Arms Won't Grow (Not Your Average Case)

it seems these days that every 17 year old guy on the internet have crazy numbers. Just yesterday I saw another 17 years old claiming to have 400/600/600. Post those pics Mr.Potential. If you are not a troll then I am happy for you. I would understand if you didnt post pics as I dont own a cellphone, a camera or a webcam myself. I don’t own a tv and a car too. Yes I am that special

For the advice if your curl is 1258 for a 3158 bench that seems unbalanced. I am far from being a curl whore and I am curling that for a much weaker bench. Also your pulling seems to be unbalanced with your pushing (bb row 225*8). What is your deadlift?

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
TheGatekeeper wrote:

  1. Regardless of what you think I am and always will be bigger and have more potential then you do at any age, I have what you never will and all your internet comments wont change that :).

Nevermind, you’re not a troll. You really sound like you’re 17, lol

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lol

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
TheGatekeeper wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
pics or it didn’t happen.

I’m sorry, who the hell doesn’t have a digi cam, web cam or camera on their phone these days?

Granted, you are 17, but I’ve seen 10 yr olds with camera phones.

I call troll until pics are posted.

like said 5’8 245 is thick, even at 20% BF that’s darn muscular.

  1. because i dont take pics of myself in a mirror doesnt mean im a troll
  2. Regardless of what you think I am and always will be bigger and have more potential then you do at any age, I have what you never will and all your internet comments wont change that :).

haha

Yeah, he’s clever.

If he doesn’t like to take pics of himself in a mirror perhaps he can take his shirt off and go ask his mom to take a pic.
Cause I still say that would clear this thread right up

I understand that those stats are hard to beleive. But you’ve been here long enough to be able to tell who’s a troll and who’s not based on the rhetoric. I personally don’t give a shit what another man looks like. And you have no pictures yourself. So maybe it’s time to do a little less posting because frankly, you just sound jealous. [/quote]

Well Jehova has some pics floating around, but who cares.

You stop caring about this shit after a while, if you can great, if not youre an asshole, but I’m not losing any sleep over some words on the Internet.

[quote]jasmincar wrote:
it seems these days that every 17 year old guy on the internet have crazy numbers. Just yesterday I saw another 17 years old claiming to have 400/600/600. Post those pics Mr.Potential. If you are not a troll then I am happy for you. I would understand if you didnt post pics as I dont own a cellphone, a camera or a webcam myself. I don’t own a tv and a car too. Yes I am that special

For the advice if your curl is 1258 for a 3158 bench that seems unbalanced. I am far from being a curl whore and I am curling that for a much weaker bench. Also your pulling seems to be unbalanced with your pushing (bb row 225*8). What is your deadlift?[/quote]

Mine stopped at 495 for 1, yes its unproportioned to my squat and everything else. I injured my lower back in freshman football and have a herniated disk. I do not do them anymore im doing hyper extensions and stretches to try and build a better core to support it. My chest responds the best of all my muscles to training, I barely have to work it in comparision, yet my chest is huge. I was somewhat of a bench press junkie as a younger lifter when i was 13-14 so that may be why my push is so much better then my pull.

Well I can do the 315 x 8 on bench and cannot hit close to 225 x 8 on standing ohp I’d be lucky for 3 reps. But like I said it’s doesn’t matter to me.

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
WestCoast7 wrote:
Somehow I find it hard to believe that you are benching 315 and pressing 225 and don’t have decent sized arms since your triceps are extremely involved in these heavy motions.

This is a stupid post. Bench pressing 315 is no huge feat (it is impressive for a 17 yr old good job OP) and certainly not for a 245lb person. [/quote]

The claim wasn’t a 315 lb 1RM, but 315 lb for 8 reps.

Which ordinarily would mean a 425 lb or better, maybe as much as 475 lb, 1RM. But whatever the 1RM, 315 for 8 is very different than having that for a 1RM.

And I would agree that no one who can bench that raw has non-decent-looking triceps that “won’t grow.”

(I am assuming the 315 for 8 claim is not in a bench shirt.)

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
TheGatekeeper wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
WestCoast7 wrote:
Somehow I find it hard to believe that you are benching 315 and pressing 225 and don’t have decent sized arms since your triceps are extremely involved in these heavy motions.

If your not trolling, I would suggest cutting out your arms day, because you are probably over working them and not allowing enough time for recovery and growth. Personally I do not include an arms day in my regiment because I feel that my bis/tris get good enough work on my back and chest days.

If your 5’8" 245 lbs at age 17 you should be getting your pro card soon with stats like that, or you should be going back to your troll cave.

You got pics?

This is a stupid post. Bench pressing 315 is no huge feat (it is impressive for a 17 yr old good job OP) and certainly not for a 245lb person. Some people actually have arms that don’t grow from compound movements, crazy huh? So instead of asking how big the OPs arms are currently along with a chest measurement for comparison you call troll. You don’t even know the bodyfat percentage and you’re talking about ‘pro cards’. Come on man.

Cutting out the arms day for someone whos arms arent growing is the single worst piece of advice you can possibly give. His arms aren’t being over trained. That’s rediculous. Someone who trains their back properly should get nothing more than a small pump in their biceps, definitely not enough stimulation to build 19" arms. Same goes for chest and triceps.

Im not talking about Pro card if your referring to me, and my competition weight is 200 pounds.

No that was a response to the quoted post.

And if you aren’t getting a pump you aren’t hitting the muscle and that’s the problem.

You need to really focus on the contraction at the top of the lift. While you are sitting in you chair flex your bicep as hard as possible. Hold it for a few seconds or whatever. If you do that enough times you’ll get better at activating those muscles. When you go to the gym do the same thing but with a dumbell in your hand. Do not pick up the dumbell you think you can handle. Start with the 30lb. I just picked an arbitrary weight that you should be able to handle under complete control. Do standing alternating curls with emphasis on the contraction. Use full range of motion. Do 12-15 reps and increase the weight for the next set if you think you can. Squeeze the handle as hard as possible throughout the movement. Do this until you get a good pump. As many sets as it takes. If your grip starts failing and they start to resemble hammer curls than drop the weight. Keep the form down until you can feel the muscle working.

Once you establish a proper mind muscle connection than go back to your normal arm routine. Do this 2-3 times a week if you need to, space the days obviously.

The same goes for triceps. You may want to preexhaust the muscle by doing isolation movements first and then move to close grip pressing. [/quote]

What BONEZ said is very important. It’s the only way I got mine to start peaking and growing again after I had come to a plateau. Mind muscle connection is really important, with any exercise for that matter. If you’re just doing heavy weight, doing the motions but not feeling the muscle tendons strain through the movement then there is no point in performing it unless you are doing it to impress other people watching you workout which is gay because who gives a fuck what you can lift when it comes to bodybuilding it’s all about muscle mass and size, not about benching 500lbs.

[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
WestCoast7 wrote:
Somehow I find it hard to believe that you are benching 315 and pressing 225 and don’t have decent sized arms since your triceps are extremely involved in these heavy motions.

This is a stupid post. Bench pressing 315 is no huge feat (it is impressive for a 17 yr old good job OP) and certainly not for a 245lb person.

The claim wasn’t a 315 lb 1RM, but 315 lb for 8 reps.

Which ordinarily would mean a 425 lb or better, maybe as much as 475 lb, 1RM.

And I would agree that no one who can bench that raw has non-decent-looking triceps that “won’t grow.”

(I am assuming the 315 for 8 claim is not in a bench shirt.)

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Im 315 for 8 raw, my max is 395x 1 raw, Never owned or used any special shirts or braces. I never said my arms werent “decent” i said they were unproportional, Im sure on someone else they would look huge, and on other people they would look much smaller.

[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
WestCoast7 wrote:
Somehow I find it hard to believe that you are benching 315 and pressing 225 and don’t have decent sized arms since your triceps are extremely involved in these heavy motions.

This is a stupid post. Bench pressing 315 is no huge feat (it is impressive for a 17 yr old good job OP) and certainly not for a 245lb person.

The claim wasn’t a 315 lb 1RM, but 315 lb for 8 reps.

Which ordinarily would mean a 425 lb or better, maybe as much as 475 lb, 1RM.

And I would agree that no one who can bench that raw has non-decent-looking triceps that “won’t grow.”

(I am assuming the 315 for 8 claim is not in a bench shirt.)

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Fair enough. But numbers don’t really matter much if the person doesn’t know how to target the muscles he wants to. That is the actual point of this thread. He’s already said that he doesn’t get a pump in his triceps and that his chest is proportionally big. Odds are that someone with a huge bench press is going to have big triceps. But maybe they’re not up to par. That was what my advice was geared to. Bringing the arms up to par with everything else.

hey guys i’m here!

[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
WestCoast7 wrote:
Somehow I find it hard to believe that you are benching 315 and pressing 225 and don’t have decent sized arms since your triceps are extremely involved in these heavy motions.

This is a stupid post. Bench pressing 315 is no huge feat (it is impressive for a 17 yr old good job OP) and certainly not for a 245lb person.

The claim wasn’t a 315 lb 1RM, but 315 lb for 8 reps.

Which ordinarily would mean a 425 lb or better, maybe as much as 475 lb, 1RM.

And I would agree that no one who can bench that raw has non-decent-looking triceps that “won’t grow.”

(I am assuming the 315 for 8 claim is not in a bench shirt.)

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I think you’re a little off bill but I agree with your sentiment, 315 x 8 is closer to a 400 pound bench rather a 425-475. I never saw anyone do that in high school however, yet there are some freaks, but if I was a freak I’d be proud to show everyone.

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
WestCoast7 wrote:
Somehow I find it hard to believe that you are benching 315 and pressing 225 and don’t have decent sized arms since your triceps are extremely involved in these heavy motions.

This is a stupid post. Bench pressing 315 is no huge feat (it is impressive for a 17 yr old good job OP) and certainly not for a 245lb person.

The claim wasn’t a 315 lb 1RM, but 315 lb for 8 reps.

Which ordinarily would mean a 425 lb or better, maybe as much as 475 lb, 1RM.

And I would agree that no one who can bench that raw has non-decent-looking triceps that “won’t grow.”

(I am assuming the 315 for 8 claim is not in a bench shirt.)

Fair enough. But numbers don’t really matter much if the person doesn’t know how to target the muscles he wants to. That is the actual point of this thread. He’s already said that he doesn’t get a pump in his triceps and that his chest is proportionally big. Odds are that someone with a huge bench press is going to have big triceps. But maybe their not up to par. That was what my advice was geared to. Bringing the arms up to par with everything else. [/quote]

^ thankyou for making that clear. Do you think that I should add in programs that specifically promote pumps, such as shorter resting, continuous high reps such as 12 reps, 10 reps, 8 reps. With no break between those sets on say one excercise?

[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
hey guys i’m here![/quote]

tits or GTFO

what in the world were you thinking you lunatic

as others mentioned create a strong mind muscle connection, make a weak point a strong point by focusing on it. Train it more frequently for now maybe, you may not grow w/ increased training but it will serve your CNS and M-M connect well. After you’ve over trained a bit back off to once a week or once every 8-10 days and you should grow.

I like one arm preachers w/ BD’s, alt standing DB curls or BB curls, pinwheel curls + a burnout/flushing finish the pump exercise at the end.

For tri’s i like to warm up the elbow w/ light overhead tri ext. single arm DB, then switch to heavy double arm overhead tri ext, heavy pressdowns, CGBP, reverse pressdowns, and some rope work to burn it out.

Arms as it’s own day has worked for me, keep all the blood together ideology.

in my old pic my arms look smaller, the newer pic is better although in the pic, not much of a peak due to the angle of my hand during photo. my arms are one of my better parts…6.3in wrist w/ 17+in arm. others on here are much further along than me, but i thought i’d add what had worked thus far for me.

preacher single arm helped the most i believe, pinwheels have widened my overall arm as well. i’m double your age…wish i started at 17!!!

I thought we were discussing how to get your arms to grow, not all this stats bullshit.

WHO GIVES A FUCK.

Stay on track or I don’t care whatever.

[quote]TheGatekeeper wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
WestCoast7 wrote:
Somehow I find it hard to believe that you are benching 315 and pressing 225 and don’t have decent sized arms since your triceps are extremely involved in these heavy motions.

This is a stupid post. Bench pressing 315 is no huge feat (it is impressive for a 17 yr old good job OP) and certainly not for a 245lb person.

The claim wasn’t a 315 lb 1RM, but 315 lb for 8 reps.

Which ordinarily would mean a 425 lb or better, maybe as much as 475 lb, 1RM.

And I would agree that no one who can bench that raw has non-decent-looking triceps that “won’t grow.”

(I am assuming the 315 for 8 claim is not in a bench shirt.)

Fair enough. But numbers don’t really matter much if the person doesn’t know how to target the muscles he wants to. That is the actual point of this thread. He’s already said that he doesn’t get a pump in his triceps and that his chest is proportionally big. Odds are that someone with a huge bench press is going to have big triceps. But maybe their not up to par. That was what my advice was geared to. Bringing the arms up to par with everything else.

^ thankyou for making that clear. Do you think that I should add in programs that specifically promote pumps, such as shorter resting, continuous high reps such as 12 reps, 10 reps, 8 reps. With no break between those sets on say one excercise?[/quote]

If you do that, do it just until you establish a solid mind muscle connection. If doing high rep stuff with short rest help you do that then go for it. Nothing beats heavy lifting in the 6-12 rep range though with adequate rest. Do whatever you need to do to feel your biceps working. When you do move back to a normal routine.

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
WestCoast7 wrote:
Somehow I find it hard to believe that you are benching 315 and pressing 225 and don’t have decent sized arms since your triceps are extremely involved in these heavy motions.

If your not trolling, I would suggest cutting out your arms day, because you are probably over working them and not allowing enough time for recovery and growth. Personally I do not include an arms day in my regiment because I feel that my bis/tris get good enough work on my back and chest days.

If your 5’8" 245 lbs at age 17 you should be getting your pro card soon with stats like that, or you should be going back to your troll cave.

You got pics?

This is a stupid post. Bench pressing 315 is no huge feat (it is impressive for a 17 yr old good job OP) and certainly not for a 245lb person. Some people actually have arms that don’t grow from compound movements, crazy huh? So instead of asking how big the OPs arms are currently along with a chest measurement for comparison you call troll. You don’t even know the bodyfat percentage and you’re talking about ‘pro cards’. Come on man.

Cutting out the arms day for someone whos arms arent growing is the single worst piece of advice you can possibly give. His arms aren’t being over trained. That’s rediculous. Someone who trains their back properly should get nothing more than a small pump in their biceps, definitely not enough stimulation to build 19" arms. Same goes for chest and triceps.

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How do you say benching 315 is no huge feat and then say that is impressive? That is a complete contradiction. Also, how do you know he’s not over training? It was a simple suggestion for someone who is stuck, not a diagnosis, and there is no way that you can discredit that idea.

Saying that you cannot get a great arm workout through chest and back workouts is also false. Biceps and triceps are major movers in most compound exercises that are used to build your chest and your back, and you can definitely get more than just a pump, even with proper form.

I would agree though with your comment that maybe his arms just aren’t growing to match, as the OP also mentioned.

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
WestCoast7 wrote:
Somehow I find it hard to believe that you are benching 315 and pressing 225 and don’t have decent sized arms since your triceps are extremely involved in these heavy motions.

This is a stupid post. Bench pressing 315 is no huge feat (it is impressive for a 17 yr old good job OP) and certainly not for a 245lb person.

The claim wasn’t a 315 lb 1RM, but 315 lb for 8 reps.

Which ordinarily would mean a 425 lb or better, maybe as much as 475 lb, 1RM.

And I would agree that no one who can bench that raw has non-decent-looking triceps that “won’t grow.”

(I am assuming the 315 for 8 claim is not in a bench shirt.)

I think you’re a little off bill but I agree with your sentiment, 315 x 8 is closer to a 400 pound bench rather a 425-475. I never saw anyone do that in high school however, yet there are some freaks, but if I was a freak I’d be proud to show everyone. [/quote]

^understand where your coming from, honestly im not a show off. The reason i like the training portion of bodybuilding is its you vs yourself. And pose downs/ competitions are with people all for the same passion as you. In many other competition/ sports especially in Highschool people do not want to be there, just want a varsity letter, to show off, etc.

An old friend of mine always told me, the guys who wear tight shirts have to prove they have a built, people who make shirts tight are truely built.

[quote]cyruseven75 wrote:
as others mentioned create a strong mind muscle connection, make a weak point a strong point by focusing on it. Train it more frequently for now maybe, you may not grow w/ increased training but it will serve your CNS and M-M connect well. After you’ve over trained a bit back off to once a week or once every 8-10 days and you should grow.

I like one arm preachers w/ BD’s, alt standing DB curls or BB curls, pinwheel curls + a burnout/flushing finish the pump exercise at the end.

For tri’s i like to warm up the elbow w/ light overhead tri ext. single arm DB, then switch to heavy double arm overhead tri ext, heavy pressdowns, CGBP, reverse pressdowns, and some rope work to burn it out.

Arms as it’s own day has worked for me, keep all the blood together ideology.

in my old pic my arms look smaller, the newer pic is better although in the pic, not much of a peak due to the angle of my hand during photo. my arms are one of my better parts…6.3in wrist w/ 17+in arm. others on here are much further along than me, but i thought i’d add what had worked thus far for me.

preacher single arm helped the most i believe, pinwheels have widened my overall arm as well. i’m double your age…wish i started at 17!!![/quote]

thankyou very much ^ good luck to you too nice arm size btw.

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