrin scaffolding layered with fibroblasts and other cells like keratinocytes, permitting a sac-like structure or even pericardium to form over the heart, protecting it from infections and external contaminants. It even makes sense considering the inside of a Terminator’s exoskeleton might not be the most sterile environment or organ/friendly place, considering shit like oil and moving parts. It is safe to assume an organ like this could be transplanted without a problem.

Now, regarding John Connor. We can either assume it’s the future and they developed a way to make an open area sterile for surgery, or, they didn’t gave a fuck and went with it anyway, or, they pumped him full of antibiotics and carried on with surgery.

The only thing that I can’t come up with an explanation is how the fuck could Marcus get shot in the head and not have any damage done to his brain.

For more info, you guys should buy my book “Terminator Biology 101”[/quote]

Lol dude after almost 20 years of medicine not going to suspend that much belief.

I try not to over-analyze medical mistakes in movies but that one is just to much. [/quote]

I just have a lot of free time with medical books and a lot of imagination, I don’t actually believe any of the stuff I said :slight_smile:
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I know in one of those moods today, I am LUL killer. Work has been frustrating.

Carry on. I think next maybe a kidney transplant under the sea.