I always thought Arnold had the perfect physique. Everything well proportioned. He actually looks like a real man instead of like a freak.
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
His legs were a weak point, I guess, but looking at these pictures, he’s more or less in proportion, peiod.[/quote]
Like somebody already said though, massive legs weren’t judged for back then. Also he did have some pretty respectable powerlifting numbers if I remember right.
How bout a reality check for the haters or those with bad genetics or genetics that will leave you no where close to a fantastic build such as Arnolds?
Arnold’s legs are not oversized for a reason …they’re not supposed to be when working on the ideal physique of symmetry & proportion. The sad thing is the massive druged out BB’ers of today still are having a hard time matching his ridiculous chest and HUGE guns. I can’t see a pair of guns or chest that is even close to Arnold’s yet …and that includes all the monsters. He’s still on top and he was from the 70’s.
The reason ARNOLD has a bigger fan base than every other BB’er put together is this …HE CREATED THE MOST PERFECTLY DEVELOPED PHYSIQUE …there isn’t even anyone who comes close. His ratios and measurements are just hard to match.
The guy that builds a 22 inch arm just doesn’t have the mass in the bicep to get ARNOLD’s look, his will be mostly tricep when he drugs himself up to get 22 inches. ARNOLD’s biceps were HUGE, his arms were 22 inches, but I swear they were almost half BICEP. The chest he had was still better than anyone of the massive steroid monsters of today.
Twenty inch calves arn’t LEG problems. If Arnold wanted to throw off his streamlined look with buldging biceps and a huge V taper, then he would have. He would have thrown his legs out of proportion, lost his tall look, lost his small waist and broad shoulders look, lost what every other man stares at in awe …lost what most of wish we could create.
Bottom line …ARNOLD just looks better than everyone else. LB for LB …there isn’t anyone even remotely close to looking that good. He looks good from any angle.
Give him bigger thighs, or forearms, or traps or whatever and it tthrows his entire perfectly balanced physique off.
It doesn’t get to look much better than this fellas. All you could do is create the same proportions and symmetry at lighter or heavier weights.
Genetics, superior attitude, hard work, some probably crappy 70’s steroids(joke today, todays roids are super roids) …and VISION. He created what he saw in his mind …and that was the best damn body you’ve ever seen.
The only one of the monster steroid takers I’ve seen come close is Flex Wheeler …he seems to be the only one of the monsters who wanted to get massive and still maintain a symmentrical look …it seems guys with bad genes just go for bulk, bad excuse for symmetry. I’d rather have an 18 inch arm that looked awesome than a 24 inch arm that just looks like shit.
Final points* How many people do you think saw ARNOLD’s height /weight/ & build and symmetry …then said to themselves “he looks gross” or “he doesn’t look good with his muscles”. ARNOLD built muscles that LOOK GOOD! It amazes me that people still can’t figure this out.
There are guys with more mass & outweigh him by 50 lbs(and they’re even shorter than him) …and not one of them still has figured out how to get more muscularity than ARNOLD. ARNOLD takes the cake. There isn’t even a close second.
You all can pick your favorite BB’er and you really have a guy that’s competing for 2nd. The majority of people see ARNOLD …then they see everyone else. He had it all. Even his face and personality were just more reasons this guy picked himself to be the greatest of all time, then made his belief come true. Well guess what …HE IS! He’s not perfect, but he’s the most perfect specimen that we’ve seen yet.
merlin
[quote]Brant_Drake wrote:
And another.
There are a lot more here.
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Cool site. Thanks. Love the avatar. I have Marv as screensaver and the action figures as “atmosphere” in my office.
Here’s a liitle taste for all. See why men worship him for his size and women worship him for his sexy symmetry.
Let me tell you one thing fellas, when a women looks at your body …inately they look at PROPORTION(even if one ear is bigger than the other, or arms too big for your body, or legs too small or too big for your body). You can have the biggest arms in the world, if she thinks you’re out of balance of oversized …well, then she biologically don’t think you’re the best around for mating purposes.
Here check out some REAL proportion…
merlin
Arms: 22 inches
Chest: 57 inches
Waist: 34 inches
Thighs: 28.5 inches
Calves: 20 inches
So someone with a 31" waist would need a 51.9" chest to match Arnold’s proportions.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
detazathoth wrote:
His legs were a weak point, I guess, but looking at these pictures, he’s more or less in proportion, peiod.
Like somebody already said though, massive legs weren’t judged for back then. Also he did have some pretty respectable powerlifting numbers if I remember right.[/quote]
ya you’re right 700 somethin pund deadlift, over 500 pound bench, made squats w/ 500 pounds for reps look easy. arnold held his own
[quote]merlin wrote:
The reason ARNOLD has a bigger fan base than every other BB’er put together is this …HE CREATED THE MOST PERFECTLY DEVELOPED PHYSIQUE …there isn’t even anyone who comes close. His ratios and measurements are just hard to match. [/quote]
Arnold was, without question, one of the all-time greats, but there were guys who were right up there with him. Some of the photos of Surge Nubret are awe-inspiring, and Zane is often touted as the greatest all-around physique ever.
The reason we remember Arnold’s physique, and not so much Nubret or Zane or Franco Columbu or any of the other guys that were playing the game back then is that Arnold had - and has - the personality, charisma, and intelligence to market the hell out of himself and capitalize on the body he had created. It’s the same skill that allowed him to become Governor of California.
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Final points* How many people do you think saw ARNOLD’s height /weight/ & build and symmetry …then said to themselves “he looks gross” or “he doesn’t look good with his muscles”. ARNOLD built muscles that LOOK GOOD! It amazes me that people still can’t figure this out.
There are guys with more mass & outweigh him by 50 lbs(and they’re even shorter than him) …and not one of them still has figured out how to get more muscularity than ARNOLD. ARNOLD takes the cake. There isn’t even a close second.
You all can pick your favorite BB’er and you really have a guy that’s competing for 2nd. The majority of people see ARNOLD …then they see everyone else. He had it all. Even his face and personality were just more reasons this guy picked himself to be the greatest of all time, then made his belief come true. Well guess what …HE IS! He’s not perfect, but he’s the most perfect specimen that we’ve seen yet.
merlin[/quote]
i was talking about ronnie when i said his legs look gross. arnold is my idle period.
I think of Arnold of being one in a trinity of the greatest bodybuilders, the other two being Sergio Oliva and Frank Zane.
Any one of those three represents the ideal physique for a man.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
detazathoth wrote:
His legs were a weak point, I guess, but looking at these pictures, he’s more or less in proportion, peiod.
Like somebody already said though, massive legs weren’t judged for back then. Also he did have some pretty respectable powerlifting numbers if I remember right.[/quote]
Yes, but I said I guess because they look pretty fantastic to me, it’s just some people think bulging quads is necessary to have an amazing physique
Arnold’s physique was pretty much as perfect as it could be. A lot of people say his legs were too small, but the guy squatted 500 pounds for reps. His legs look better than any classical statue ever made. Some say his triceps could have been thicker, but when you’re benching 400 pounds for reps your triceps are probably in proportion.
If I could flip a switch and look like anyone else, I’d rather have the look of someone shorter and thicker like Franco Colombo or Johnnie Jackson. Both bodies absurdly strong, well developed, and proportional.
But Arnold has the best physique for a tall man. And maybe that’s debatable whether he at his prime was better than Louie at his prime. I’d go with Arnold for best physique for a tall person.
OMG! Arnold’s biceps are huger than I thought! You guys are right, he has the perfect hero figure. Legs like Ronnie’s aren’t neccessary but to me they give a freakish look. I admire them and nobody can say there’s many guys that have legs that can match his!
He’s the Arnold when it comes to leg measurements that all I can say and nobody can say there’s even many guys that’s his size! So I think Ronnie’s made history, not as the bodybuilding idol, but as for mass. Can’t deny that!
Could someone possibly tell me who this BEAST IS!?
[quote]sed26 wrote:
Could someone possibly tell me who this BEAST IS!?
mustafa mohammad
[quote]LUEshi wrote:
I think of Arnold of being one in a trinity of the greatest bodybuilders, the other two being Sergio Oliva and Frank Zane.
Any one of those three represents the ideal physique for a man.[/quote]
dito
“bigger is not better, better is better.”
-Frank Zane
To me it’s different eras. I like both to be honest. The old time studs were awesome and guys like Coleman are too for different reasons. Ronnie Coleman in his best shape is flat down frightening, like Sci/Fi huge. I like it.
[quote]Brant_Drake wrote:
Ghost22 wrote:
I’m fairly sure those size comparisons are a little bit off with the Arnold/Coleman comparisons.
Ronnie’s not that much shorter than Arnold when he’s barefooted.
And he’s much more massive come competition time.
Ronnie is 5’11" and 247 pounds in the first pic shot while Arnold is 6’1" and 225 pounds.[/quote]
Guess that picture of Ronnie is older than I thought, my bad.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
sed26 wrote:
Could someone possibly tell me who this BEAST IS!?
mustafa mohammad[/quote]
That dude has got some really bizarre looking quads.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
sed26 wrote:
Could someone possibly tell me who this BEAST IS!?
mustafa mohammad
That dude has got some really bizarre looking quads.[/quote]
ya he does